mesh February 2018

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20 participants
35 discussions

by G Gallo

Hey meshers, This is your weekly reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed to the SudoMesh meeting agenda before 7:30p on Tuesday 27 February: https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/notes >> Add your item where it says "Example Discussion Item" or "Example Proposal" If you do add something, we expect you to come to the meeting to give some context and lead that discussion. This is Tuesday is also (officially) a general meeting, so new people are encouraged to come and learn about the mesh! Plus, we may have another Node Whisperer Program <https://github.com/sudomesh/node-whisperer-program> breakout group if people are interested. See y'all Tuesday! -grant____/@paidforby

6 years, 1 month

Electrical Help Needed

by G Gallo

Hey mesh people! We are in need of some volunteer electrical help. One potential node location has some unique power constraints and the resident would like advice on untangling a junction box and running some new conduit out of it. They are willing to do most of the labor themself, but would like to consult with someone who has experience as an electrician and is familiar with installation standards. If you'd like to help out, please email me directly as I am coordinating with resident. Thanks, -grant

6 years, 1 month

BYOI Office Hours/Node Mounts Sun 2/25

by Mai Ishikawa Sutton

Hello fellow mesh enthusiasts, Apologies for the late notice! — Tomorrow Sun 25 Feb we'll have Build Your Own Internet (BYOI) office hours* from 1pm at SudoRoom. HOWEVER, most of us will be preparing for and going out to mount nodes (aka antenna + wifi router) at two strategic locations. We haven't yet determined who all is going to each one, but you can show up and we can figure it out then. Or if you can't join on the outing, stop by closer to 1pm to ask us questions/observe as we prepare in case you'd like to learn about what it's like to go on a node mount. cheers, Mai --- ** What are BYOI office hours? It serves two purposes:* *1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting or are not "in the know."* *2. A friendly, non-confrontational time for new people to get oriented to the project or just ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service provider.* *We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice, conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues.*

6 years, 1 month

Can we put an antenna on your roof?

by Arthur Tilley

Hi folks (Ivan and Alex?), My name is Arthur. I'm part of a group called the People's Open Network. We're a Oakland based non-profit trying to foster a community run mesh network in the Bay Area. https://peoplesopen.net/ I asked for your contact information from my friend Jerry Lugert, who I'm sure you know. (Jerry is currently road tripping through the south-east US in his new VW van.) Also I myself was at your place on Euclid years ago for a small dinner event. I wanted to reach out because I'm hoping you might be interested in being part of the PON, may want to obtain a home node, and might be willing to make space for one or more antennae on your roof. An overview of how individual nodes function in the overall mesh can be found here https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Technical_Overview Whether or not you would wish to share bandwidth or function simply as a repeater is up to you. If you would just like to talk about the group, please feel free to ask, and if you are willing, I and a couple others could come over some weekend to fill you in on the details. I really do hope to hear from you. :) best, Arthur

6 years, 1 month

Fwd: People Centered Internet will be featured at Stanford GSB Vision Puerto Rico – Community-Led Action for Immediate and Long-Term Vitality, March 10

