mesh January 2015

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Re: [Mesh] mesh Digest, Vol 23, Issue 23

by Will Martin

Hey guys I'm battling a cold right now and I don't want to get you all sick so I'm going to skip the Sunday node mounting today. Are you all planning to meet later this week? Hopefully I'll be back to normal by then. Will Martin On Wednesday, December 31, 2014, <mesh-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> wrote: > Send mesh mailing list submissions to > mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mesh-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mesh-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mesh digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: q's for next general meeting (April Glaser) > 2. Re: q's for next general meeting (max b) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 12:15:36 -0800 > From: April Glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net <javascript:;>> > To: max b <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com <javascript:;>> > Cc: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;>" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org > <javascript:;>> > Subject: Re: [Mesh] q's for next general meeting > Message-ID: <54A45968.1000401(a)riseup.net <javascript:;>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > hi max! > > hope you're having a warm, relaxing, and productive break - wherever you > are. > > here are our notes from our meeting yesterday: > https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomesh > i incorporated your comments. > > we have a heavy to-do list but they are all pretty light lifts. we'll > likely not meet this thrusday b/c it's a rare holiday. but we are > meeting at Omni on Sunday at 2p to climb someone's roof. > > summary: > -we are focusing on funding and listing/reaching out to uplink options > -we will have a 2 day small retreat for regulars soon to map goals and > make firmware progress and apply for grants > -we want to start mounting antennas, maybe every sunday? > -landlord is not cool with drilling into the Omni roof. marc proposed > using sandbags. > > more soon, > april > > On 12/30/14 1:12 PM, max b wrote: > > Hi April, > > > > Super glad that you're revisiting the docs! > > > > I'm currently out of town for a little while, but hoping to ramp up > > some dev work from here (turns out parent's houses are good > > distraction-free zones...) > > > > i'm dim about what our next goals are and who/where we want to > > outreach to about mounting a router. > > > > > > I would say that there are a few groups of people: > > - The most important folks would be anyone who can provide us with an > > internet uplink. It would probably also require us to be able to > > install a little gear on their roof or somehow otherwise transmit that > > bandwidth to a remote location. > > > > - The second most important group would be anyone who has access to a > > high point, whether that be a roof with good line of sight around > > them, someone with a radio tower, someone living in the hills, etc. > > > > - The last group would be anyone who would want to host one of the > > "indoor" nodes. We haven't generally had any problems finding these > > folks in the past. ALSO, the firmware for these devices had to be > > re-vamped and is not yet finished (hopefully what I'll be doing while > > I'm here....) > > > > > > i'd like to request that at our next thurs meeting we spend the > > first hour: > > -answering a few questions, > > -looking at our existing outreach list > > < > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxG6s1NFAEd9dasX5-Hdrz4jR6IWk9CkQTD… > >, > > -prioritize it, and > > -list what materials we need to update/create to bring our > > outreach partners a solid proposal. > > > > > > I absolutely agree, although I won't be there. If it looks like there > > are specific questions or whatever that I can answer I can try to be > > on IRC or etherpad for the meeting. > > > > > > also, does anyone here know what parts of the wiki need some love? > > (we can also list the outdated pages this thurs in 2015) > > > > > > From my perspective, the parts that need the most love are > > documentation of our current progress and status. This also coincides > > with our lack of a project management framework. I know that folks > > don't really like being cornered into using tools they don't like, but > > we're all a little fuzzy about who is actually working on what and > > when. I've looked some various projects and I'm thinking about setting > > up a test installation of https://github.com/malclocke/fulcrum > > > > As for the wiki, the following pages are pretty out of date and don't > > reflect much current content: > > - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware > > This is largely my fault, but reflects on the difficulty in > > visualizing where exactly we are with ongoing development and what is > > left to do > > > > - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/ToDos > > This also largely reflects on the difficulty in visualizing where > > exactly we are with ongoing work. It might be a good start to figure > > out where exactly we are and what we want to do and articulate this here > > > > - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Funding > > I'm starting to think more and more that we're going to need to really > > start generating more income. We certainly have a good start, but I > > think that if we ever want to create the kind of service we're hoping > > to then we'll need some more cash (maybe even enough to pay some > > staff?). This page is already nicely compiled, but we might want to > > dive a little deeper to see if we can actually seize on any of them. > > > > > > Other people might have other opinions about pages that need work, but > > that's what I've got for the moment... > > > > > > Hopefully some of that is useful. > > > > Max > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 6:09 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net > <javascript:;> > > <mailto:april.glaser@riseup.net <javascript:;>>> wrote: > > > > hi all, > > > > i have a few questions as i attempt to update the wiki, add a new > > blogpost (maybe pen an article for an outside publication on the > > project), and update an outreach plan. > > > > but i'm dim about what our next goals are and who/where we want to > > outreach to about mounting a router. > > > > i'd like to request that at our next thurs meeting we spend the > > first hour: > > > > -answering a few questions, > > -looking at our existing outreach list > > < > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OxG6s1NFAEd9dasX5-Hdrz4jR6IWk9CkQTD… > >, > > > > -prioritize it, and > > -list what materials we need to update/create to bring our > > outreach partners a solid proposal. > > > > would folks mind doing that? i'll gladly facilitate to help keep > > us on point and to the point :) i'll also take notes and add the > > ether pad to the wiki. this will help me to dig in and hack on our > > community organizing moving forward. > > > > also, does anyone here know what parts of the wiki need some love? > > (we can also list the outdated pages this thurs in 2015) > > > > excelsior, > > april > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mesh mailing list > > mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;> <mailto: > mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org <javascript:;>> > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh > > > > > > -- > 0x54FC570B > >

