3 Jul
2013
3 Jul
'13
11:42 p.m.
Hi kids ill be outa toun but mort has a key and yall should do stuff!!!
Ps we should chip in on house fund
Sum thay are asking for 50 bucks a month and that seems fare lets talk bout it sum time
God bless the qeen
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5 Jul
5 Jul
9:30 a.m.
god bless the queen indeed. and will smith for saving our independence.
I will do my very best to be at shop tomorrow at 1pm. should work out.
see you tomorrow!
ps. tom, I'll bring your book. :)
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Jonoakland <bayopensourcehardware(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Hi kids ill be outa toun but mort has a key and yall
should do stuff!!!
Ps we should chip in on house fund
Sum thay are asking for 50 bucks a month and that seems fare lets talk
bout it sum time
God bless the qeen
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12:34 p.m.
Cool so I am teaching a
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sudo room at 2 or something but I will swing by after that maybe.
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Morten H. D. Fuglsang <vallebo(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
god bless the queen indeed. and will smith for saving
our independence.
I will do my very best to be at shop tomorrow at 1pm. should work out.
see you tomorrow!
ps. tom, I'll bring your book. :)
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Jonoakland <
bayopensourcehardware(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi kids ill be outa toun but mort has a key and
yall should do stuff!!!
Ps we should chip in on house fund
Sum thay are asking for 50 bucks a month and that seems fare lets talk
bout it sum time
God bless the qeen
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3:17 p.m.
i should get there a little after 2 myself, will bring $10 to contribute to utilities
Jul 5, 2013 12:34:34 PM, di.franco(a)gmail.com wrote:
Cool so I am teaching a class at sudo room at 2 or something but I will swing by after
that maybe.
>On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Morten H. D.
Fuglsang vallebo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Jonoakland
bayopensourcehardware(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi kids ill be outa toun but mort has a key and yall should do stuff!!!
Ps we should chip in on house fund
Sum thay are asking for 50 bucks a month and
that seems fare lets talk bout it sum time
God bless the qeen
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god bless the queen indeed. and will smith for saving
our independence.
I will do my very best to be at shop tomorrow at 1pm. should work out.
see you tomorrow!
ps. tom, I'll bring your book. :)
Make a great day,Morten H. D. FuglsangUS: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
8 Jul
8 Jul
4:51 p.m.
New subject: Project idea: Cargo trike
What do y'all think? Avoid instability of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed is the max
feasible? I have a bike frame to form the backbone of the system
cheers,
hol
9:41 p.m.
New subject: Project idea: Cargo trike
Been on my backburner project list for a while. Totally down. Got a few
designs in mind. Know an experienced blacksmith interested too.
I'm a bike mechanic. Got access to parts and tools other than Omi aswell
On Jul 8, 2013 4:51 PM, "Hol Gaskill" <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
What do y'all think? Avoid instability of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed is
the
max feasible? I have a bike frame to form the backbone of the system
cheers,
hol
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31 Jul
31 Jul
2:10 a.m.
New subject: Project idea: Cargo trike
we have the technology
http://i.imgur.com/zaHoNVM.jpg
Jul 8, 2013 09:41:35 PM, vallebo(a)gmail.com wrote:
Been on my backburner project list for a while. Totally down. Got a few designs in mind.
Know an experienced blacksmith interested too.
I'm a bike mechanic. Got access to parts and
tools other than Omi aswell
On Jul 8, 2013 4:51 PM, "Hol Gaskill" hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> What do y'all think? Avoid instability
of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed is the max feasible? I have a bike frame to form the
backbone of the system
> cheers,
> hol
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10:39 a.m.
New subject: Project idea: Cargo trike
That's the spirit.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
we have the technology
http://i.imgur.com/zaHoNVM.jpg
Jul 8, 2013 09:41:35 PM, vallebo(a)gmail.com wrote:
Been on my backburner project list for a while. Totally down. Got a few
designs in mind. Know an experienced blacksmith interested too.
I'm a bike mechanic. Got access to
parts and tools other than Omi aswell
On Jul 8, 2013 4:51 PM, "Hol Gaskill" hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> What do y'all think? Avoid
instability of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed
is the max feasible? I have a bike frame to form the backbone of the system
> cheers,
> hol
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30 Jan
30 Jan
11:52 a.m.