by Marc Juul

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mei Lin Fung <mlfung(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:37 AM Subject: People Centered Internet will be featured at Stanford GSB Vision Puerto Rico – Community-Led Action for Immediate and Long-Term Vitality, March 10 To: All <all(a)ch-mrc.org>, pci-board(a)googlegroups.com Hello from Mei Lin - We've come a long way since the People Centered Internet kicked off at Stanford in 2015. So when Vint Cerf as our Chairman <https://www.devex.com/news/vint-cerf-google-s-internet-evangelist-on-the-ne…> called for a "Marshall Plan" for Puerto Rico, we knew this was the moment we were waiting for. Dr. David Bray, our Executive Director joined us after serving as CIO of the FCC <https://www.washingtonexec.com/2018/02/where-are-they-now-dr-david-bray/> has spoken of the transition from eGov to ePublic Service and the key role that #PositiveChangeAgents will play. As we reached out to our community we have been deeply touched and inspired by the response - a global network is mobilizing, to name just one: Women's Campaign International <http://www.womenscampaigninternational.org/> is working shoulder to shoulder with us.Our PCI team will be introducing Project Coqui <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZRlF4xqTHM>led by Melvin Cordova <https://www.linkedin.com/in/melvin-cordova-55aa733b/> and Marti Grimminck <https://www.innovativeresilience.org/> By listening to the voice of the people in the local communities in Puerto Rico, we can develop projects that are sustainable. These were the factors that enabled Singapore's success: Invest in people, the most powerful underutilized asset will payback 100-fold. Together, we can take action for a better future, demonstrating the power of the* Internet of the people by the people for the people. * Join us to assure a better future that everyone can be part of creating. Spread the word! *NEWSFLASH * PCI Chairman Vint Cerf will be mid-pen for an evening fundraiser for Puerto Rico on March 6. Let me know if you can join us: Email me at mlf(a)alum.mit.edu and I will send you an invitation. *PS We welcome donations of smartphones - Project Coqui lands in Puerto Rico Tuesday February 27th.* A journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step. [image: Stanford GSB Hispanic Business Student Association][image: Stanford GSB Hispanic Business Student Association] *Vision Puerto Rico — Community-Led Action for Immediate and Long-Term Vitality* *March 10, 2018* 10 am – 3 pm Knight Management Center Join us for an interactive meeting featuring GSB alumni and others who are at the forefront of implementing real solutions in Puerto Rico. José E. Feliciano <https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/alumni/featured-events/award-events/latino-lea…>, MBA ’99, the 2018 Jerry I. Porras Latino Leadership Award recipient, will kick off an exciting array of on-the-ground efforts for you to hear about and discuss. Your ideas will be captured using interactive audience polling. We invite you to bring your data-enabled device to participate in real-time polling. This event is a part of *Vision 2025: Diversity & Community at the GSB*, an alumni-led initiative that seeks to engage the Stanford community in activities that honor our diversity and build our community. READ MORE AND REGISTER <https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/events/vision-puerto-rico-2018-jerry-i-porras-…> Questions? Please contact Julia Sullivan, MBA ’82, at julia(a)justmentors.org or Lisa Brown, GSB Alumni Relations, at lbrown(a)stanford.edu. Copyright © 2018 Stanford Graduate School of Business, 655 Knight Way, Stanford, CA 94305–7298 <https://maps.google.com/?q=655+Knight+Way,+Stanford,+CA+94305%E2%80%937298&…> ------------------------------ If you are encountering difficulties with the above email, contact Customer Service <https://pgnet.stanford.edu/feedback/Service/getForm?url=SMfooter&pcode=265>. You may also email alumniwebhelp(a)stanford.edu or call toll free, 1-866-543-0243 <(866)%20543-0243> (International: +1(650) 724-0627 <(650)%20724-0627>). Stanford University | Frances C. Arrillaga Alumni Center | 326 Galvez Street, Stanford, CA 94305 <https://maps.google.com/?q=326+Galvez+Street,+Stanford,+CA+94305&entry=gmai…>

6 years, 1 month

Proposing/ Announcing the Node Explainer Program (NEP) - starting tomorrow!

