[sudo-discuss] Redirect of the "Gentrification" Thread into a more encompassing awareness.

[Sonja Trauss]

Yeah some of the non rent downsides of gentrification are worth enumerating
because they are way more in our control. Here is the list I have
experienced:

Reduced neighborhood tolerance for semi-legitamate venues that have
concerts and parties
Increased enforcement of BS code violations like, "no working on your car
in the street"

Now you go, those are the only 2 I can think of.

On Tuesday, May 13, 2014, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca at gmail.com> wrote:

> With all respect, Oren, limiting a discussion of gentrification to rent
> levels strikes me as a bit reductionist.  It a gnarly, complex problem,
> seems to me, and rather the antithesis of taking the "...thread to a more
> encompassing awareness..."  I.e., seems less encompassing, and considerably
> so.
>
> Whether or not it's appropriate for this list I'll leave for others to
> decide, but I do have $0.02 to contribute on that point: I've seen lots of
> other discussions over the past 2 years on this that were at least as
> inappropriate, if not more so.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marina.kukso at gmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> is this discussion appropriate to this list?
>>
>>
>> would be a great discussion for
>> http://oaklandwiki.org/What_should_we_do_about_gentrification%3F and/or
>> http://oaklandwiki.org/gentrification
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hol at gaskill.com');>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> i think talking about stemming price inflation altogether inevitably
>>> redirects to monetary policy
>>>
>>> couldn't find consistent info on "anti-fnord".  why don't you fill us in?
>>>
>>> on May 13, 2014, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sonja.trauss at gmail.com');>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >Make sure Oakland builds fast enough to absorb new arrivals. >>On
>>> Tuesday, May 13, 2014, Oren Beck <orenbeck at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','orenbeck at gmail.com');>>
>>> wrote:>>There's a set of presumptions that can inherently defy our best
>>> efforts at redirection>even when we can offer concrete factual refutations.
>>> >>
>>> I unhesitatingly use the phrase "Breaking Set&Setting" as a most apt
>>> one,  Call it>an "Anti-Fnord! so to speak... Do look up the ancestry of the
>>> terms if they're not>old friends:)> >
>>> Summary- We've a set and setting  that demands inflation of rents as if
>>> it were desirable,>or even mandatory. the end result is inevitable yet NOT
>>> mandatory.  Can we discuss>strategies to fix the Rent Problem? >
>>> > >
>>> >>Oren Beck>>816.632.3695
>>>
>>>
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