New subject: zombie bike cargo thread
hello, is there anybody out there? just nod if you can hear me; is there anyone home?
Jul 31, 2013 10:40:12 AM, di.franco(a)gmail.com wrote:
That's the spirit.
Jul 8, 2013 09:41:35 PM, vallebo(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Been on my backburner project list for a while.
Totally down. Got a few designs in mind. Know an experienced blacksmith interested too.
I'm a bike mechanic. Got access to parts and
tools other than Omi aswell
On Jul 8, 2013 4:51 PM, "Hol Gaskill"
hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> What do y'all think? Avoid instability
of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed is the max feasible? I have a bike frame to form the
backbone of the system
> cheers,
> hol
>
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we have the technology
http://i.imgur.com/zaHoNVM.jpg
11:54 a.m.
New subject: zombie bike cargo thread
Hi.
I want a trike frame.
$$$ -> $
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
hello, is there anybody out there? just nod if you
can hear me; is there
anyone home?
Jul 31, 2013 10:40:12 AM, di.franco(a)gmail.com wrote:
That's the spirit.
Jul 8, 2013 09:41:35 PM, vallebo(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Been on my backburner project list for a
while. Totally down. Got a few
designs in mind. Know an experienced blacksmith interested too.
I'm a bike mechanic. Got access
to parts and tools other than Omi aswell
On Jul 8, 2013 4:51 PM, "Hol
Gaskill" hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> What do y'all think? Avoid instability of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed
is the max feasible? I have a bike frame to form the backbone of the system
> cheers,
> hol
>
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Hol Gaskill hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
we have the technology
http://i.imgur.com/zaHoNVM.jpg
31 Jan
31 Jan
2:42 p.m.
New subject: zombie bike cargo thread
I'm here!
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi.
I want a trike frame.
$$$ -> $
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
hello, is there anybody out there? just nod if
you can hear me; is there
anyone home?
Jul 31, 2013 10:40:12 AM, di.franco(a)gmail.com wrote:
That's the spirit.
Jul 8, 2013 09:41:35 PM, vallebo(a)gmail.com
wrote:
Been on my backburner project list for a
while. Totally down. Got a few
designs in mind. Know an experienced blacksmith interested too.
I'm a bike mechanic. Got access
to parts and tools other than Omi aswell
On Jul 8, 2013 4:51 PM, "Hol
Gaskill" hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
> What do y'all think? Avoid instability of a trailer. Maybe a 4x8 bed
is the max feasible? I have a bike frame to form the backbone of the system
> cheers,
> hol
>
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Hol Gaskill hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
we have the technology
http://i.imgur.com/zaHoNVM.jpg
4 Feb
4 Feb
11:10 a.m.
New subject: bike trailer scheming
OK looks like a few folks still on here. Scheming on a family bike trailers, starting
with 1) flatbed, then moving on to 2) pedicab and 3) enclosed / RV variants.
2'x4' and 4'x8' bed sizes.
As it stands, the MacArthur shop has undergone a purge and does not want a bunch of people
showing up randomly to work on things, so for now we still need to find a spot to build.
Matt has tentatively offered to help build a prototype in his basement (!!!) pending
resolution of tool and material details.
I circulated one design using 1-1/2" x 1/8" angle steel which would allow us to
machine dropouts right into the frame, but is way too heavy all said. The next
oscillation was for prototype was based on 1" x 0.20" square tube available
quick and dirty at home depot - super lightweight but not nearly as strong, possibly not
strong enough for proper cargo moving without a plywood deck. We could play up the
lightweight thing, with a deck of 1" styrofoam sandwiched between sheets of 1/4"
plywood, framed at the perimeter with 1" square tube. The dropouts would have to be
either plate or angle welded or brazed to the tube sections. I've been paying
attention to alot of bike trailers that have been brought around and this seems like the
most sensible detail despite requiring a bit of extra welding. for pedicab and enclosed
applications, it might make sense to use a plate that extends above and below the frame
tube, to act as dropout below and above a tab for bolting on seats or wall framing.
thoughts?
cheers,
hol
6 Feb
6 Feb
5:56 p.m.
New subject: bike trailer scheming
Sounds great. I'm not sure how much I have to add, all ideas sound great.
I'd love to follow the project virtually, and especially what you learn
from different builds etc.
What are plans for opensourcing the designs?
