[sudo-discuss] Redirect of the "Gentrification" Thread into a more encompassing awareness.

[Craig Rouskey]

Gentrification. It makes me think of that bench on Adeline that says "Do
something for Oakland or Leave."

To me, doing something for the community - i.e. using our privilege to
educate and grow community across class, race and other social lines - acts
as a counterbalance to the gross non-aware/hyper-consumerist gentrification
that we see disintegrating communities throughout the bay.

I could continue to ramble on (especially about people who tout "property
rights" then blame SF residents for their property-protective NIMBY
policies as a way to validate gentrification), but I won't. Not here.
Instead, I'll suggest that we all acknowledge that we live in a constantly
growing and changing place whose face changes simply by the amount of money
thrown at it...really, it's as bad as Liberace. We have these internal
conversations and the truth is, it's not us. We are not driving
gentrification. We are all doing what we have to do to stay in the bay
area. Some of us try to make the communities we exist in better, some of us
try to suck the life out of them.


That is all.

Craig

To quote Janis Joplin "It's all the same fucking day, man."




On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yeah some of the non rent downsides of gentrification are worth
> enumerating because they are way more in our control. Here is the list I
> have experienced:
>
> Reduced neighborhood tolerance for semi-legitamate venues that have
> concerts and parties
> Increased enforcement of BS code violations like, "no working on your car
> in the street"
>
> Now you go, those are the only 2 I can think of.
>
> On Tuesday, May 13, 2014, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> With all respect, Oren, limiting a discussion of gentrification to rent
>> levels strikes me as a bit reductionist.  It a gnarly, complex problem,
>> seems to me, and rather the antithesis of taking the "...thread to a more
>> encompassing awareness..."  I.e., seems less encompassing, and considerably
>> so.
>>
>> Whether or not it's appropriate for this list I'll leave for others to
>> decide, but I do have $0.02 to contribute on that point: I've seen lots of
>> other discussions over the past 2 years on this that were at least as
>> inappropriate, if not more so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> is this discussion appropriate to this list?
>>>
>>>
>>> would be a great discussion for
>>> http://oaklandwiki.org/What_should_we_do_about_gentrification%3F and/or
>>> http://oaklandwiki.org/gentrification
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i think talking about stemming price inflation altogether inevitably
>>>> redirects to monetary policy
>>>>
>>>> couldn't find consistent info on "anti-fnord".  why don't you fill us
>>>> in?
>>>>
>>>> on May 13, 2014, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >Make sure Oakland builds fast enough to absorb new arrivals. >>On
>>>> Tuesday, May 13, 2014, Oren Beck <orenbeck at gmail.com> wrote:>>There's
>>>> a set of presumptions that can inherently defy our best efforts at
>>>> redirection>even when we can offer concrete factual refutations. >>
>>>> I unhesitatingly use the phrase "Breaking Set&Setting" as a most apt
>>>> one,  Call it>an "Anti-Fnord! so to speak... Do look up the ancestry of the
>>>> terms if they're not>old friends:)> >
>>>> Summary- We've a set and setting  that demands inflation of rents as if
>>>> it were desirable,>or even mandatory. the end result is inevitable yet NOT
>>>> mandatory.  Can we discuss>strategies to fix the Rent Problem? >
>>>> > >
>>>> >>Oren Beck>>816.632.3695
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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