[sudo-discuss] RE ELLIOTT

[WIld Cat]

Gabby. Someone being verbally abusive calling me an idiot and telling me to
shut up  (yelling at me with threatening posture) makes my feeling unsafe
legitimate. I am not an "enforcer" I just voice my concerns and ask for
help when someone is acting abusive. If you have problems with me please
voice them. I understand that I have some personal problems but I do my
best to be accountable and humble to my communities concerns. Feel free to
voice things that you think are problematic about me and I will do my best
to be accountable to oppressive behavior. I don't feels its oppressive to
talk to your community about people or behaviors you find to be
problematic. If you feel like that there is a better way to a address
concerns let me know what your alternatives are.

On Monday, May 25, 2015, Gabrielle Silverman <gabbywingnut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Elliot, with all due respect, I feel strongly that you should step back
> from the role of acting as "enforcer" for the building. I wish that there
> was a better distinction between personal problems and community problems
> that require community intervention, and I wish, Elliot, that you would
> recognize that you have A LOT of personal problems with people everywhere
> you go and that the role of the collective is not to make sure that
> everyone wants to be your friend. I know that the purpose of this listserve
> is not to publicly shame eachother but I am sick of this affecting every
> project that you touch. Also I think using the language of "safety" in a
> situation like this (that is uncomfortable but not unsafe) is super-
> manipulative and will contribute towards people not taking serious words
> seriously anymore and its a real problem. Please find a way to share space
> and participate in community projects without appointing yourself as
> enforcer or making yourself a spokesperson for  groups that routinely
> disagree with you on your process and analysis. Please just be Elliot, and
> please find a way to deal. I am sorry if this hurts you or embarasses you.
> Know that I will have your back when it gets real. We can talk more in
> person if you like.
>
> Gabby
> On May 25, 2015 7:24 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> If you two *are absolutely unable* to work through this conflict on your
>> own, then please email mediation at omnicommons.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mediation at omnicommons.org');> to request
>> mediation.
>>
>> Jenny
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>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM, yar <yardenack at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yardenack at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wildcatofthewoods at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> > No this is a fabrication of the issue she left something rotten in the
>>> trash
>>>
>>> Maybe we should have a separate list for conflicts and mediation. Oh
>>> wait, the Omni already has one:
>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation
>>>
>>> Why are you even using sudo-discuss? None of these things even
>>> happened in Sudoroom, they happened elsewhere in the building.
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