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
OK looks like a few folks still on here. Scheming on
a family bike
trailers, starting with 1) flatbed, then moving on to 2) pedicab and 3)
enclosed / RV variants. 2'x4' and 4'x8' bed sizes.
As it stands, the MacArthur shop has undergone a purge and does not want a
bunch of people showing up randomly to work on things, so for now we still
need to find a spot to build. Matt has tentatively offered to help build a
prototype in his basement (!!!) pending resolution of tool and material
details.
I circulated one design using 1-1/2" x 1/8" angle steel which would allow
us to machine dropouts right into the frame, but is way too heavy all said.
The next oscillation was for prototype was based on 1" x 0.20" square tube
available quick and dirty at home depot - super lightweight but not nearly
as strong, possibly not strong enough for proper cargo moving without a
plywood deck. We could play up the lightweight thing, with a deck of 1"
styrofoam sandwiched between sheets of 1/4" plywood, framed at the
perimeter with 1" square tube. The dropouts would have to be either plate
or angle welded or brazed to the tube sections. I've been paying attention
to alot of bike trailers that have been brought around and this seems like
the most sensible detail despite requiring a bit of extra welding. for
pedicab and enclosed applications, it might make sense to use a plate that
extends above and below the frame tube, to act as dropout below and above a
tab for bolting on seats or wall fra
ming.
thoughts?
cheers,
hol
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9:03 p.m.
New subject: bike trailer scheming
I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your
newsletter.
Seriously though, I'm interested but I'm also a bit overloaded on projects.
I could do it on a saturday or sunday every now and again though.
Especially if there's beer and no deadlines.
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
OK looks like a few folks still on here. Scheming on
a family bike
trailers, starting with 1) flatbed, then moving on to 2) pedicab and 3)
enclosed / RV variants. 2'x4' and 4'x8' bed sizes.
As it stands, the MacArthur shop has undergone a purge and does not want a
bunch of people showing up randomly to work on things, so for now we still
need to find a spot to build. Matt has tentatively offered to help build a
prototype in his basement (!!!) pending resolution of tool and material
details.
I circulated one design using 1-1/2" x 1/8" angle steel which would allow
us to machine dropouts right into the frame, but is way too heavy all said.
The next oscillation was for prototype was based on 1" x 0.20" square tube
available quick and dirty at home depot - super lightweight but not nearly
as strong, possibly not strong enough for proper cargo moving without a
plywood deck. We could play up the lightweight thing, with a deck of 1"
styrofoam sandwiched between sheets of 1/4" plywood, framed at the
perimeter with 1" square tube. The dropouts would have to be either plate
or angle welded or brazed to the tube sections. I've been paying attention
to alot of bike trailers that have been brought around and this seems like
the most sensible detail despite requiring a bit of extra welding. for
pedicab and enclosed applications, it might make sense to use a plate that
extends above and below the frame tube, to act as dropout below and above a
tab for bolting on seats or wall fra
ming.
thoughts?
cheers,
hol
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7 Feb
7 Feb
10:04 a.m.
New subject: bike trailer scheming
no beer and deadlines sounds horrible, so we'll do beer and no deadlines. i keep
going back and forth on materials but one of my buddies has a shit ton of uni-strut so
maybe we should bolt one together to start the experiment. as far as open sourcing,
we'll just share our shop drawings which will be pretty simple. full disclosure - i
would like to do a production run of these, sell most of them, and divvy up the net
revenue (or just trailers) between people who help.
Feb 6, 2014 09:03:25 PM, juul(a)labitat.dk wrote:
I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
As it stands, the MacArthur shop has undergone a
purge and does not want a bunch of people showing up randomly to work on things, so for
now we still need to find a spot to build. Matt has tentatively offered to help build a
prototype in his basement (!!!) pending resolution of tool and material details.
I circulated one design using 1-1/2" x
1/8" angle steel which would allow us to machine dropouts right into the frame, but
is way too heavy all said. The next oscillation was for prototype was based on 1" x
0.20" square tube available quick and dirty at home depot - super lightweight but not
nearly as strong, possibly not strong enough for proper cargo moving without a plywood
deck. We could play up the lightweight thing, with a deck of 1" styrofoam sandwiched
between sheets of 1/4" plywood, framed at the perimeter with 1" square tube.
