[sudo-discuss] surface mount electronics donation

Wed Jul 26 03:12:03 PDT 2017

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:03 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> personally i think we should accept those parts, but we've been getting
> rid of
> a lot of unnecessary stuff from sudoroom recently (well mostly not me
> doing it)
> so anything that we get from them that doesn't belong in sudoroom will get
> recycled if nobody else wants it.  I will say that the last stuff we got
> from
> them seems to be pretty decently useful, most of it, so that's a good sign.
>
> I don't think we want the carousels though, they seem like the kind of
> thing
> you use in a factory where you have plenty of space and need random access
> fast, whereas we are only going to survive in sudoroom if we can store
> stuff
> densely and compensate by keeping good records of where stuff is parked.
>

OK - I'll try to take some pictures of the carousel on Thursday, so people
can see what I'm talking about. I do think it provides for some very dense
storage, and would likely come with a ton of other through-hole electronic
parts, connectors and mounting components if we're willing to take the
entire thing. Conversely, if I just take the trays with the SMD components,
I'd have several dozen small trays that would need a rack to go into...

Patrik

>
> -jake
>
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
>
> By the way - I may be able to get a bunch more surface mount components,
>> from the same lab from which I brought over several boxes full of spools
>> before. I assume we want those?
>>
>> BioCurious had originally called dibs on two giant 6ft tall 4-sided
>> carousels of electronic parts that included a bunch of trays with SMD
>> parts. But now they're just taking up space in their new lab, and they
>> want
>> to shrink down a bit. We may even be able to get an entire parts carousel.
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:46 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>
>> OK i renamed the repository to pos2charmhigh to match the true name
>>> so the new link is:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/sudoroom/pos2charmhigh/
>>>
>>> Miloh was doing some work on the machine earlier tonight, but he's into
>>> using
>>> GEDA not KiCAD, but i'm sure his contributions will lift all boats.
>>>
>>> you can push to:
>>> git at github.com:sudoroom/pos2charmhigh.git
>>>
>>> thank you
>>> -jake
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>
>>> there was a rational behind calling the repo pcb2... but... dunno
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, pos2... is for the fact the KiCad outputs .pos (position) files.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to collaborate where ever, hopefully no one forces you to sign
>>>> up
>>>> for GitHub.
>>>>
>>>> As for future updates, I can push where ever is most useful.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --------------
>>>> 2017 Hackaday Prize Entry
>>>> Any Colored Button <https://hackaday.io/project/1
>>>> 9880-any-colored-button>
>>>>
>>>> Step 1. Press Button
>>>> Step 2. ***startupy hand waving***
>>>> Step 3. Profit!
>>>>
>>>> Likes = Votes. Votes = $1s. $1s = Profits.
>>>>
>>>> Step 2 = Vote for Any Colored Button
>>>> <https://hackaday.io/project/19880-any-colored-button>.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Morgan, i am confused, what's the difference between pcb2charmhigh and
>>>>
>>>>> pos2charmhigh?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have pcb2charmhigh which i got from github here:
>>>>> https://gitlab.com/morganrallen/pcb2charmhigh.git/
>>>>>
>>>>> i can't find the source to pos2charmhigh because gitlab doesn't seem to
>>>>> allow
>>>>> me to view the source, if it's even there, without creating a login...
>>>>> which I
>>>>> don't want to do, partially because they're trying to force me to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I forked pcb2charmhigh to a sudoroom repository here:
>>>>> https://github.com/sudoroom/pcb2charmhigh
>>>>>
>>>>> so that I and Miloh and others can collaborate on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will you be updating the pcb2charmhigh repo on gitlab?  At least I can
>>>>> pull from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you,
>>>>> -jake
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2017, Morgan Allen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I worked on a thing today.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.npmjs.com/package/pos2charmhigh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (roughly) converts KiCAD .pos files to something that resembles the
>>>>>> Charmhigh CSV file. I haven't tested the output yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jake, when you did your first test run did you run into any issues
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> negative X/Y coords? When I was trying to set a component local [ 0,
>>>>>> 0 ]
>>>>>> was about 1.5" right of the actual components. I could jog it into
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> once with no problem. Then I'd get an error about a negative
>>>>>> position. I
>>>>>> might make it back later tonight to do some more testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> --------------
>>>>>> 2017 Hackaday Prize Entry
>>>>>> Any Colored Button <https://hackaday.io/project/1
>>>>>> 9880-any-colored-button>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Step 1. Press Button
