- mesh - sudoroom.org

by Morgan Allen

For hardware hack night tonight I will be bringing some of these new fangled ESP8266 boards, you may have heard of them. https://hackaday.com/tag/esp8266/ *Why are these things so cool?* Welp, they're a 80mhz CPU, with at least 512k flash memory, built in Wifi, are flashed with a serial connection and they cost about $4-5. For the last week I've been working on sudo-clock ( http://github.com/morganrallen/sudo-clock) with the ESP8266 at its core. Robb was surprised to find out that not only are these Wifi modules that can be used with a separate micro, but can have custom firmware loaded on them. Soo.... yeah. If you are interesting in checking these nifty things out come hack with us tonight! I'll have 2-3 devices available, bring a USB->serial adapter if you have one but I should have enough. Check out the wiki here for info on getting the software toolchain setup. It is fairly straight forward if the instruction in the Toolchain section are followed. https://github.com/esp8266/esp8266-wiki/wiki -- http://ithoughtyouweretherobot.com Metal and Wire http://nolonelyguineapigs.com/ Wandering and Rambling http://morglog.org Old and Neglected. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007 Comment: http://openpgpjs.org xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praKPaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3 AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmXJQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohpCbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAAD7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFNNmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRej3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtTN3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwPj2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7/ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg== =V/Ia -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Richmond tower update

by Paige Peterson

Hi all - an update to mention I'm reconnecting with Richmond based non-profit Building Blocks for Kids to discuss best ways to integrate People's Open Network with the community out here. Per our discussions a few weeks ago, the plan is to show Ralph from Internet Archive that SudoMesh is worth collaborating with so he will open up access to their free wifi tower to spread via mesh instead of limiting it to just the few repeaters they have set up already. My goals will be to: -find out where the few repeaters are now and how we can hook into/extend their access -find the best ways to outreach to this area for a group of people willing and able to maintain a test deployment (and obv bring them by SudoRoom for a mesh meeting, etc) I plan to meet with Teresa from their Digital access team next week at BBK offices in Richmond. If anyone wants to join, let me know. Perhaps it would be nice to bring some nodes to show? Finally, sorry for being MIA at meetings the past couple weeks - life things getting in the way causing various stages of overwhelmed head space triggering reclusive tendencies. I *will* be back... hopefully with some folks in Richmond interested in testing/maintaining a mesh out here. Peace -Paige

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2nd Annual Board Mtg Minutes

by Jenny Ryan

Recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/15_September_2015 ChrisJ & MaxB, we re-elected you to the board. Let me know if you'd like to be removed! Welcome Pete and Arlo to the sudomesh BoD! *sudo mesh annual board meeting, 15 sep 2015* We are meeting in La Commune! =Attendees= * Jenny, Pete, Jeremy, Jake, Marc, Matt * Came late: Mitar and his friend Jake =Discussion= * Pete: You can be a sharer or a recipient of sharing * Pete: Fundamentally about being in a participatory community * Pete: Did you ever try to set up a tin can phone as a friend? [image overlay of tin can phone lines across oakland] * Jenny shows Pete our video. He digs it. J suggests we could do more videos, short 30-second/1-minute 'PSA' style clips tailored to different audiences * Jeremy: Would like to do more presentations at schools to recruit more young coders. Anyone else interested in co-presenting? * Pete's neighbor found the peoplesopen network and cancelled his service :D looked up the project and was stoked, contacted pete offering to share the costs =Proposals= ==New Board of Directors== * Remove: Lilia, Luis * Re-elected: Jenny, Marc, Jeremy, Jake, Matt, ChrisJ, MaxB * New Directors: Pete, Arlo Consenso: 5/5 ==Becoming a fiscally-sponsored project of the Omni== * Could help Omni achieve 33% charitable income as required of a 501c3 * Sudo Room might achieve 501c3 status more quickly * Jenny's also filled out most of our 501c3 nonprofit application if we'd like to go that rought * Proposal: Delegate this task to Jenny Consenso: 5/5 ==Election of Officers== * President: Jenny Ryan * Secretary: Pete Forsyth * Treasurer: Marc Juul Consenso: 5/5 =Post-meeting discussion on events we'd like to organize= * BACH Unconference - Bay Area Consortium of Hackerspaces 3rd annual Unconference. Visit http://ba.chgrp.org/ to learn more and join the mailing list if you'd like to participate! * Hackmeet - Matt has the domain hackmeet.net - Interested in hosting european-style 'hackmeets' to work on building solutions to tangible real-world problems, hacktivism * Open Alternatives conference - 18-21 March 2016 ** Paige and Jenny have been discussing organizing a 'decentralized tech' conference ** Marc is interested in expanding the scope to 'Open Alternatives' and inviting participation from Counter Culture Labs and other groups & projects working on open technologies and building alternatives to the current system ** Battlemesh track over the week ** Distributed / decentralizing tech track ** Biosensors track ** Failcon - sharing stories of failure in community organizing ** 50% maximum techies ** Overlap of technical and nontechnical tracks ** Block party / Creating Commons-style *** Phat Beets is interested in helping * Name ideas: Creating Commons, Creating Alternatives, Decentralized Alternatives, Forging a Commons, Growing a Commons, Collective Liberation, Collective Conference, Flock Together, The Humans Conference, Open Alternatives -- Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Annual Sudo Mesh Board Meeting: September 15th, 7:30pm

