[sudo-discuss] RE ELLIOTT

[Adam Munich]

I'm with gabby on this one.

Eliot, we're here for you if shit's going down, but, people are all
different, have different opinions, and different ways of expressing those
opinions. Sometimes it's better to just let them be, even if they aren't on
your side.

Cheers,
-Adam

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On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Gabrielle Silverman <
gabbywingnut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Elliot, with all due respect, I feel strongly that you should step back
> from the role of acting as "enforcer" for the building. I wish that there
> was a better distinction between personal problems and community problems
> that require community intervention, and I wish, Elliot, that you would
> recognize that you have A LOT of personal problems with people everywhere
> you go and that the role of the collective is not to make sure that
> everyone wants to be your friend. I know that the purpose of this listserve
> is not to publicly shame eachother but I am sick of this affecting every
> project that you touch. Also I think using the language of "safety" in a
> situation like this (that is uncomfortable but not unsafe) is super-
> manipulative and will contribute towards people not taking serious words
> seriously anymore and its a real problem. Please find a way to share space
> and participate in community projects without appointing yourself as
> enforcer or making yourself a spokesperson for  groups that routinely
> disagree with you on your process and analysis. Please just be Elliot, and
> please find a way to deal. I am sorry if this hurts you or embarasses you.
> Know that I will have your back when it gets real. We can talk more in
> person if you like.
>
> Gabby
> On May 25, 2015 7:24 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you two *are absolutely unable* to work through this conflict on your
>> own, then please email mediation at omnicommons.org to request mediation.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
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>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > No this is a fabrication of the issue she left something rotten in the
>>> trash
>>>
>>> Maybe we should have a separate list for conflicts and mediation. Oh
>>> wait, the Omni already has one:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation
>>>
>>> Why are you even using sudo-discuss? None of these things even
>>> happened in Sudoroom, they happened elsewhere in the building.
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