by Jorrit Poelen

hey y'all: After our infamous weeks long exit node outage (see https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues/8) , I am hoping to get more folks to explain to others how nodes (home/exit) work and keep 'em running. Now is a good time because juul is pretty busy and I'll be out of the country until early March. This is why I've added the following proposal for tomorrows meeting: "The Node Explainer Program (NEP, better names proposal encouraged: node whisperer, node operator?) - *Node explainers explain how (exit/home) nodes work and keep them from misbehaving by troubleshooting, preparing bug fixes, applying patches, implementing new features and upgrading software. *To become a node explainer, you should be able to show someone how to build your own internet by configuring one, (ideally two) home node(s) (https://peoplesopen.net/walkthrough ) to use a custom, self-created exitnode (https://github.com/sudomesh/exitnode ). This also includes showing how babeld and tunneldigger work together by using (and improving!) https://github.com/sudomesh/babeld-lab and https://github.com/sudomesh/tunneldigger-lab on the home and exit nodes using tools like ip route , ip addr, tcpdump . " Hoping to help get 2-3 explainers (the three bens + ... ?) up and running before Thursday, and I am volunteering for a node explainer break-out on Tuesday after the general sudomesh meeting. If you are thinking of joining, please bring a laptop with ethernet port, a home node and access to a digital ocean account. Please holler if you have questions or just want to share that this is a ridiculous idea. thx, -jorrit

6 years, 1 month

Fwd: [Mozilla/NSF-WINS] Stage 1 winners and Stage 2 instructions

by Jenny Ryan

People's Open Network has received an Honorable Mention for the Smart Community Networks Challenge! Both PON and Disaster Radio have been chosen to move onto Stage 2 of the Challenge. Great work, team! -- Jenny Ryan People's Open Network <https://peoplesopen.net> *Building a community-owned and -operated wireless network in Oakland, California!* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mehan Jayasuriya <mehan(a)mozillafoundation.org> Date: Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:06 PM Subject: [Mozilla/NSF-WINS] Stage 1 winners and Stage 2 instructions To: Mehan Jayasuriya <wirelesschallenge(a)mozillafoundation.org> Hello, This morning, we announced the 20 teams that were chosen for awards during Stage 1 of the NSF-WINS Challenges. You can view all of the winning projects, as well as profiles of our judges, on the NSF-WINS website <https://wirelesschallenge.mozilla.org/>. If you’re receiving this email, your team has been selected to move on to Stage 2 of the Challenges. We’re experiencing an issue where some teams did not receive notification of their status via email; please find a copy of the Stage 2 notification letter attached to this email. If you have any additional questions about your application status, please let us know. What’s Next? The WINS Stage 2 application is now available via the Fluxx portal. Simply log into Fluxx using your existing credentials in order to fill out the application. Please see the application guide for a full set of instructions on how to fill out the Stage 2 application <https://wirelesschallenge.mozilla.org/_assets/NSF.WINS.application.guide.pdf>. Please make sure you’re using the latest version of the guide (v1.3, February 2018), as some of the Stage 2 application questions have changed since the previous version. Your Stage 2 application is due by June 22nd. What Will the Judges Be Looking for in Stage 2? The goal of Stage 2 of the Challenges is to turn your design concept into a working prototype that demonstrates what the capabilities of a real network based on your design could be. This might mean a piece of hardware (for example, a single network node that runs your software), an MVP (minimum viable product) version of your solution or even a small-scale test network that users can connect to. Judges will be looking for a prototype that can demonstrate things like network speed, range and power consumption; please see the application guide for a detailed list of criteria <https://wirelesschallenge.mozilla.org/_assets/NSF.WINS.application.guide.pdf> . In July, a select number of Stage 2 finalists will be invited to a “demo day” showcase in Mountain View, CA on August 14th, where they will demo their working prototypes for judges. Finalists will be asked to give a short presentation that identifies the problem they are trying to solve, the intended users of their solution and the capabilities of their prototype. More details on the demo day event will be provided this summer. Congratulations on being selected to move on to Stage 2 of the Challenges! We look forward to reviewing your working prototype this summer. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Mehan Jayasuriya Program Manager, NSF-WINS Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

6 years, 1 month

Proposing/ Announcing the Node Explainer Program (NEP) - starting tomorrow!

