[sudo-discuss] hacker schools discussion

[David Rorex]

Some of the "hacker schools" are awesome, 99% of the students love them,
and some of them are basically scams. But they are all very expensive (eg
HackBright gets nearly universal acclaim, but it's $15,000 for an 8 week
class), and it's hard to tell which one is awesome and which one is a scam
just by looking at their websites. So some sort of oversight / regulation
is needed, but I'm not sure what the best way is. There's plenty of other
vocational schools (all those ones that promise to get you a high paying
job as a dental assistant or pharmacy technician or whatever) that are
mostly scams and yet are unaffected by the current regulatory framework in
place.


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> Here's a good Fast Company article, they highlight the people who paid the
> money but didn't find jobs:
>
>
> http://www.fastcompany.com/3023456/become-an-ios-developer-in-8-weeks-the-truth-about-hack-schools
>
>
>    - One example was pretty weird... there was a pregnant woman who
>    enered dev bootcamp, and she couldn't compete with her 12 hours study days
>    against others who were studying 16 hours a day. -- wow! what were they
>    thinking? I think a hacker bootcamp would be a terrible idea for a pregnant
>    woman / new parent.
>
>
>
>    - One hacker school is in the Midwest, where there aren't that many
>    mobile developer jobs and they were training people to be iOS Developers.
>    Kind of weird.
>
>
> I love hacker schools, but they have to be extremely selective if they
> advertise to people that graduating students are going to get $70K a year
> jobs after only 10-15 weeks of study. The advertising of salaries is what
> bothers me a lot...
>
> As we've been discussing, I see totally shady for-profit institutions
> copying the hacker idea and fleecing unqualified students in the future. I
> don't want the good hacker schools to get shut down :(
>
>
> =============================
>
> Romy Ilano
> romy at snowyla.com
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>>  industrialization of education - obscuring the intrinsic value of
>> knowledge and showing the way forward so that the technicians will know
>> which direction to pull the carts
>> ==
>>
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