by Jenny Ryan

I won't bore you with the bureaucratic details and the imminent necessity of filing for tax-exempt status so we don't have to pay #1K+ in business taxes, but we need to have a 2015 board meeting. As a reminder, the following are those who are on our Board of Directors: * MaxB * ChrisJ * Marc * Jenny * Matt * Jeremy * Luis * Jake * Lilia If you wish to be removed from the board, or you would like to be on the board, please reply to this thread. Let me know if you can make it in person or attend remotely on the pad. Yours in bureaucracy-wrangling, Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Fwd: Re: [sudo-info] my new diy platform

by eric maundu

more inline comments on spec's. On Sep 13, 2015 3:55 PM, "danarauz(a)gmail.com <mailto:danarauz@gmail.com>" <danarauz(a)gmail.com <mailto:danarauz@gmail.com>> wrote: i almost forgot to add the sudo discuss and mesh email lists. thx! d. On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 3:51 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <mailto:danarauz@gmail.com> <danarauz(a)gmail.com <mailto:danarauz@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Eric, Thanks for reaching out with the donation. I imagine some Sudoers may be interested. It sounds like a good idea for hands on teaching tool. If you don't mind, can you please let us know the following: 0- How many servers are they? >>enough 1- Can you please provide the Servers' hardware configuration (Brand, Model, CPU, RAM)? >>dell 2- Do the Servers include their rails? >>the rack ... i can't recall where i put the rails (but everything sits on top of one another) 3- What kind of rack type is it 2 or 4 post? Threaded or square >>the kind for servers 4- Hard disks: --Speed: 5400RPM? 7200RPM? 15000RPM? --Size: 3.5? 2.5? --Type: IDEE? SATA? SSD? etc. i>> don't even know what this is ... but the configuration offers a high availability, fault tolerance, parallel access and raw data access Many thanks in advance! Daniel On 9/13/15 2:04 AM, eric maundu wrote: > hey guys, > hope well. > i still need to come and do a presentation on how i think is > the best way to do supervisory control. > in the mean time. > i have a server rack i think i want to donate to you guys as i > don't seem to be using it ... its a full rack with a bunch of > 1u and 2u servers, switches, and tons of hard drives. > this is fun for folks trying to learn hardcore linux ... as > well as backups etc. > let me know if you all are interested. > thanks, > -m > > > On 01/14/2015 04:07 AM, Marc Juul wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:05 AM, eric maundu >> <emaundu(a)kijanigrows.com <mailto:emaundu@kijanigrows.com>> wrote: >> >> http://www.kijanigrows.com/topics/v2-smart-controller/ >> presented twice with make:sf in oakland and techshop >> http://www.meetup.com/makesf/events/219404155/ >> presenting shortly with counter culture >> >> it is an open platform i built that comes with open tools >> that i am working on. >> i don't specifically have any licenses yet if this is >> your question >> >> it is the same platform i use to teach diy IoT classes >> with - only with a focus on programming as compared to >> electronics in the v1 series >> >> >> Looks cool! You can request an event at The Omni (our new >> location) here: >> >> https://omnicommons.org/occupy/ >> >> And you can email the sudo room mailing list when you have >> the date and time: >> >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> -- >> marc/juul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Info mailing list > Info(a)lists.sudoroom.org <mailto:Info@lists.sudoroom.org> > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/info -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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no sudomesh meeting this week? (there's a board meeting instead)

by Romy Ilano

i'm assuming there's no sudomesh meeting this week right? it's only for the board? ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

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Greetings from Bolivia

by Sergio Guillen Mantilla

Hello friends of Sudoroom, I am Sergio one member of the hacklab r00tHouse from Bolivia. I send you this mail to comment you that we started working on a project that is a mesh network. We want to make a network that communicates our city (it is not a big city) and we started working on it. We decided to use Batman-adv as the routing protocol and OpenWRT and some weeks ago looking for some documentation we found your wiki and looked that you decided to stop using Batman-adv because of some issues. We are concerned of which were those issues. I don't know if you can tell us your experiences with Batman-adv and the reasons you stopped using it and why you decided to go with Babel routing protocol. What batman-adv version were you using? We are using OpenWRT Attitude Adjustment with the 2012 batman-adv version. Saludos desde Bolivia