by Benjamin Goering

Count me in. I will be there tonight for breakout, and do my best to become an explainer > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:24:24 -0800 > From: Jorrit Poelen <jhpoelen(a)xs4all.nl> > To: mesh <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [Mesh] Proposing/ Announcing the Node Explainer Program (NEP) > - starting tomorrow! > Message-ID: <5af61ff6-836b-7c8b-cc9a-e20aa93bd56e(a)xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > hey y'all: > > After our infamous weeks long exit node outage (see > https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues/8) , I am hoping to get more > folks to explain to others how nodes (home/exit) work and keep 'em > running. Now is a good time because juul is pretty busy and I'll be out > of the country until early March. > > This is why I've added the following proposal for tomorrows meeting: > > "The Node Explainer Program (NEP, better names proposal encouraged: node > whisperer, node operator?) - *Node explainers explain how (exit/home) > nodes work and keep them from misbehaving by troubleshooting, preparing > bug fixes, applying patches, implementing new features and upgrading > software. *To become a node explainer, you should be able to show > someone how to build your own internet by configuring one, (ideally two) > home node(s) (https://peoplesopen.net/walkthrough ) to use a custom, > self-created exitnode (https://github.com/sudomesh/exitnode ). This also > includes showing how babeld and tunneldigger work together by using (and > improving!) https://github.com/sudomesh/babeld-lab and > https://github.com/sudomesh/tunneldigger-lab on the home and exit nodes > using tools like ip route , ip addr, tcpdump . " > > Hoping to help get 2-3 explainers (the three bens + ... ?) up and > running before Thursday, and I am volunteering for a node explainer > break-out on Tuesday after the general sudomesh meeting. If you are > thinking of joining, please bring a laptop with ethernet port, a home > node and access to a digital ocean account. Please holler if you have > questions or just want to share that this is a ridiculous idea. > > thx, > -jorrit >

6 years, 1 month

Call for Sudo Mesh meeting agenda items

by Mai Ishikawa Sutton

Hey there, This is your weekly reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed to the SudoMesh meeting agenda before Tuesday 20 February: https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/notes >> Add your discussion item where it says "Example Discussion Item" or "Example Proposal" If you do add something, we expect you to come to the meeting to give some context and lead that discussion. Thanks! Mai

