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(Created page with "'''Sudo Room Meeting - Sunday December 28 2025 4pm-6pm''' = Meeting Details = == Roles == * Facilitator/s: Michael * Timekeeper: Peter * Notetaker/s: Judy == Attendees == Ivan Peter Paige Michael Mick Lo Phae Elaine Leah E Jake Martin Romy Judy = Agenda = 1. Finances, our money problem, 30 min 1. Member Matters, 30 min 1. Communication mediums/channels?, 15 mins 1. Recurring member meetings, 10 mins 1. New event: Wiki Meetup, 5 min 1. Discuss FNB, conflict involvi...") |
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= Agenda = | = Agenda = | ||
1. Finances, our money problem, 30 min | 1. Finances, our money problem, 30 min | ||
1. Member Matters, 30 min | 1. Member Matters, 30 min | ||
1. Communication mediums/channels?, 15 mins | 1. Communication mediums/channels?, 15 mins | ||
1. Recurring member meetings, 10 mins | 1. Recurring member meetings, 10 mins | ||
1. New event: Wiki Meetup, 5 min | 1. New event: Wiki Meetup, 5 min | ||
1. Discuss FNB, conflict involving SR member, 10 mins | 1. Discuss FNB, conflict involving SR member, 10 mins | ||
1. Review new member applications | 1. Review new member applications | ||
== 1.Our Money problems == | == 1.Our Money problems == | ||
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We want to cut over to MemberMatters soon. Can we get consensus on the membership plans/levels? | We want to cut over to MemberMatters soon. Can we get consensus on the membership plans/levels? | ||
1. Work/trade membership - this is for folks who can't afford $ but have some time. Is this something we want to offer in exhange for a key? | 1. Work/trade membership - this is for folks who can't afford $ but have some time. Is this something we want to offer in exhange for a key? | ||
2. Monthly recurring membership - between $10 - $100 month | 2. Monthly recurring membership - between $10 - $100 month | ||
3. Annual recurring Membership - $500, $1000, $2000, $5000 | 3. Annual recurring Membership - $500, $1000, $2000, $5000 | ||
People could still pay through bitcoin, paypal, in-kind trade, etc. | People could still pay through bitcoin, paypal, in-kind trade, etc. | ||
If there are no objections to the above, we'll activate MM and switch the registration over in the early days of 2026. In this case, we = Jek, Juul, Ivan, Anca, Sean. | If there are no objections to the above, we'll activate MM and switch the registration over in the early days of 2026. In this case, we = Jek, Juul, Ivan, Anca, Sean. | ||
* mm is already live and connected to stripe. We just need to finish making our UX adjustments (which includes some Docker hacking) and move over existing users to it. | * mm is already live and connected to stripe. We just need to finish making our UX adjustments (which includes some Docker hacking) and move over existing users to it. | ||
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3.Communication mediums | == 3.Communication mediums == | ||
discourse forum? (judy). Discourse is completely different than discord. It's something you host yourself, and is a forum | * discourse forum? (judy). Discourse is completely different than discord. It's something you host yourself, and is a forum | ||
Michael: a forum is too similar to email list, so we should choose one or the other. It's not a good idea to have two mediums that do the same thing. General saying for hackerspace, you want a wiki, a listserv, and an IRC. A Discoure forum would fall in the middle as a discussion medium. | * Michael: a forum is too similar to email list, so we should choose one or the other. It's not a good idea to have two mediums that do the same thing. General saying for hackerspace, you want a wiki, a listserv, and an IRC. A Discoure forum would fall in the middle as a discussion medium. | ||
Judy: Discourse is open source forum software that I like a lot, but I won't set one up if everyone is like "nooooo Judy no one wants to sign up for a new account, don't do it" | * Judy: Discourse is open source forum software that I like a lot, but I won't set one up if everyone is like "nooooo Judy no one wants to sign up for a new account, don't do it" | ||
Michael: there is a possibilty MM could be single sign-on | * Michael: there is a possibilty MM could be single sign-on | ||
Jake: we have very little buy-in on the email list and the Discord, but we have more on the Discord and I'd like to see that grow. If we were an open source software project group and everyone was at a high level of technical willingness and ability, then moving to Discourse woul make sense, but it's just practical that we have a wide spread of willingness and expeirence, and Discord is a sweet spot of "easy to use" | * Jake: we have very little buy-in on the email list and the Discord, but we have more on the Discord and I'd like to see that grow. If we were an open source software project group and everyone was at a high level of technical willingness and ability, then moving to Discourse woul make sense, but it's just practical that we have a wide spread of willingness and expeirence, and Discord is a sweet spot of "easy to use" | ||
Michael: forum is "medium" while chat is "fast" | * Michael: forum is "medium" while chat is "fast" | ||
Jake: we have a forum in Discord! | * Jake: we have a forum in Discord! | ||
Michael: I'm not in the Discord lol | * Michael: I'm not in the Discord lol | ||
Martin: do we know MM has a forum that we could use? | * Martin: do we know MM has a forum that we could use? | ||
Michael: i think a better way is use MM as single sign on for Discourse login | * Michael: i think a better way is use MM as single sign on for Discourse login | ||
Michael: Judy I think you should do it. Just let us know from technial aspect what kind of stuff do we need. Servers, domain names, any of that. | * Michael: Judy I think you should do it. Just let us know from technial aspect what kind of stuff do we need. Servers, domain names, any of that. | ||
Peter: if we do this, can we have an overarching guide to communication mechanisms of Sudo Room? We have sooooo many. I'm of two minds on this. On one hand, it's good to reach people On the other hand, I can't track everything! Judy: me too | * Peter: if we do this, can we have an overarching guide to communication mechanisms of Sudo Room? We have sooooo many. I'm of two minds on this. On one hand, it's good to reach people On the other hand, I can't track everything! Judy: me too | ||
