The post about the Wired inquiry reminds me:
The SF Bay chapter of the Internet Society has a web site -- sfbayisoc.org
-- and guest blog posts are invited.
Would someone like to write a piece about the project?
I'm sure one of the longer-term members/founders of sudoroom would do a
better, more succinct job than me.
it would be a way of getting word out to our members.
If anyone's interested, let me know.
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Recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/02_May_2017
*people's open network hacknight - 02 May 2017*
= intros =
* jehan: I'm the guy who brings the five-pack. I've been working on the
email server and sorta made some progress with some help from marc. running
for @peoplesopen.network.
** also researching ipv4/ipv6 for fun
*** marc: going down rabbit holes... both email & ipv6 are headaches
* daniel: what about spam filters etc?
** jehan: using mail-in-a-box that has a …
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* grant: working on the firmware, kinda done. need to do more testing on
the extender node firmware. also messing around with the esp286's a bunch.
programming in C and learning a lot
* scott: no updates
* bullitt: playing with ssb (secure scuttlebutt) on raspis and such. not
working for me. last weekend got on a roof and helped with installing a
physical node.
* jenny: there was $400 in our paypal account that paypal was gonna steal
due to inactivity but saved it. ~$169 for officers and directors insurance
* lesley: i am lesley and this past week helped install a roofnode.
substack helped me get a patchwork pub server running on the sudo room
sever (the one hosted in sudo room and accessible from the internet)
* eve: only useful thing i've done this week is get an adapter so i can
help daniel with ?. playing with arduino's. wanna make it flash pretty
lights
* jeff: also trying to set up a patchwork pi thing. interested in roof
mounting
* jonas: i'm not sure what you do. i have interest in mesh networking and
have been using esp8266 for two years. a year ago i wrote a lisp
interpreter for it. i really think mesh networking would be interested. i
want to use the esp to build a computer keyboard from scratch using wood
keys and microswitches. encoding is done by diodes. trying to build a
circuit board. i want to build a wifi home computer from an ESP.
* daniel: i'm helping with little things here and there. tonight I'm
planning to continue working on the equipment we got donated last week
which is to update the wireless controller and update all the APs via the
controller. I was mentioning to jenny earlier today that with this donation
we have the opportunity to install APs all over the building (we have 28).
** jehan: think it's a great idea, no problem w/ proprietary software
they're just APs
* juul: worked on DisasterRadio a bit this week. LoRa radios connected to
esp8266. can't use two serial ports simultaneously. made a telnet console
and implemented a web console. now you can console in and as soon as you
open the telnet or web console it talks to the chip. dhcp working, dns for
the most part. also a web server serving up a web app. so the plumbing is
working! now just to deploy a small chat and/or map app.
** jehan: doesn't it have a super long range?
*** juul: urban range around 3 miles. low bandwidth, very low power. 900
mhz, small packet size. Can use it for mapping out resources in a disaster
scenario.
** jonas:
** markus: part of omni welcoming group. attending hardware hacknight.
* Marc: $900-1500/month for gigabit connection from LMI, can install
hardware on the roof
** jehan: lot of money off the bat. network not in a very advanced state,
can get more practice building out network around the omni
** lesley: cumulatively that's $12-18K/yr, what about instead investing in
a server that would host some of the most commonly visited sites on the
network
*** marc: wouldn't cost any money, we have stacks of unused servers
** jehan: more you buy the less you pay, economically logical
* main link would be gigabit, spread it out at like 300mbps connections.
can spread it out enough that we can get enough people to donate monthly.
there'd be a lag, maybe 6 months, where we'd be paying out of pocket
** jeff: how many people to make it economical? like 20 people?
** jehan: lots of interest but not that much geographical
** promising leads other than LMI: BART and Laney College
= agenda =
== entity structure ==
* straw poll +1s for OOC 501c3: Eve, Lesley, Grant, Jorrit
* reservations: juul
* jenny will ask Jesse this week and report back at next meeting
= breakout groups =
* patchwork: lesley/bullitt/jenny/jefdaj
* gate: daniel/eve
* debug front door computer: lesley/jenny/jake
* ESP boards and related: juul/jonas/grant/scott
= action items =
* ping spaghettinight mailing list [jenny]
* contact IT person at Peralta Colleges re: Laney node - Daniel will
investigate
* get a panorama from LMI - ??