6 years, 2 months

SudoMesh meeting minutes - 13 Feb 2018

by Mai Ishikawa Sutton

Minutes from People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 13 February 2018 7:30pm-9pm - https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy Contents - 1 Agenda <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Agenda> - 2 Introductions <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Introductions> - 3 Meeting Roles <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Meeting_Roles> - 4 Check in on previous action items <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Check_in_on_previous_action_items> - 5 Updates & Reportbacks <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Updates_.26_Reportbacks> - 5.1 Bugs/Technical <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Bugs.2FTechnical> - 5.2 Node Mounts & Outreach <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Node_Mounts_.26_Outreach> - 5.3 Communications & Events <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Communications_.26_Events> - 5.4 Internal Logistics / Finance <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Internal_Logistics_.2F_Finance> - 6 Sundays <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Sundays> - 6.1 Node Mount <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Node_Mount> - 6.2 Office Hours <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Office_Hours> - 7 Proposal: Alameda Open Network <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Proposal:_Alameda_Open_Network> - 8 Proposal: Semi-synchronous Chat Options <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Proposal:_Semi-synchronous_Chat_…> - 9 Discussion: Preparation for People's Open Strategic Plan Meeting <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Discussion:_Preparation_for_Peop…> - 10 Discussion: PON Home Node and Exit Node Management <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Discussion:_PON_Home_Node_and_Ex…> - 11 related topic: makenode documentation/deprecation <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#related_topic:_makenode_document…> - 12 Action Items <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Action_Items> - 13 Breakout Groups <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Breakout_Groups> - 14 Last Meeting Notes <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#Last_Meeting_Notes> - 15 End of Meeting <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/13_Feb_2018#End_of_Meeting> Agenda - Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins) - Check in on previous action items (5 mins) - Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins) - Sundays (5 mins) - Proposal: Alameda Open Network Proposal (15 mins) - Proposal: Semi-synchronous Chat Options (10 mins) - Discussion: Preparation for the stategic plan meeting (10 mins) - Discussion: PON Home Node and Exit Node Management (20 mins) - Action Items (5 mins) - Breakout Groups Introductions Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements - Icebreaker question: Favorite candy - mai - she/they, favorite candy kit-kat, no announcements - jorrit - he/him, flashback to when he was 8, winegums? and Coke. - bengo - he him, they/them, special edition Y2K sweethearts - JJ - he/him - candied ginger - benny - he/they, likes sour patch watermelon gummie - sierk - chocolate cookies - Robb - he/him/they - candied ginger, SKOR bar - Grant - he /they - mentos - - jenny - she/her, not a candy person, dark chocolate, any annoucments, nope - Ben - he/they, dark chocolate, go to meet with Jeff tomorrow at 1pm (s of campus) - jehan - he/him - jelly beans, wants to help with tunnel Meeting Roles - Facilitator/s: Mai - Stacktaker: Robb - Notetaker/s: Benny, Grant, Jenny - URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes - Next meeting's facilitator(s): Check in on previous action items Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below: - create meeting agenda template (eg https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Delegates_Meeting_Notes_Template ) and archive nov-feb notes - jenny - see https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Template and https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes - re-ping lolspace & respond to julia (AJ+ contact) - jenny - pinged devie a couple of days ago to see if they would be interested, requested to check back in March, location is close to village, sped up timeline to be part of al jazeera feature - got positive reponse from AJ+, hoping to hear back from lolspace - jorrit - thanks, for listening to comments from last weeks meeting despite not being here - no reply from Devi yet (lolspace) - forwarded Julia's response to sudomesh signal group (folks seemed positive) - nyc mesh meetup - jehan - the meetup was in a bar, back patio, apparently their meetup schedule is not that regular, they have some but they are for particular purposes, this was a more general public meetup. The event started small, but grew and then turned into a panel discussion with the members of NYCmesh, they have a lot of inbound interest, a lot more than they can deal with. They don't look at individuals, but try to hook up entire building by talking to landlords. They are using a firmware, old custom build of QMP? SO they have trouble updating it, but it does work. They don't pay for bandwidth, they have a gigabit, average 50mbps with peak of 300mbps. They have ~1/3 or ~1/5 chance that people could get internet access. Using primarily Ubiquiti AirGrids Also hungout with some people in brooklyn who's internet access is through NYCmesh. Bandwidth just from one node in Manhattan. 