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Re: [Mesh] [sudo-info] my new diy platform

by danarauz＠gmail.com

i almost forgot to add the sudo discuss and mesh email lists. thx! d. On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 3:51 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Eric, > > Thanks for reaching out with the donation. > > I imagine some Sudoers may be interested. > It sounds like a good idea for hands on teaching tool. > > If you don't mind, can you please let us know the following: > 0- How many servers are they? > 1- Can you please provide the Servers' hardware configuration (Brand, > Model, CPU, RAM)? > 2- Do the Servers include their rails? > 3- What kind of rack type is it 2 or 4 post? Threaded or square > 4- Hard disks: --Speed: 5400RPM? 7200RPM? 15000RPM? --Size: 3.5? 2.5? > --Type: IDEE? SATA? SSD? etc. > > Many thanks in advance! > > Daniel > > > On 9/13/15 2:04 AM, eric maundu wrote: > > hey guys, > hope well. > i still need to come and do a presentation on how i think is the best way > to do supervisory control. > in the mean time. > i have a server rack i think i want to donate to you guys as i don't seem > to be using it ... its a full rack with a bunch of 1u and 2u servers, > switches, and tons of hard drives. > this is fun for folks trying to learn hardcore linux ... as well as > backups etc. > let me know if you all are interested. > thanks, > -m > > > On 01/14/2015 04:07 AM, Marc Juul wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:05 AM, eric maundu <emaundu(a)kijanigrows.com> > wrote: > >> http://www.kijanigrows.com/topics/v2-smart-controller/ >> presented twice with make:sf in oakland and techshop >> http://www.meetup.com/makesf/events/219404155/ >> presenting shortly with counter culture >> >> it is an open platform i built that comes with open tools that i am >> working on. >> i don't specifically have any licenses yet if this is your question >> >> it is the same platform i use to teach diy IoT classes with - only with a >> focus on programming as compared to electronics in the v1 series >> > > Looks cool! You can request an event at The Omni (our new location) here: > > https://omnicommons.org/occupy/ > > And you can email the sudo room mailing list when you have the date and > time: > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > -- > marc/juul > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Info mailing listInfo@lists.sudoroom.orghttps://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/info > > > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Meeting notes from 9/8 & 9/1!

by Jenny Ryan

Last week's monthly organizing meeting notes are here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/01_September_2015 This week's weekly organizing meeting notes recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/08_September_2015 sudo mesh weekly organizing meeting, 8 sep 2015 =attendees= * juul - developer * jehan - wants to learn more about the practical * maxb - We've been eating the dogfood and it's been tasting pretty good: http://192.241.217.196/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=45 * siavash - saw it on the calendar, background in telecommunications, gsm, transmission related, worked with ericsson in iraq/iran * captain morgan - programmer, likes linux, has a node at his house * jenny - really happy to not have any responsibilities to do with anything else in the building tonight, working on community stuff, outreach and documentation * mo bala =battlemesh report-back= * https://sudoroom.org/weaving-together-a-network-of-networks-report-from-bat… * video of talks coming online here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxfh-2aOR5hZUjxJLQ2CIHw Ryan, Paige and Jenny did a bunch of interviews with representatives of as many community networks as they could find. Their goal was to get the origin story of each of the networks, Challenges that they faced and advice for people who were just starting a network. Musti has helped create a hackerspace in Maribor called KreatorLab and is focusing on creating a set of standards for documenting open hardware. There's a guy called Dave Taht in Los Gatos who works with the IETF who works on standards for the internet. He developed a bunch of the bufferbloat stuff in cerowrt. Jenny recommends his presentations. =Networking Simulation= If someone wants to implement a babeld implementation for ns3 (network simulator): https://www.nsnam.org/docs/release/3.23/doxygen/modules.html =where did our stuff go? (theft)= * Bunch of PoE injectors, ethernet cables, and hard drives taken by this guy named 'Manny' or Manual who will say he has an agreement with Jake to take our e-waste =community outreach & communications= * Jehan made a diagram to help developers get oriented * Need to update Nic's brochure and print a bunch * Would be rad to design something like 'Open Wifi by People's Open Network' - window stickers for houses, laser-cut signs for public areas like community gardens =update on fcc ruling= * Do peruse http://savewifi.org ! * Folks on the mailing list are putting together a Comment template that will be pushed by the EFF ** Join the list: http://lists.prplfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fcc * Comment deadline is Oct. 9th. Would be good to post something as sudomesh / People's Open Network. Marc started something here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/fccthing =bureaucracy situation= * We're filing a 3500 CA nonprofit tax exemption form to demonstrate we shouldn't pay taxes * Also our annual Statement of Information is due November. Jenny finished it but we still need to pay the $20 fee. =action items= * Set up beta node at LiveLabs & test accessibility of documentation [jenny] * Pay Statement of Information fee [Jenny/Marc] * Send 3500 form [Jenny] * Send svg of developer orientation packet or upload to website [Jehan] * Configure and mount the remainder of omni's routers [Marc/Morgan] -- Cheers, Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Labor Day Block Party / Hackathon