Michael: I have a write-up on community communciation methods that I can fix up and send to the mailing list. | * Michael: I have a write-up on community communciation methods that I can fix up and send to the mailing list. | ||
Judy: yes Michael do that. | * Judy: yes Michael do that. | ||
Peter: what problem does this solve? | * Peter: what problem does this solve? | ||
Judy: I worry that Discord the company will delete their free tier, like Slack did. I would want to stop using Discord entirely and use Discourse instead, beause Discourse includes realtime chat!!!!!!! | * Judy: I worry that Discord the company will delete their free tier, like Slack did. I would want to stop using Discord entirely and use Discourse instead, beause Discourse includes realtime chat!!!!!!! | ||
Elaine: it's already happening! I can't change my name on different servers anymore, that's now a paid feature!!!! | * Elaine: it's already happening! I can't change my name on different servers anymore, that's now a paid feature!!!! | ||
Mick: Tamarack, for example, has multiple Signal threads. One is just for announcements that only admins can post to. The other is backroom organizing chat where most of the activity happens. There are ways you can organize community communications. | * Mick: Tamarack, for example, has multiple Signal threads. One is just for announcements that only admins can post to. The other is backroom organizing chat where most of the activity happens. There are ways you can organize community communications. | ||
Peter: it's consistent with Sudo Room's mission that we need to be reclaiming the internet. I'm thinking for Michael and Judy there's an experimental group and part of it is promoting it where whatever is happening there is so cool that everyone wants to join it. | * Peter: it's consistent with Sudo Room's mission that we need to be reclaiming the internet. I'm thinking for Michael and Judy there's an experimental group and part of it is promoting it where whatever is happening there is so cool that everyone wants to join it. | ||
Michael: we should have ONE of each of these categories | * Michael: we should have ONE of each of these categories | ||
Slow: Document store: wiki (which we have) | * Slow: Document store: wiki (which we have) | ||
Medium: Forum but only one forum (and if we had Discourse, then we would NOT have email list, in Michael's estimation) | * Medium: Forum but only one forum (and if we had Discourse, then we would NOT have email list, in Michael's estimation) | ||
Fast: Realtime communication. This one actually can be fragmented like on Signal, Discord, whatever | * Fast: Realtime communication. This one actually can be fragmented like on Signal, Discord, whatever | ||
Creating a matrix space and bridge it with our discord (Michael) | * Creating a matrix space and bridge it with our discord (Michael) | ||
Matrix is open source and federated | * Matrix is open source and federated | ||
I tested the bridging using the service below, seem to work well | * I tested the bridging using the service below, seem to work well | ||
https://t2bot.io | * https://t2bot.io | ||
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-discord | * https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-discord | ||
4.Recurring member meeting in the future? | |||
== 4.Recurring member meeting in the future? == | |||
two times a month on sundays? | two times a month on sundays? | ||
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5.Wiki meetup | == 5.Wiki meetup == | ||
hosted by Ivan and Judy on Thursday 1/8/26 at 6:30pm. | hosted by Ivan and Judy on Thursday 1/8/26 at 6:30pm. | ||
https://sudoroom.org/events/wiki-edit-a-thon/ | * https://sudoroom.org/events/wiki-edit-a-thon/ | ||
https://luma.com/4winxhza | * https://luma.com/4winxhza | ||
Goal is for it to be a monthly meeting. Or maybe twice a month? | * Goal is for it to be a monthly meeting. Or maybe twice a month? | ||
Meeting notes | |||
=== Meeting notes for wiki meetup/member meetings === | |||
let's do it every week EXCEPT once a month, the member meeting replaces it!!!!!!!!! | let's do it every week EXCEPT once a month, the member meeting replaces it!!!!!!!!! | ||
6.FNB - SR member, conflict discussion | |||
== 6.FNB - SR member, conflict discussion == | |||
"___, current sudoroom member, was suspended from FNB for a pattern of impersonations of people online and squatting in the building..." | "___, current sudoroom member, was suspended from FNB for a pattern of impersonations of people online and squatting in the building..." | ||
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Jake: let's put that as an important question to consider; if CALLI says do not let them in then we will not let them in. | Jake: let's put that as an important question to consider; if CALLI says do not let them in then we will not let them in. | ||
Todo items | == 7.Review New Members == | ||
Paige: register for benevity | |||
Mick and Paige: insurance | * Ivan's Report: | ||
Group chat to test MemberMatters - DONE | * There are 22 live applications right now. | ||
Find out from CALLI if the person needs to be prohibited from entering the building | * We have 2 applicants paying but don't have enough endorsements | ||
Ivan: various emailing of new members and soon-to-be-members | * Ivan will send them emails to say "hey come meet people and get them to endorse you" | ||
* We have 3 that have everything but have not signed up to pay | |||
* Ivan will send them reminder emails | |||
* We have one applicant that is ready to be a member, vote? | |||
* Ivan will send the member welcome email | |||
* Update process: | |||
* https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Membership | |||
* https://sudoroom.org/membership | |||
* https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Membership/Brainstorm | |||
= Todo items = | |||
* Paige: register for benevity | |||
* Mick and Paige: insurance | |||
* Group chat to test MemberMatters - DONE | |||
* Find out from CALLI if the person needs to be prohibited from entering the building | |||
* Ivan: various emailing of new members and soon-to-be-members | |||