5-8 inbounds a week -> 5-8 inbounds a day after press. - - jorrit - what wold you copy that they do there? - jehan - could be wrong about assessment, but having a high up node that can be connected to easily seems to have been very helpful to them. everyone who mails in, they reply, can you see the verizon building from your apartment? okay we can do it. [we have a harder process] - mai - do they have any mesh service? - jehan - there's a guy running a wiki from his house - previous meeting w/ nycmesh: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/05_July_2016 - send out doodle for budget/strategy meeting - mai - https://doodle.com/poll/ni5vmu5nvsdxpqip - mai - decided on 2pm on Saturday, Feb 17th Updates & Reportbacks Bugs/Technical Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-… - see helpwanted link - bug #8 - debugging exit node, - jorrit - seems to have figured out how to set up an exit node (in Germany!) poked around the actual exit node, saw some stuff that could be fixed - jorrit - feel like I'm looking at a house burning down - jorrit - will talk more about operations later - to fix bug #1, need to fix bug #8. made a quick script for creating exit node, want to explain to 3-4 other people. wants to do a breakout. - - grant - I really like "setting up an exitnode" as a sunday skill share. props! wondering--if a node is already up and never gets reset, how can you get root access once it's on their private internet? - jorrit - need to reproduce it - jenny - yar(sp?) says jorrit *does* have root access to the mesh exit node - - Bengo - are the trello links supposed to be closed? - jenny - invite only yeah, pasting link. - - jorrit and Bengo [exit node explanation] - jorrit - want to dispute netflix idea that netflix is blocking peoples open traffic - - grant - idea: other bugs, #2 and #13, can be fixed by documenting makenode - robb - recalls someone mentioning netflix doesn't allow vpn traffic - jorrit - need to test - jehan - no im positive that's it - jorrit - wants to see proof - jehan - could ask netflix, hey this is not a vpn ur confused; work with us Node Mounts & Outreach Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-… - ben - going to jeff's place tomorrow, if anyone would like to do a weekday mount? - sierk - grant and I are gonna do a survey at Ed's place. Also found another location within LOS to Driveway Follies, also talking with Biblioteca near LOLspace/Village - Communications & Events Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-… // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl… - mai - AJ+ already discussed - jenny - january 11th, people wanting to start mesh network in LA. who wants to follow up? - sierk - i could follow up--asked the person who asked me about it to e-mail, but they never got in touch Internal Logistics / Finance Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter… - INSURANCE: Will & Jenny have been trying to get a quote for Directors & Officers insurance. Last reply was 1/25 from Tracy @ Brignole & Ghiri: "I have not been successful in obtaining a quote for the Directors & Officers Liability coverage. I have either been declined by markets due to the business operations or a minimum premium of $15,000. I do have a request for the following: - Please forward your financials. If financials are not available do you have a budget? (Estimation of revenues and expenses)." - Budget Draft: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QJetruKfHrO5bpaLDk_smXYpLSvGlzytda_… - "What is your business plan. " - Biz Plan Draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H8x3JnbGEkoeE3CwMzrCC0MD1tIAhb6O8JjLsiC… - jenny - biz plan and budget draft just need to show that we've given them thought--doesn't have to be final - HELP WANTED on the above! - GOVT FILINGS: - Jenny sending CT-1 initial reg form to the Attorney General tmrw. Once approved we get a # and then have to file RRF-1s probably for 2014-2017. - Business Tax exemption - jnny can't remember if she did it form mesh when she did it for omni & sudo. will show up on the radar if/when we start making $$. will x-check - FINANCE: $1,187 in bank acct. - Mozilla requesting a W-9 - jenny will send tmrw w/ CT-1. - Still requesting equipment budget requests! Please add to the notes. - Setting up proper accounting this year - ping jnny if you're interested in helping/learning. - jenny - needs dollar amount from jorrit for cow/chicken reimbursement - bengo - what's better than a spreadsheet - jenny - would like to setup a quickbooks online - jorrit - what's your plan to help others to help you? Oracle of All Things Complicated - jenny - could send out a doodle - mai - something we could discuss on Saturday (strategic planning meeting) Sundays Node Mount We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays - Next Sunday's mount: Office Hours We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours - Next Sunday's volunteer: Benny, - Notes from this past Sunday's session: - Created new "Workshop" landing page for PeoplesOpen.net about BYOI https://peoplesopen.net/workshop.html - Cleaned up and added to Mounting Guide https://github.com/sudomesh/mounting - Creation of People's Open Network and Sudo Room pages