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* eBay has a nonprofit option, sell items to benefit Sudo: https://www.ebayforcharity.org/get-involved/selling-for-a-charity/ | * eBay has a nonprofit option, sell items to benefit Sudo: https://www.ebayforcharity.org/get-involved/selling-for-a-charity/ | ||
* Michael: EBS internet for members | * Michael: EBS internet for members | ||
** $ | ** There are programs that provide affordable internet to educational and non-profit institutions | ||
** example: Calyx Foundation has an "internet membership" | ** [https://mobilecitizen.org/service/affordable-wireless-internet/ $120/yr 5G with unlimited data]. Ask members to contribute $30-$60/mo in exchange for this member benefit? | ||
** https://calyxinstitute.org/membership/internet | ** example: Calyx Foundation has an "internet membership", we can copy what they are doing. | ||
** (7 members voting yes is the quorum) | *** https://calyxinstitute.org/membership/internet | ||
** This is new, will send out email to clarify the details and for the community to decide | ** Judy et. al: this needs to be further discussed (7 members voting yes is the quorum) | ||
** Michael: This is new, will send out email to clarify the details and for the community to decide | |||
* Next month, see how much money we bring in through normal contributions. Can we get to our rent of $2500? | * Next month, see how much money we bring in through normal contributions. Can we get to our rent of $2500? | ||
** $2500 rent, but at some point we'll have to get our own insurance (we're riding off of Omni's insurance) | ** $2500 rent, but at some point we'll have to get our own insurance (we're riding off of Omni's insurance) | ||
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* Jake: this contribution can look like "ssh into the server and make it use a docker from disk" to "log in to MM and take notes on 'this was confusing' or 'this didn't work'" because that's where we're stuck right now. Leah has written up a list of people who have their credit cards expired. But the hold up is that we don't know whether to ask them to login to sudohumans or to create a membermatters account. | * Jake: this contribution can look like "ssh into the server and make it use a docker from disk" to "log in to MM and take notes on 'this was confusing' or 'this didn't work'" because that's where we're stuck right now. Leah has written up a list of people who have their credit cards expired. But the hold up is that we don't know whether to ask them to login to sudohumans or to create a membermatters account. | ||
* Ivan: I've been working with Anca on the front end of MM. When you first create an account, what is the path for a new member? We've worked on membership levels. We were able to add "work-trade membership," "monthly membership," and "annual memberships." But there were 16 tiers of monthly membership and the CSS makes them all look combined. That's a technical problem, but it's connected to the question of "should we have 16 tiers??" or "should we have people enter their own amount?" or "do we even want to offer work-trade membership?" or "how does annual payment work?" | * Ivan: I've been working with Anca on the front end of MM. When you first create an account, what is the path for a new member? We've worked on membership levels. We were able to add "work-trade membership," "monthly membership," and "annual memberships." But there were 16 tiers of monthly membership and the CSS makes them all look combined. That's a technical problem, but it's connected to the question of "should we have 16 tiers??" or "should we have people enter their own amount?" or "do we even want to offer work-trade membership?" or "how does annual payment work?" | ||
* Michael: what | * Michael: what do people think about work-trade? | ||
* Jake: I come at this with a lot of history with hackerspaces. We're not a makerspace where we buy membership that pays for workers that takes care of the space for you. When someone becomes a member, I hope they understand this is a collaborative effort that requires them to do stuff in order to keep this thing going. It feels like the work-trade membership would be suggesting that we turn Sudo Room into an employer by saying we turn some comrades into "employees" rather than co-creating the space. I think if we become their boss/"manager" then that destroys the relationship. If someone wants to be a member and others want them to be a member then they should maybe pay for their membership | * Jake: I come at this with a lot of history with hackerspaces. We're not a makerspace where we buy membership that pays for workers that takes care of the space for you. When someone becomes a member, I hope they understand this is a collaborative effort that requires them to do stuff in order to keep this thing going. It feels like the work-trade membership would be suggesting that we turn Sudo Room into an employer by saying we turn some comrades into "employees" rather than co-creating the space. I think if we become their boss/"manager" then that destroys the relationship. If someone wants to be a member and others want them to be a member then they should maybe pay for their membership | ||