10 years, 9 months

retreat report back

by April Glaser

hi friends, sorry for the delay in getting this to you all. sometimes real jobs get in the way, no? :-) it was a productive weekend. the dev team made bable work, so big ups to max, marc, alex, and jake for plowing through that. the notes can be found after our last meeting's notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomesh we also got some implementation plans and definitions ironed out. please thumb through the notes at your leisure. and hang in there. i'll be in touch soon with new folks about plugging in and marking things off a to-do list. thanks to all the new folks for coming! all my very best, april ps: the notes aren't that clean, but their not beyond the understanding. pss: do you anyone who lives in the oakland hills that would love a new antenna on their roof? --- *definitions* * What differentiates sudomesh from similar projects? * It's not a mesh in a traditional sense, of like a single omnidirectional antennas. We're talking about community networks. Other installations around the US do not integrate the notion of providing high levels of service. We want to provide a high speed, symmetrical, and reliable connection. * We are looking at aslightlydifferent kind of network topology. We'll need some number of backbone links, likely with base stations that individuals can connect to. Different than the sort of "mesh" cloud of omni-directional links that "mesh" is often referred. * People's open also requires people who wants to peer on the network to sign a lisence agreement that explicitly denotes principles of network neutrality. -- 0x54FC570B

10 years, 9 months

New person!

by Oren Leiman

Hi All, My name is Oren. I recently quit my job as a software engineer in startup land to make big art and work on projects that actually help our community. With respect to the latter, I'd love to get involved with the SudoMesh. I'm proficient in C and Python, pick up new languages and protocols quickly, and am fun and personable :D I tried showing up to the hack night on the 29th, but all I saw at the Omni was a JavaScript user group and some folks talking about an X-Ray gun (wowee!!). Anyway, I'd like to sink up with everyone in person before I dive too deep into code. Is the hack night, in fact, held at the Omni? Is there one this coming Tuesday? What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?!? In the meanwhile, I'd love to start at least *looking* at some code if there's a particular place in the sudo-room GitHub org at which you usually point new recruits. Any and all info is much appreciated. Thanks! Oren