on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Open_Network - Attempt at cleaning up SudoMesh wiki https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/wiki_cleanup help needed! - sierk wants to help out with wiki cleanup - Benny - is inserting peoplesopen site into disaster radio template Proposal: Alameda Open Network grant talked with Amos White this afternoon https://about.me/amoswhite - he is proposing to head up a large-scale, pratical roll out of a People's Open Network in Alameda and would like to hold workshop(s) very soon (he suggested starting Sat. Mar. 3) on how to go about doing this. could sync up well with on-going outreach in East Oakland and - - grant explained current state of the Oakland PON and various considerations he would have to think about (cost, LOS, volunteers, etc) - see email chain here https://trello.com/c/OLMqxcph/91-alameda-open-network - grant - I wanna know what people think of doing Alameda workshops with amos--practical stuff, getting/setting up antennas - jorrit - as you were talking, I was seeing them coming here to get trained (as opposed to us going there). can slowly segue into bigger event. - mai - do they have an internet access point? were they hoping we would provide that? - grant - i explained that he would have to look into what places in Oakland he had LOS to - robb - diane's has a perfect shot at alameda and richmond - jenny - still need to power the node - mai - is there anything we can do regarding the richmond tower? - jenny - the holdup is only that we need to coordinate with Jonah(sp?), probably buy new equipment to put up there, and do a site survey. they have a second tower that might have better LOS to the south. I've been putting in on the agenda, but I wasn't here for a bit. - mai - I think this would be a great thing to discuss at the strategic plan discussion. It's a great path forward. - jenny - I brought up determining a peering agreement to solidify our partnership--his only concern was that he didn't want to get tied into anything too serious in case they have to back out of the agreement - jorrit - we had a long discussion about that, and i think we decided that there would be no (peering) agreement - - Agreement was to not have any formal agreement - jorrit - re: Amos, first thing is to get him familiar with how stuff works. that can happen right away. e.g. by the time he has two nodes up and running, our exit node should be resolved. - robb - they should do a BYOI (in alameda) - jehan - if they can/want to pay for an uplink, they might be able to get an uplink through digital realty - right across from Digital Realty which is part of SFMIX (SF metropolitan internet exchange) - jorrit - i want to make sure we don't scare anyone away with our own fears (e.g. bugs we are fixing that they may never have to face) - ben - [questions about whether trees are blocking LOS from Diane -> Alameda] - mai - agree w/ jorrit that best way forward is to invite Amos to BYOI office hours. It's awesome that he sounds so enthusiastic. - grant - I also suggested office hours! (high five). I also liked robb's suggestion to get Alameda people organized. I tried to make it clear that we can't just hop on over and set everything up. But we can provide tools and knowledge so you can hold your own workshop. Can organize people in Alameda who are interested, bring them here, and we can train them about how to have their own workshops.Going to shoot him an e-mail tomorrow. Will reference notes. - jehan - is it safe to delete the peoplesopen.network email server? - jenny - that's the contact info for mozilla Proposal: Semi-synchronous Chat Options - Rocket.Chat at http://peoplesopen.net:3000 (NOT YET SECURE and maybe up/down, but will have demo running Tuesday night) - daniel & grant worked on it a bunch on sat, trying to set it up on a raspi - now set up on a DO droplet running ubuntu. - Let's Chat - had trouble running on sudomesh server - Mattermost - haven't tried - Matrix - haven't tried - sierk - what will it replace? - jenny - IRC, info@ emails - jehan - how does it compare to matrix? - grant - dunno--rocketchat had clear docs. - ben - am happy w/ mattermost at my home. it seems pretty similar. - x - also recommends Discord, for voicechat - Consenso? Do we wanna go ahead with another chat platform? - benny: get it minimally solid for us to try out - sierk: try it for a few months then we know what features are missing - we're-a test it out for awhile "get on there" - "if you don't wanna try it maybe you can get in there & let us know" - jehan Discussion: Preparation for People's Open Strategic Plan Meeting - How should we get input from people who can't attend the meeting? In order to also inform what our community would like to see out of PON. - Suggestions: Send out a survey before Saturday - proposal: mai - draft a form to send out tomorrow afternoon - inviting suggestions for what should be on survey, will post to signal group Discussion: PON Home Node and Exit Node Management Discuss/share current state of, and ideas regarding: patching home nodes, maintaining exit nodes and monitoring network health - jorrit - the reason for bringing this up is to get some ideas from the group on how to move forward on managing the network we love so much - there are two bits to it, the managment of the deployed nodes (home and extender) and management of the exit node - would like to first share how we do it today, right now we have one active