>>>>>> Step 2. ***startupy hand waving***
>>>>>> Step 3. Profit!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Likes = Votes. Votes = $1s. $1s = Profits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Step 2 = Vote for Any Colored Button
>>>>>> <https://hackaday.io/project/19880-any-colored-button>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the machine menu is entirely in english.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> awesome job translating!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017, miloh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are there english menu options?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> used google translate to get some menu image translations in case
>>>>>>>> there aren't any.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:42 PM, miloh <froggytoad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> chrome browser reads the unicode chinese characters in your text
>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/pnp/placeonepart.txt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> google translate makes a lot of sense with these strings.
>>>>>>>>> the pinyin is useful for cafl speakers who dont read as much hanyu
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> sound out everything
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> %,原点偏移,X,Y,
>>>>>>>>> %,Yuándiǎn piān yí,X,Y,
>>>>>>>>> %,origin offset,X,Y
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> %,料栈偏移,料栈号,X,Y,进给量,注释
>>>>>>>>> %, Liào zhàn piān yí, liào zhàn hào,X,Y, jìn jǐ liàng, zhùshì
>>>>>>>>> %, Material stack offset, material stack number, X, Y, feed,
>>>>>>>>> comment
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this might befor arrays.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> %,拼板1,X,Y,
>>>>>>>>> %, Pīn bǎn 1,X,Y,
>>>>>>>>> %, Puzzle 1, X, Y,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you had me at 'puzzle'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> %,贴头号,料栈号,X,Y,角度,高度,跳过,速度,说明,注释
>>>>>>>>> %, Tiē tóuhào, liào zhàn hào,X,Y, jiǎodù, gāodù, tiàoguò, sùdù,
>>>>>>>>> shuōmíng, zhùshì
>>>>>>>>> %, Sticker number, material number, X, Y, angle, height, skip,
>>>>>>>>> speed,
>>>>>>>>> description, comment
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> good bits here
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> last night i programmed the pick&place machine to place a capacitor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> material slot 3 onto this board, rotating 90 degrees in the
>>>>>>>>>> process,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> placing it perfectly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> here's the video:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuNQKG_SQ30
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> anyway, i made the machine save the program to a .csv file which
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>> new1.csv and then i copied it and inserted comments for us to
>>>>>>>>>> discuss,
>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>> delineated by a # sign.  Note that I do not expect the machine to
>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>> comments in .csv files it's given, but i wanted to show where my
>>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>>> were.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what the upper-ASCII encoding is, but it's surely
>>>>>>>>>> chinese,
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> anyone can figure out how to convert and translate it that might
>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>>>>> the manual is in Chinese so lets translate that too.
>>>>>>>>>> anyway, i made the machine save the program to a .csv file which
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>>> new1.csv and then i copied it and inserted comments for us to
>>>>>>>>>> discuss,
>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>> delineated by a # sign.  Note that I do not expect the machine to
>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>> comments in .csv files it's given, but i wanted to show where my
>>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>>> were.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what the upper-ASCII encoding is, but it's surely
>>>>>>>>>> chinese,
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> anyone can figure out how to convert and translate it that might
>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>>>>> the original manual is in Chinese in a .rar file, although there
>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> .PDF version of it in english, are they the same?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> anyway here's the files:
>>>>>>>>>> http://spaz.org/~jake/pix/pnp/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of course the next step is to add more steps to the program at the
>>>>>>>>>> machine,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> tell it to make multiple boards, so that we can suss out what
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>> lines
>>>>>>>>>> are for.  although to be honest i haven't read the manual yet and
>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> all explained in there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -jake
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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