10 years, 9 months

mini mesh retreat draft agenda

by April Glaser

Hi everybody, Feel free to introduce edits. It's a draft. It's also attached. Pls note that this is a tiny meeting for folks who have been focusing on the project to make some core decisions and sprint. Thanks to all! -April AGENDA FOR SUDOMESH RETREAT /s//tarting at 11am, realistically at 12noon. (bfast at secret cafe at April's?) / *Saturday* 12noon – Definitions * What differentiates sudomesh from similar projects? * What is peoplesopen.net vs. sudo mesh? * Peering agreements? Clarify. * Levels of participation, what? 1pm – Insights from Preston, formerly of Commotion and OTI, eat, walk 2:30 pm – Uplink decisions 3:30 pm – Stare at a map for an hour or so 4:30 – Mount antenna(s) 6:00 – List edits to website, cook dinner Onward: /sprint to get Bable working, make list of website updates, navigate bureaucracy, drink, go out on the water, take notes, burn them/ *Sunday* 12noon – Firmware project management and bug tracking, drink water and coffee, make food 2pm – Funding options. 3pm – Sprint on firmware, navigate bureaucracy, update website, don't lose faith 6pm – Calendar the future and cook food: where would we like to see the project go over the next year? Something cool like (but more precise + on a calendar): * Update website * Make a way to order pre-flashed nodes * Mount antennas * Run beta-test * Start deeper community outreach to find a local network need. Try to mount nodes with the larger community of users... * Create materials for new node owners * Crowdfunding campaign? 7pm – Whatever we didn't cover? Refine a to-do list to ease on-boarding new awesome participants? Cook together. Continue. -- -- 0x54FC570B

10 years, 9 months

uplink options

by April Glaser

Hi friends, Please excuse my excessive emailing today. Looking at our short list of possible uplink options now; wanted to make sure I'm not missing any. We have: LMI Internet Archive Cogent Level 3 365 UC Berkeley (how? Cloyne and Mitar?) MonkeyBrains, if their in the East Bay There are more, right? I may be dim. -april -- 0x54FC570B

10 years, 10 months

Delayed but on my way

by Marc Juul

I'll probably be at sudo room in 20 minutes. If you're new and no-one is there, don't despair! -- marc/juul

10 years, 10 months

relevant new white house statement

by April Glaser

video: http://www.whitehouse.gov/share/heres-why-we-need-invest-high-speed-broadba… so President Obama wants the FCC to preempt state laws that restrict community and municipal "braodband" initiatives. there are 20 states that do this now; it's mostly the result of ALEC lobbying on behalf of cable companies to pass a suite of anti-competitive laws back around 2005. in any event, this is a major signal that the funding environment might soon open. so it's great we're meeting to soon to chat the present/future. if anyone wants a bit more context into CA's awkward and weak restrictions on municipal fiber, prod me to explain ! my best, april -- 0x54FC570B