* email Jesse re: taking over OOC or submitting a 1023EZ app [jenny]
* send out login instruction for email server [jehan]
= misc link dump =
* Mapping businesses by neighborhood to reach out to:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oAehFc60w-hS4rhk0ZZhqb_IDqNsb8TopPo…
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Jenny
Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
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-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
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>> So let me get this straight- home nodes advertise their /26, which is how
>> the network knows how to get return traffic back to any given client?
>>
>> Wouldn't giving clients ipv6 addresses result in the problems with many of
>> the ipv4 only protocols that were mentioned at the start of the thread?
>>
>>
> Yes if we give them only IPv6 addresses but we want them to have both.
but if the mesh relied on IPV6 for everything, then couldn't the …
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IPV4 masquerading to IPV6 and they wouldn't need their own /26 because you
could have identical IPV4 addresses on different home nodes that way?
meaning, the IPV4 address given by DHCP by a home node is only for that node to
talk to that client, and everything goes out over IPV6 from node to node and to
the exit node (where it does reverse masquerading to the internet for IPV4
traffic)
does this make sense? i know it would be a lot of work but maybe it's a good
path forward.. and it simplifies some things, for example no more need to
coordinate 100./26 IPV4 subnets between home nodes... you could use the home
node's MAC address for its IPV6 subnet.
-jake
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This popped up on my radar:
http://irregulators.org/
"The IRREGULATORS is an independent consortium of retired and semi-retired
telecom experts, analysts, policy wonks, forensic auditors, and lawyers who
are former senior staffers from the FCC, state advocate and Attorneys
General Office experts and lawyers, as well as former telco consultants.
Members of the group have been working together, in different
configurations, since 1999."
They're giving away a book that claims to contradict a …
[View More]fake alternate
history being promulgated by the FCC
*:*http://irregulators.org/bookbrokenpromises/
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marc/juul
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Hello folks,
I meant to bring it up during our tonight's meeting, but because I am not
sure that I can make it I may as well forward the email to our list.
Thanks!
D
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Marcus Zamani* <lifenowreborn(a)gmail.com>
Date: Monday, May 1, 2017
Subject: [omni-discuss] Another House Clean-Out/Omni Beautification
To: discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org, commons <commons(a)lists.omnicommons.org>,
consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org
Omni -
As a …
[View More]member of the Welcoming WG and lover of clean, beautiful, organized
spaces I am organizing another Omni Sale/Giveaway. This time I am going to
market the day as a “Pay What You Can Sale”. My intent is to get as much
stuff out by giving it away and people can pay whatever they can in a
donation jar on their way out.
I’m thinking of having it 3 - 4 weeks from now.
That said, it is imperative if you have stuff in Omni common areas that you
pick it up WITHIN the next THREE WEEKS, otherwise you are agreeing to
donate the item(s) to Omni.
If your collective has stuff in common areas and wants to keep it but you
can’t move it to its final home before the sale, you must clearly label it.
All personal items must be removed, there is no personal storage at the
Omni.
DO NOT bring stuff in for this sale!!!
The last giveaway back in August was a great success and effectively
cleaned-out the basement. I am shooting to see the basement emptied out
again and ready for a tenant.
Contact me if you have any questions or want to help,
Marcus
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Daniel
Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
WhatsApp: 415.336.9143 <https://www.whatsapp.com/download/>
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I had thought that it might be more professional if we were able to email
people from @peoplesopen.net addresses instead of just using our personal
addresses. The current peoplesopen.net email setup is that there are
forwarding rules (you can receive mail on a @peoplesopen.net address), but
you can't send it. To be able to send emails, we need an email server.
I've set up mailinabox on a ubuntu server, it's a pretty good combo of
dovecot, a webmail interface, some spam stuff, and an admin …
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status checks. It will even automatically get letsencrypt certificates.
However, setting up the DNS has proven to be very hard for me to get right.
I've set up DNS for email and websites before, but never on such a complex
setup with so many domains and things that need to keep working.
I've tried a bunch of stuff, but either webmail doesn't work, forwarding
doesn't work, or all emails from the server end up in the spam folder. Marc
has been helping me, since he has control of the DNS, but I don't want to
bother him too much if it's not a priority for him.
I'm wondering if anyone who is experienced with email and/or DNS wants to
hack on this email server with me, maybe Tuesday before or during the
meeting. If nobody is interested, I'll probably drop it for now and we can
keep using personal email addresses.
-Jehan
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