[sudo-discuss] Incident with Steeve of Sudoroom.

Robert Chu robert.chu01 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 12 11:36:46 PDT 2018

Also if people think I am being to dramatic when I state "bullying", here
is an excerpt from the Bullying page of Wikipedia

"Bullying can be defined in many different ways. The United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Northern Ireland
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom> has no legal definition of
bullying,[6] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying#cite_note-6> while
some states in the United States
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> have laws against it.[7]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying#cite_note-7> Bullying is divided
into four basic types of abuse – emotional
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_abuse> (sometimes called
relational), verbal <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse>, physical
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_abuse>, and cyber.[8]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying#cite_note-8> It typically involves
subtle methods of coercion, such as intimidation.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullying

HIs actions reflected emotional abuse and verbal abuse, used to try to
intimidate me.

I also think it is bullying because he thought I might be to scared or
(dominated over) to do something about it, either that or I am not entirely
sure if he is aware of his own actions.

I stand against bullying, stand up for people being bullied, and choose not
to be a victim of bullying.

I don't have any friends or associates in my life that are bullies, or
treat me in a disrespectful way.  Which is why I really don't even feel
comfortable mediating this with him at the current time.

Thank you for reading

Robert Albert Young Chu
"Radiant Ambition Yields Change."
Call or Text :415-724-0425
Email: robert.chu01 at gmail.com

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Robert Chu <robert.chu01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Robb, thank you for your volunteering to do so. After reflecting off
> of this for three days. I am still a bit shaken over the incident, and
> don't think I even wish to mediate currently, my hands were truly shaking
> for about two hours after his barrage of verbal assaults toward me. I don't
> really even feel comfortable talking through a mediator with him as well at
> the current time.
> He tried bullying me to force me to feel sorry for him, for something in
> which I clearly had done no wrong. He got pissed that I moved "his table",
> because it had his laptop bag attached to it. "THERE IS NO PERSONAL STORAGE
> AT SUDOROOM", if he didn't violate this, then this would not have
> transpired."
> Then I told him how I felt, not to talk to me and was insulted. (assertion
> of dominance, again).
> IMHO through his actions, he straight up bullied me and I defended myself
> by contacting another Sudoroom member for support and advice on the matter
> (who lucky enough was able to pick up during working business hours). I
> felt like I was being whipped mentally everytime he would yell over me
> yelling "F**K You" multiple times." And lying about owning a table.
> I don't tolerate people like that and don't engage with them at all.
> Currently in my life I am not friends, or even associated with anyone, who
> acts in such ways at all.
> Thank you Robb once again stepping up, and your support.
> (even writing this is still eating at the back of my head)
> Robert Albert Young Chu
> "Radiant Ambition Yields Change."
> Call or Text :415-724-0425 <(415)%20724-0425>
> Email: robert.chu01 at gmail.com
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 12:38 PM, robb <sf99er at gmail.com> wrote:
>> if either party wishes for someone to help mediate this matter, i am
>> available
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Steve Leach <stevenaleach at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> To the group as a whole, I apologizing for causing Robert stress, I did
>>> yell at him outside the Omni, though only with the intent of re-expressing
>>> something that I had expressed the previous day in a more clear and
>>> somewhat comedic manner. It seemed that perhaps with his high energy level,
>>> my normal tone the previous day had not registered because I hadn't
>>> bothered to sound upset. So today I intentionally let him know that I was
>>> upset. Now - the issue at hand is something I set myself up for: most
>>> nights, especially when it is raining, I have made it a habit of leaving my
>>> laptop in a basket under a table at the front. There's no pressing reason
>>> to leave it there - my little abode is waterproof and lockable, but not
>>> while I am asleep, and the unlikely scenario of someone opening the door
>>> while I'm unconscious and managing to walk off with my irreplaceable gear
>>> means I've felt safer leaving it semi-secured inside the building rather
>>> than with me at night. Two days in a row, however, I found the basket with
>>> my laptop bag sitting forlorn and alone in the middle of the floor in the
>>> general 'donataions/hack-this' zone where I couldn't blame anyone if they
>>> would have come before me and adopted it. I grumbled good naturedly at
>>> Robert yesterday, just to point out the situation that resulted when the
>>> table went away and suggested he should have taken the other table of the
>>> pair -- or move the basket under the remaining table instead.  Today, I
>>> found the same scenario repeated and decided to actually show that I was
>>> upset. If this apparently frightened or caused stress to Robert, I'm sorry
>>> - that was neither my intention nor at all expected. I just chose to be a
>>> little more theatrical and high energy in communicating with a boisterous
>>> high energy individual who had disregarded my previous attempts at
>>> communication. That he apparently mistook this as threatening is
>>> unfortunate and unexpected - again, I was just trying to more match his
>>> normal energy level and boisterousness since my more flat and
>>> matter-of-fact communication previously had not worked. Again, sorry to all
>>> for causing any unneeded chaos, and in the future I will avoid the problem
>>> by simply keeping my laptop with me at night and therefore not having to
>>> worry about it.
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>> you win*.
>> - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
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