* Michael: considering our current financial situation in which we cannot currently pay our rent from membership dues alone, having a work-trade agreement is out of discussion. | * Michael: considering our current financial situation in which we cannot currently pay our rent from membership dues alone, having a work-trade agreement is out of discussion. | ||
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* Paige: they could evict us, but other groups have been late before. | * Paige: they could evict us, but other groups have been late before. | ||
* Paige: we have it in our lease that it will be raised by the greater of 2% OR 1% + the CPI, so starting next month, we will probably have a raise in rent of around 3%. | * Paige: we have it in our lease that it will be raised by the greater of 2% OR 1% + the CPI, so starting next month, we will probably have a raise in rent of around 3%. | ||
* Michael: let's not tie dues to CPI, because that would be confusing for everyone. | * Michael: We probably need to increase membership dues in the future due to rising rent. but let's not tie dues to CPI, because that would be confusing for everyone. | ||
== 3.Communication mediums == | == 3.Communication mediums == | ||
* discourse forum? (judy). Discourse is completely different than discord. It's something you host yourself, and is a forum | * discourse forum? (judy). Discourse is completely different than discord. It's something you host yourself, and is a forum | ||
** Michael: a forum is too similar to email list, so we should choose one or the other. It's not a good idea to have two mediums that do the same thing. General saying for hackerspace, you want a wiki, a listserv, and an IRC. A Discoure forum would fall in the middle as a discussion medium. | ** Michael: a forum is too similar to email list, so we should choose one or the other. It's not a good idea to have two mediums that do the same thing. General saying for hackerspace, you want a wiki, a listserv, and an IRC/realtime chat. A Discoure forum would fall in the middle as a discussion medium. | ||
** Judy: Discourse is open source forum software that I like a lot, but I won't set one up if everyone is like "nooooo Judy no one wants to sign up for a new account, don't do it" | ** Judy: Discourse is open source forum software that I like a lot, but I won't set one up if everyone is like "nooooo Judy no one wants to sign up for a new account, don't do it" | ||
** Michael: there is a possibilty MM could be single sign-on | ** Michael: there is a possibilty MM could be single sign-on | ||
** Jake: we have very little buy-in on the email list and the Discord, but we have more on the Discord and I'd like to see that grow. If we were an open source software project group and everyone was at a high level of technical willingness and ability, then moving to Discourse woul make sense, but it's just practical that we have a wide spread of willingness and expeirence, and Discord is a sweet spot of "easy to use" | ** Jake: we have very little buy-in on the email list and the Discord, but we have more on the Discord and I'd like to see that grow. If we were an open source software project group and everyone was at a high level of technical willingness and ability, then moving to Discourse woul make sense, but it's just practical that we have a wide spread of willingness and expeirence, and Discord is a sweet spot of "easy to use" | ||
** Michael: | ** Michael: It's not only about | ||
** Jake: we have a forum in Discord! | ** Jake: we have a forum in Discord! | ||
** Michael: I'm not in the Discord lol | ** Michael: I'm not in the Discord lol | ||
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*** Slow: Document store: wiki (which we have) | *** Slow: Document store: wiki (which we have) | ||
*** Medium: Forum but only one forum (and if we had Discourse, then we would NOT have email list, in Michael's estimation) | *** Medium: Forum but only one forum (and if we had Discourse, then we would NOT have email list, in Michael's estimation) | ||
*** Fast: Realtime communication. This one actually can be fragmented like on Signal, Discord, whatever | *** Fast: Realtime communication. This one actually can be fragmented like on Signal, Discord, whatever because there are many groupchats for different purposes | ||
* Creating a matrix space and bridge it with our discord (Michael) | * Creating a matrix space and bridge it with our discord (Michael) | ||
** Matrix is open source and federated | ** Matrix is open source and federated | ||