The dropouts would have to be either plate or angle welded or brazed to the tube
sections. I've been paying attention to alot of bike trailers that have been brought
around and this seems like the most sensible detail despite requiring a bit of extra
welding. for pedicab and enclosed applications, it might make sense to use a plate that
extends above and below the frame tube, to act as dropout below and above a tab for
bolting on seats or wall fra
ming.
thoughts?
cheers,
hol
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Seriously though, I'm interested but I'm also a bit overloaded on projects. I
could do it on a saturday or sunday every now and again though. Especially if there's
beer and no deadlines.
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Hol Gaskill hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
OK looks like a few folks still on here. Scheming on a family bike trailers,
starting with 1) flatbed, then moving on to 2) pedicab and 3) enclosed / RV variants.
2'x4' and 4'x8' bed sizes.
5 Aug
5 Aug
10:47 a.m.
New subject: cargo trike - cargo up front or cargo behind?
cargo up front:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/CargoTrike.jpg
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/amsterdam_cargo_trike_mom…
pros - can see the load, no need for differential, use existing drivetrain w/o
modification
cons - looks a bit silly, unfamiliar handling, more load on articulated joint
cargo behind:
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/516041935/Electric_cargo_trike.jpg
http://www.oushun.com/UploadFiles/2010319195936678.jpg
pros - clear view ahead, load acts as crash cushion against road rage cars, feel like a
trucker
cons - complicated drivetrain involving a differential, cannot see if passengers are
misbehaving
Either way, it would be sweet to build a modular cargo/pedicab platform. Maybe a 4x8
version to start - that's one sheet of plywood. A buddy in austin wanted to build
some pedicabs and mentioned that for left/right brakes it might be better to use
hydraulics so you don't have cable lengths to deal with, just distributing pressure in
brake lines.
Thoughts?
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10:56 a.m.
New subject: cargo trike - cargo up front or cargo behind?
Hydraulic bike brakes cost just a bit more for the to me impressive
benefits.
Go-kart parts may also be something to draw on.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
cargo up front:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/CargoTrike.jpg
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/amsterdam_cargo_trike_mom…
pros - can see the load, no need for differential, use existing drivetrain
w/o modification
cons - looks a bit silly, unfamiliar handling, more load on articulated
joint
cargo behind:
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/516041935/Electric_cargo_trike.jpg
http://www.oushun.com/UploadFiles/2010319195936678.jpg
pros - clear view ahead, load acts as crash cushion against road rage
cars, feel like a trucker
cons - complicated drivetrain involving a differential, cannot see if
passengers are misbehaving
Either way, it would be sweet to build a modular cargo/pedicab platform.
Maybe a 4x8 version to start - that's one sheet of plywood. A buddy in
austin wanted to build some pedicabs and mentioned that for left/right
brakes it might be better to use hydraulics so you don't have cable lengths
to deal with, just distributing pressure in brake lines.
Thoughts?
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5:14 p.m.
New subject: cargo trike - cargo up front or cargo behind?
I am perosnally more interested in front-loaders. Like this one:
http://www.smallroomsoftware.com/files/LIGHT3115.jpg
I've driven several trikes, all with regular rim brakes, and it's fine.
Another factor is that when you are hauling cargo you will naturally start
predicting traffic much more ahead and therefore have to brake much less.
The frontloaders are very popular in Denmark since the 70's. and the bike I
linked just now (called a christiania bike, invented and fabricated in the
freetown in copenhagen) tends to ride for decades with little trouble.
People use them to transport two kids and groceries. All romantic and shit,
but fucking useful too.
I know a skilled metalworker who is very interested in building cargobikes
too. The bohemian blacksmith: http://bohemianblacksmith.com/ When the time
comes that we are ready to start sketching and planning (think ing after
burning man), I will put him in the loop. He knows his shit on all sorts of
metal.
Wgile him at it, I'd like to try and design and build one from scratch, for
the heck of it. Should be a good experience. Biggest obstacle:
getting/making a jig for bike frames.
After that, I'd like to experiment building front-loaders out of hacked
up frames. using a full frame with a modified fork, namely. Should be quite
easy. Though we need to get some TIG welding down. :)
OMI! Also, this Saturday, we shall kick balls. Aleric and Nick from
wikiseat might come over too, they both moved to Oakland very recently.
Very awesome!
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