[sudo-discuss] new proposal - need input

[Yardena Cohen]

I get it. You don't like her, you don't trust her. But what does that have
to do with THIS proposal? What specific harm is avoided by holding them to
a pointless debt of money we don't need, which they can't pay? How is your
problem with Almaz solved by keeping a door unlocked when its primary
stewards want to lock it?

Again, if you want GCEA to have a different delegate, why not make a
separate proposal rather than block this one?

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019, 3:59 AM Marc Juul <marc at juul.io wrote:

> Agreed. The problem is that Almaz has not acted in good faith on
> multiple occasions. If Almaz was to step down as GCEA organizer and
> delegate and someone else from GCEA was to take over then it would
> probably be possible to get consensus on this.
>
> On 1/19/19, hol at gaskill.com <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
> > Asking for near-free rent after violating terms of space use does not
> > seem to square with the way Almaz consistently condescends to the omni
> > community; there seems to be a pattern of trying to bend the rules and
> > obfuscate when she gets called out.  I don't attend the Omni meetings so
> > maybe it's different live but my $.02 would be for sudo room to block
> > this proposal and maintain focus on the fact that this collective has
> > not held up its side of the financial or mutual respect dimensions
> > agreed to as condition of membership iirc, and propose a change in
> > membership status for GCEA if needed.
> >
> > On 2019-01-18 1:25 pm, Yardena Cohen wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 12:36 PM Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> This is an extremely problematic issue on multiple fronts which I
> >>> would like to discuss with Sudoers next Wednesday. Attached is sheer
> >>> documentation, for y'allz edification.
> >>
> >> This doesn't add any new information IMO. They've acknowledged their
> >> outstanding debt and they're asking for forgiveness and a change in
> >> terms. Personally, I think it's a reasonable ask. I'm sick of this
> >> conflict dragging on and I think we can just let them have their room
> >> so we can stop wasting time arguing about it.
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