City council will be voting on a proposed shelter crisis declaration on Oct
3rd - intro of the proposal is taking place at tonight's city council
meeting. This would ensure a cessation of evictions of camps in sanctioned
spaces. I know they just shut down the camp at San Pablo & Grand, and
purportedly the one at 6th & Brush this morning. We could definitely reach
the folks under the overpass at 35th & Adeline/Peralta.
However, First They Came for the Homeless at the Here&There …
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sanctioned by Berkeley, and we have contacts there requesting a node. We
may be able to reach them from a friend's house slightly northwest. I will
follow up inabit.
On Sep 19, 2017 4:01 PM, <cowlicks(a)riseup.net> wrote:
(disclaimer: I'm out of town for two weeks, I'd like to work on this
when I get back)
Hey y'all, would anyone be interested in trying to provide WiFi to
homeless encampments?
I realize right now we are focused on building the network, but when we
are ready, I think serving homeless encampments would be nice because it
would be a great service for people with (potentially) a low cost for
us. There are several encampments around Oakland that are in strategic
locations for nodes to, like MLK and Grand, Broadway and 7th.
Does anyone know of good potential locations?
Cheers,
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<snip>
Date: Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:41 PM
Subject: Monitor is UP: PONExitNode2 (Aug 06, 2017)
<snip>
Hi,
The monitor PONExitNode2 (Aug 06, 2017) (http://45.34.140.42) is back UP
(HTTP 200 - OK) (It was down for 20 minutes and 16 seconds).
<snip>
> On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 22:30 -0700, Jorrit Poelen wrote:
> > Hey y'all meshers:
> > Please help spread the word by:
> > Print flyers and distribute them (or design your own!) -
I printed flyers, will put them up in the coming days (Temescal, Elmwood,
south Campus, downtown Berkeley).
(If I put them up more than a week in advance, they will be covered by
other flyers ;| )
I'm planning to go to the net neutrality rally at Galvanize (6-7pm).
Thanks for the reminder about Noisebridge, I will try to be one of the
first 150 people :)
>
>
> From: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>
>
> Tomorrow several of us are going to this event at noisebridge
> <https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_10_Year_
> Anniversary_Exhibition_and_Ball#LIVE_DISCUSSION_WITH_SUPER_SPECIAL_GUEST>
> and will miss the meeting (or maybe arrive around 10pm).
>
>
>
Tomorrow several of us are going to this event at noisebridge
<https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Noisebridge_10_Year_Anniversary_Exhibition_and…>
and will miss the meeting (or maybe arrive around 10pm).
We are working on Disaster Radio every Monday evening at sudo room in
preparation for the NSF/WINS deadline. Maybe we can have a brief update
tonight from the people who won't be there tomorrow (which includes me)?
Feel free to show up tonight even if you're working on people's open net
and …
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--
marc/juul
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Hello all,
Due to a lack of outdoor ethernet cable and not having a great location
lined up, we are canceling this week's node mount. Instead, some of us will
be meeting at sudoroom Sunday afternoon to hack on various projects,
including, but not limited to: disaster radio, peoplesopen website, and
workshop-related stuff. If you would like to help out or learn more about
how you can help out on any of these, come by sudoroom on Sunday.
thx,
-grant
Hey y'all meshers -
I just stumbled across this article that reminded me of our project -
Tactical Urbanism: https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/2017/09/01/tac
tical-urbanism/ .
To me, it was another example of the overlap between public libraries
and sudomesh.
-jorrit
The question sent today to the Signal group instead of this list:
Question: *Is there a reason why the PON node's web GUI login is done in
plain text and not via https?*
*I just noticed that.*
*Answers I got so far:*
Person 1 answer: *"Nodes have private IP addresses and you cannot issue
trusted SSL certificates for them."*
Person 2 answer:
*"Because self-signed certificates generate nasty warnings that are not
user friendly. Can we please use the mailing list for things that don't
require …
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My follow up:
Thank you for your replies.
But definitely I would prefer the "nasty warnings" from self assigned certs
than sending the password in plain text, imo.
Nowadays smart TVs and what not invading our homes gives not much of room
for non encrypted traffic.
--
Daniel
Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
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Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
https://omnicommons.org/donate
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Hi y'all,
A few of us have been hacking on the peoplesopen.net website, attempting to
improve the content, flow, and general presentation of information*. *This
has been long overdue and are looking for all the input we can get. If you
would like to share your comments on the website, we are currently working
out of https://pad.riseup.net/p/meshguides.
This effort was triggered by recent comments from a friend of mine for whom
we installed a node. For posterity (and with his permission), I'm …
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portions of my email conversation with him regarding node mounting and the
website. I responded to his questions and concerns, but I'm hoping they get
people thinking about what improvements could be made to our website and
how we do outreach. Read his comments at your leisure.
