[sudo-discuss] [HELP] Oak Tech teacher requests space 6hrs/1x/month **starting Sunday**

[Vicky Knox]

Marc's response is justified, though I reject the language of the two
opening questions.

My conversation over the phone with Vivienne lead me to believe that she
was participating in a competition organized by her school and I didn't
carefully scan the email explanation that she sent me afterward to send to
the list. I am really down about my oversight and apologize for it.

I did learn the details of the competition's funding when she and a
colleague came to see the space and pick up the key the night before their
practice, and at that point I processed the explanation of the sponsorship
much differently than Marc. While she is not happy about the sponsor,
Vivienne's justification of pursuing this event was that this was a great
opportunity for her students to get a hold of resources and a learning
environment they would otherwise not have had. She wanted to be able to do
this event at a hackerspace because her ultimate goal was to use this
competition as a bridge to connect to a critical, hacker community (for
what this bridge is worth, given the obvious discrepancy). I felt at once
uneasy and understanding. I respect the sentiment that she expressed that
she needed to take the opportunity that was there, just as I am not quick
to jump to judgment of many of my bright and fascinating friends back home
who were in a position in which they (felt that they?) needed to join the
military in order to realistically afford higher education. That said, I
stand with Marc in my rejection of the military industrial complex (or
whatever you would like to call it), but I do not know the answer to more
nuanced questions of access to aspirational education within a race-class
divided society. I invite your conversation.

If Marc or anyone else would like to bring up this topic at the general
meeting, I could not make it this Wednesday but am available the following.

Vicky
On Oct 13, 2013 7:31 PM, "Marc Juul" <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you all have any recommendations on how to expedite this? What is the
>> current status of the large room and using it for  events?
>>
>> For background, this teacher origianally contacted info at sudoroom but
>> never got a response, and called the SR number today, slightly frantic. I
>> think it would be really awesome if we were able to help her out. This
>> event seems quite an incredible opportunity for young people.
>>
>
> What? What have you been smoking?
>
> The Air Force Association's CyberPatriot? Sponsored by Northrop Grumman?!Why are people assuming that this is something sudo room wants to support
> or in any way encourage?
>
> This sounds terrible. I am going to take this up at this Wednesdays sudo
> room meeting. I am completely against anything like this happening in or
> near sudo room in any way shape or form. I do not believe I am alone in
> feeling like this. I am both surprised and very disappointed that a
> critical and sceptical approach was not taken in dealing with something
> like this on behalf of sudo room.
>
> --
> Marc
>
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