10 years, 10 months

of possible interest

by Mike Liebhold

Of possible interest: ( please forgive cross posting) Please join us next Tuesday 1/27 in Palo Alto for the next event in the Institute for the Future's Second Curve Internet (Insurgent Internet) Speaker Series What should Version 2 of the Internet look like? ,And how should we get there? IFTF Second Curve Internet Speaker Series with Peter Eckersley—January 27, 2015 Powered by Ten-Year Forecast The Internet's core protocols—TCP, IP, DNS, HTTP, HTTPS—have served us very well for the past twenty to thirty years. But all of these protocols have limitations that are beginning to bite us in various ways. Because of these limitation, our global network is less secure, less reliable, and harder to innovate with. In this talk, EFF Technology Projects Director Peter Eckersley will give a tour of those limitations, and review some of the current efforts to upgrade the Internet's protocols to fix them. This includes the newly announced Let's Encrypt certificate authority, which EFF is working on with Mozilla, Cisco, and Akamai, that aims to make HTTPS free and ubiquitous. It also includes an analysis of essential features of other efforts to upgrade TCP, IP, and DNS such as IPv6, DNSSEC, and QUIC, and the difficulties that Internet engineers face when they try to change the protocols used by a planet-wide network. In IFTF's new Second Curve Internet Speaker Series, we explore the critical elements necessary to reinvent the Internet, gathering leading minds together with IFTF’s deep experience thinking about technology and the ways of communicating, coordinating, and organizing in the changing world around us. Join us for our January event featuring Peter Eckersley! Peter Eckersley is Technology Projects Director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. He leads a team of technologists who watch for technologies that, by accident or design, pose a risk to computer users' freedoms—and then look for ways to fix them. They write code to make the Internet more secure, more open, and safer against surveillance and censorship. They explain gadgets to lawyers and policymakers, and law and policy to gadgets. Peter's work at EFF has included privacy and security projects such as Panopticlick, HTTPS Everywhere, SSDI, and the SSL Observatory; helping to launch a movement for open wireless networks; fighting to keep modern computing platforms open; and running the first controlled tests to confirm that Comcast was using forged reset packets to interfere with P2P protocols. Peter holds a PhD in computer science and law from the University of Melbourne; his research focused on the practicality and desirability of using alternative compensation systems to legalize P2P file sharing and similar distribution tools while still paying authors and artists for their work. He is an affiliate of the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University. Event Details DATE: January 27, 2015 TIME: 6-8pm LOCATION: Institute for the Future, 201 Hamilton Ave., Palo Alto, California 94301 - See more at: Sign up here: http://www.iftf.org/our-work/global-landscape/ten-year-forecast/reinventthe… By the way - if you missed the first two events in the series: with Cory Doctorow and David P. Reed, The Videos are online here: Redesigns for a Broken Internet - Cory Doctorow [Video] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J_9EFGFR-Y "The Internet's broken and that's bad news, because everything we do today involves the Internet and everything we'll do tomorrow will require it. But governments and corporations see the net, variously, as a perfect surveillance tool, a perfect pornography distribution tool, or a perfect video on demand tool—not as the nervous system of the 21st century. Time's running out. Architecture is politics. The changes we're making to the net today will prefigure the future our children and their children will thrive in—or suffer under." Cooperate and Thrive, or Divide and Conquer? David P. Reed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RAnHWPS-Iw "You never step into the same river twice. So it is with the Internet. The Internet transcends any particular physical devices, any particular services, country boundaries etc. But today it remains a collection of rivers, with firm banks, a few major sources, and a vast undifferentiated ocean of "consumers." The Internet has begun to encompass the air around us. That is, almost all of us in the West now carry the Internet with us, maintaining constant connections to the rivers, attempting to create "rivers" in the sky. Technically, rivers in the sky makes no sense at all. What will the next phase of the Internet look like? How will it be built? In this talk we will focus on two major technology issues that challenge the future evolution of the Internet—radio networking architecture and proximate interaction. In each, the core principles that helped the Internet succeed are being discarded. What will happen?" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "[IFTF] Second Curve Internet" group. 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10 years, 10 months

Fwd: [sudo-info] Invitation to participate in a Community Networks Wordwide Project

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Esunly Medina <esunly(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:15 AM Subject: [sudo-info] Invitation to participate in a Community Networks Wordwide Project To: info(a)sudoroom.org Dear member of Sudo Mesh, I am a researcher in the European project on Community Networks CONFINE ( http://confine-project.eu/). Currently, we are working on a website to include informational content of general interest about all active Community Networks worldwide. We would like to include general information about the networks but especially, some real-life stories about the impact of these networks in people and communities. We would like to include information about Sudo Mesh. If you are willing to collaborate in this project, we would really appreciate if you could reply to this email confirming your agreement and, if possible, including a brief presentation of the Sudo Mesh network (its beginnings, geographical extension, number of nodes, members, etc) and also all the information that you might find interesting and would like to share with us. Also if you have an interesting story about how Sudo Mesh has benefited the life of some individuals or communities, we would love to hear about it. Thank you very much for your help and I am looking forward very much to hearing from you. Best regards, Esunly Medina _______________________________________________ Info mailing list Info(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/info

10 years, 10 months

Sunday mounting

by April Glaser

Hi there, If people want to try to mount an antenna at my place tomorrow, that'd be great. But it's going to take a bit of planning, as I'm unsure where in my enclave would be best. -If you have a very tall ladder to bring, let me know. Otherwise I'll find one. -I don't want to put my address out on this list, but maybe folks can meet at Omni again and come over together? When? I'm free starting at 1pm. Wishing everyone a wonderful evening. -abril -- 0x54FC570B

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