Thanks,
-grant
```
Hi Grant, The [solar panel installers] were here today...I got the idea to
go up on the roof to photograph them and put a story about the company on
Facebook as I do occasionally to spread the word about something I want to
promote. I was surprised when they objected, not to me taking pictures but
of the Facebook part, but only because they weren't wearing their special
belts and anchoring safety ropes when I photographed...I got to thinking
about your antenna installation. I told my neighbor about what you do and
he seemed interested so I'll send him the web site. I also asked the solar
man if he'd heard about your group .He said he had but didn't know much
about it. I went on to ask about whether home owners would be concerned
about liability and people going up on their roofs. The solar company has
insurance for protection of worker and home owner but I doubt your group
pays for that. I'm not worried about this - I can easily go up on the roof
if I want and see where you are and what you're doing but most home owners
never go up on her own roofs. You should consider getting some kind of
legal waver to sign and get signed by people when you go up on a roof. You
may have already done this but thought I should mention it.
*```*``
*`*I just got some feedback from [my friend], one of two people (my nephew
is the other one) to whom I sent the web site to in hopes that they could
explain it to me. [He] is quite intellectual and I trust him to be able to
understand many things I could never hope to get. He said he had doubts or
didn't understand that what you're offering or providing is the same
internet with the exact same features as the regular internet. He also
didn't understand why someone would want to subscribe to it. This isn't in
the spirit of putting it down but I think the web site needs some adjusting
so that it can be more clear and streamlined.
*``````*
This is the explanation of the system my nephew sent me today. I hope you
don't mind me sharing it with you for when you get a chance. I know it's
very dumbed down. I told him I understood it except for two questions that
remain : Should I expect at some point to get the internet via a different
system (company ) than I do now ? How is the connection rendered ? How do I
pay for the connection? But I haven't looked at the link he sent me yet.
"So I looked this over, and it is what I thought. I'll try my best to
explain it:
I'll assume that you are familiar with home wireless networks. In those
networks, you pay an Internet Service Provider (ISP) like Comcast or AT&T
for a pipe to the internet. You then connect that pipe to some hardware
that broadcasts the internet to multiple wireless devices.
In this "mesh" network they are setting up, the concept is similar. They
set-up hardware on lots of people's roofs to broadcast the internet to
local devices. These roof-top antennas are connected to one another by a
different wireless transmission method, generally a line-of-sight,
one-to-one connection. They call this roof-top network a "mesh" because
that's what it looks like when you draw lines between the roof-top antennas
and view it from above. Large companies often have a huge pipe to the
internet, many times larger than homes, allowing them to share some of
their internet access with the mesh network for others to use.
The idea behind some of these networks is to install enough antennas that
they can cover many homes and offer their internet to low-income
individuals for very low prices. Because of the cost of hardware, they rely
on the charity of others. Also they need to ask people to install the
hardware on their roofs."
```
```
I think selling this as a way to donate to the less fortunate might be
hard. I don't mind paying for the cost of the antenna but think most
people are going to want to benefit from it directly. It would be a little
like going to the March of Dimes and being told, "You can donate to birth
defects but first we have a suggested donating fee". You've probably told
me all this before and it went in one ear and out the other, but what is
your favorite reason for doing it, for example, does your group have a list
a charities that you want to help get internet ? Is it for building
community and if so what kind of community ?
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Hello everyone,
Voting begins September 1st for the National Geographic chasing genius
grants, and Sudoroom has a submission in the running:
The GardenMesh
http://www.natgeochasinggenius.com/video/2082
Please view and like the video, it really helps our chances of being
chosen!
Thank you!
-Mario
Can't make it to Mesh tonight -- sorry about that. My schedule is filling
up around this time due to school starting.
Maybe next week though, although a little late (8ish?). As always I'll be
looking forward to it!
Happy Meshing to everybody!
Tom
Hi y'all,
We have another node mount scheduled for this Sunday, 8/27, at 2pm! This is
a brand new peoplesopen node located in the Oakland Hills overlooking
Trestle Glen near the Grand Avenue commercial area. We are going to need
some help transporting equipment, flashing nodes, running wires, and
interacting with humans. If you would like more details either email me
directly or request access to peoplesopen.net/sundays.
-grant
Hello gardenmeshers!
I was contacted this weekend by Isabel Technologies, a company that wants
to use technology to help solve food scarcity, because they like the idea
of the gardenmesh project.
Ruben graciously offered to come to the meeting tonight at 8pm and give a
presentation on the business, it may help us think about what a potential
customer like Isabel might be looking for in a device like gardenmesh.
Please check out the links in his forwarded email, and let me know if you
have …
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Cheers,
-Mario
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From: "Ruben Santa" <santa(a)isabel.io>
Date: Aug 20, 2017 20:34
Subject: Intro
To: <mgabiati(a)gmail.com>
Cc: "Eric Hager" <eric(a)isabel.io>
Mario, great connecting earlier. I've cc'd my co-founder Eric in this
email. Looking forward to connecting in person on Tuesday. Below are a few
links about Isabel.io for reference. Talk soon.
www.isabel.iowww.instagram.com/isabel.io
-Ruben
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