person who has access to ssh and patch nodes - some months ago there was a the KRACK attack, that one person jumped up and fixed all the nodes - the exit node, there is are maybe one of two who are familiar with, jehan is one, no he isn't, ok there is one. Yar has access, but doesn't know what is running. - mai - was the propsal at the last update that you would spread that knowledge? - jorrit -that was the technical part, this is the organizational part - sierk - very relevant, mentioned something similar to grant, we get to the state that we have a lot to maintian and that people rely on, have a few volunteers who are active maintainers of services and repos. suggest we discuss this on saturday - point people for specific aspects - jorrit - for this discussion I wanna talk specifically about a plan of action once the old exit node goes up--do we patch the existing nodes? - jehan - we have nothing to lose - jorrit - but the one person who has acces to do it. - jenny - it's obviously problematic to have only one person with access to do this. it's currently the case because earlier, there was only one person sufficiently paranoid, competent, and gung-ho to do this. now we probably have more people who can have this responsibility. we need to come up with personal security protocols for system administration. - jorrit - what I'm hearing from you is that we're okay with remote management of home nodes (if people consent) - grant - current state of network is remote patching with opt-out--you need to know that you can opt-out before you can opt-out. this is a bug in previous firmware. i vote for, with new firmware, you need to opt-in to being open to remote fixes/updates. - jorrit - what I'm hearing from grant is that you want explicit opt-in. - jenny - I also like this. - jehan - right now there are people out there w/ open wifi hotspots that are using their home internet connection. we should definitely remote in to fix this. - grant - this is related to the "document makenode" issue. I'm documenting makenode right now so it will be easier to make these firmware changes we're talking about. - mai - seems like if we have a mailing list of people who have nodes, then we should let them know about the bug (if they're providing open wifi access to their internet) for the sake of transparency. in that same e-mail, we should let them know that we're working on this issue, and we can help them fix it themselves, or we can fix it for them remotely. Reaching out to them is in the nature and spirit of this project. Letting them be empowered to fix it themselves, or choose to let us do it for them. That's my communication suggestion. - sierk - Similar to Mai, but more long term--are we going to discuss this elsewhere, because there are some details... it will take some time. new mailing list? - mai - definitely should discuss on saturday - ben - very little to lose by giving other people agency about the bug. more of a problem if people don't know and something happens. - jenny - only issue i see is that we do not have a mailing list of node operators. - jorrit - sounds like we have consensus about what to communicate but not how. I stil want to get consensus on whether we should proactively remotely patch things if we can. - grant - bug number 1? yes we should remote patch. but we should discuss whether to remote patch all other bugs. - mai - are we going to say that we're going to fix it proactively? - jorrit - i want to separate (1) that we are going to proactively patch and (2) that we are going to send an e-mail to operators - grant - we did this in september--marc got some, didn't get others. in the past i have sent an e-mail to the list. - Possible Plan: Get exit node up, fix the code, update firmware on existing nodes,, then: - update firmware with opt-in process for remote maintenance - establish protocol for those with remote access Should we remote-patch Bug #1? - Mai: Does this entail we let them know beforehand? - Jorrit: No, we'd just patch it. Send an email. - Aye: Grant, Jenny ??? we are evidently unable to move onto decision-making-moment :P :) - Nay: - Abstain: - - ben - how long does a mount take? - robb - it's usually like 6 hours. could probably do it in 3. related topic: makenode documentation/deprecation (announcement): Anyone wanna help document makenode? see https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/makenode - also https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Makenode Action Items - Send CT-1 and W-9 - Jenny - Follow up on D&O Insurance - Jenny, ? - Reply to Julia / AJ+ - Jenny - Move peoplesopen.network emails to new Migadu server - Jenny/Jehan - Get rocket.chat secure and persistent on sudomesh server - grant - Draft group consensus and send to Amos White - grant - Send survey to mailing list ahead of strategic meeting - mai - Weekday node mount with Jeff 12pm Wednesday - Ben, mai, grant Breakout Groups At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics. - Exit Node Debug: Jorrit, mai, grant, bengo, benny Last Meeting Notes https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/06_Feb_2018 End of Meeting - please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki - then please erase the contents of this pad - then please cut & paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Temp… - previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes

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