[sudo-discuss] Omni Commons Delegates for the Sudo Room

Ryan yandoryn at gmail.com
Fri May 15 18:18:32 PDT 2015


Also, there's a really obvious answer to this fear of cliques.

Show up to meetings.

All members have blocking power. Yay consensus.

If you're unhappy with a proposal that was passed, make a counter-proposal.
Nothing is set in stone. sudo's policies can change very quickly. We're not
waterfall; we're agile. It's better to deploy our changes regularly,
knowing we can further build on these features than make sure they're
perfect when the race starts.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Quorum takes 10 people. I really don't consider that a small group.
>
> I personally think that voting creates a tyranny of the majority which
> inherently oppresses minority groups. In a democracy, minorities have to
> hope for the benevolence of the majority to deign to stoop down low enough
> to recognize them as people.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I would be wary, sudo, of how few people it already takes to have quorum,
>> and if that changes...
>> A small clique of friends can be at a meeting, and make decisions for all
>> of sudo.
>> It's a broken system.
>>
>> Our leaders can either say
>> "there's the power, don't give it to anyone, let's split it consciously"
>>  or
>>  "where's the power? i don't see it"
>> the latter is falsity in my opinion, it deters you from taking any
>> the former is truth.
>>
>>
>> I think 1-vote-per-member; remotely solicited when live-vote isn't
>> possible, is a much sounder way of representing the opinions and needs of
>> many people.
>>
>> to my eyes, consensus seems to be closer to high school social dynamics
>> than a step in political evolution. i'm definitely disillusioned about
>> consensus after seeing this project.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:30 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My question is whose idea was this in the first place?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was this guy:
>>>>
>>>>   http://i.imgur.com/qmPKJHh.gif
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> marc/juul
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> <3 Rachel
>>
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