[sudo-discuss] Max B asked to leave

[Julio Rios]

Moving lists to Bcc.  Please contact me if you both want to have mediation.
It sounds like there was a general misunderstanding that can be quickly
resolved at least in this specific case.  We're all under a lot of stress,
and things can easily escalate.  Let's chill for a day or so and see what
is feasible then.

-Julio

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:54 PM Max B <maxb.personal at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did tell rob to fuck off. This was after he tried to bully me (for the
> second time in the last year) out of a space in which I am also a member.
>
> I was at sudoroom in the sudomesh shelves looking for a few things which
> I paid for out of my own pocket and had never received any compensation
> for. I have receipts for the rj45ez crimper, the outdoor shielded cable,
> and some rj45s. I'm happy to show them to anyone who asks. Rob came over
> and tried to act as sudoroom police, telling me that I couldn't be there
> and that I couldn't get my things. I told him that while I wasn't a
> member of sudomesh anymore, I was in fact a sudoroom member and that I
> was retrieving a few things that were mine. He continued to tell me I
> couldn't be there. I became emotional and told him to "fuck off". At
> that point he became totally irate and told me that I had to leave,
> putting his body in the way of me getting my things.
>
> At that point, short of a physical altercation, there was nothing I
> could do, so I walked out of the building. I reached my car and realized
> that I only had the crimpers, but I really need the cable for a project
> I'm working on this week, so I went back in the front door. Rob was
> there and got mad again. I told him that I just wanted the cable that
> was mine. He said that I couldn't be in the building, but if I went
> outside I could show him the receipt and he would get the cable for him.
> I opened my computer to get the receipt and looked through my emails.
> Shortly after, he told me that he wasn't in the mood to help me and that
> I could arrange with sudomesh to get it some other time. At that point I
> left.
>
> I need the cable this coming week. I'm planning on coming back tomorrow
> (24 hours temp ban or whatever) to get it. I've already been completely
> and totally let down by the "mediation" process at sudoroom. Several
> core members of the omni can attest to that and it's something which
> I'll discuss with anyone, though I don't need to publicly shame folks.
> After I get my things, I suppose Rob and company can decide if they
> really want to go forwards with mediation after what happened the last
> time.
>
> I was actually only planning on borrowing MY THINGS for a few days.
>
>
> Max
>
> On 8/28/16 3:30 PM, robb wrote:
> > i saw Max B looking through the sudomesh gear and i told him that i
> thought
> > he had quit the sudomesh project & asked what he was doing. He told me to
> > "fuck off" and i asked him to leave for violating our safe space policy.
> He
> > walked back in the front door after i walked him out the side door & when
> > he saw me he claimed he wanted to grab a spool of ethernet cable. i told
> > him to contact sudomesh to get whatever materials he claims are his.
> >
> > i noticed he took a pair of rj45 crimpers (blue handle) which he claimed
> > were his.
> >
> > ~r
> >
> >
> >
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