by Mo Balaa

hey Ya'll, There's a Labor Day block party at Ellsworth and Blake in Berkeley. I'm working on deploying wifi coverage for the event with 2 stock pico stations. Come enjoy the food and live music. Sorry for the late notice. Should be a good time. Give me a holler 831.824.4164 Mo

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Re: [Mesh] [sudo-discuss] Can someone, please, donate $ to buy Acoustic Caulk to repair the Ballroom south wall? (Picts)

by danarauz＠gmail.com

I never seen/used it myself, but it looks like as described by Joe. Joe is out of town for a week. Not sure if he is checking email. I texted Rob asking to check his email and confirm. Thanks, Charley! daniel On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 22:43:58 -0700 > "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > You don't have to buy it yourself, but if you prefer, according to > > our more experienced Omni member sheet rock installer (Joe), the > > acoustic caulk that we should get is the one made by OSI. It costs > > about $8 each. > > Is this the right stuff? > > http://is.gd/zpRjgi > > -- > Charley Sheets > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Fwd: Re: [internet-freedom] openWRT vs. FCC - forced firmware lockdown?

by Mitar

Hi! Some more activity on this topic. The deadline for comments was extended until October 9. BTW, have you seen this article more or less in favor of FCC rule: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/wireless/articles/20150831/07164532118/no-fcc… Also, there is a mailing list for people interested in this topic: http://lists.prplfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fcc Mitar -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Andrew McConachie <amcconachie(a)berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [internet-freedom] openWRT vs. FCC - forced firmware lockdown? Hey Internet Freedomers, I wanted to provide an update on this as things have changed. The original language from the FCC that we discussed is no longer in the proposed rule change. The specific reference to DD-WRT has been removed, and it now looks like the below language is what governs this. "(i) For devices including modular transmitters which are software defined radios and use software to control the radio or other parameters subject to the Commission's rules, the description must include details of the equipment's capabilities for software modification and upgradeability, including all frequency bands, power levels, modulation types, or other modes of operation for which the device is designed to operate, whether or not the device will be initially marketed with all modes enabled. The description must state which parties will be authorized to make software changes (e.g., the grantee, wireless service providers, other authorized parties) and the software controls that are provided to prevent unauthorized parties from enabling different modes of operation. Manufacturers must describe the methods used in the device to secure the software in their application for equipment authorization and must include a high level operational description or flow diagram of the software that controls the radio frequency operating parameters. The applicant must provide an attestation that only permissible modes of operation may be selected by a user."[0] In my opinion the FCC has rightly limited their concern of software update to anything which relates to software controlled radios. The requirement for device manufacturers will be limited to showing that a software update cannot reprogram a software controlled radio to cause interference. In practice, this will most likely mean that binary drivers will be required to run OS's like OpenWRT, and manufacturers like Marvel/Avago will continue to obfuscate their hardware APIs. This is a compromise I think we're going to have to live with. Below is the comment I made to the FCC(tracking number 1jz-8kvr-4z96). " Please do not do anything to interfere with the development of OpenWRT, DD-WRT or similar alternative firmware. It is important that consumers maintain the right to change the OS of any devices they own. For the purposes of preventing spectrum interference it is necessary that software controlled radios not be easily reprogrammable. However, this requirement should in no way interfere with the legitimate right of consumers to change the general purpose OS's of their legally purchased devices. Sincerely, Andrew McConachie " Comments close on Sep 8, only 7 more days to go. Speak now or forever hold your bits. Also, if anyone knows someone at the LibrePlanet SaveWiFi wiki their page has the wrong comment deadline.[1] Their page says October 9, but the FCC deadline is September 8. Thanks, Andrew [0] https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2015/08/06/2015-18402/equipment-au… [1] https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Save_WiFi/Individual_Comments On 7/25/15 10:41 PM, Andrew McConachie wrote: > There is no real way to do this short of getting Linux to relicense. > Even then, home router manufacturers can always use a BSD Unix. Most > home routers are nothing but a 4-5 year old UNIX with a buggy > proprietary web interface anyways. I give money to the FSF and have been > a member for over 10 years, but sadly there was never a way to fix this > with the GPLv3. > > Two doubts I have: > 1) Chipmakers like Avago/Marvel are doing more and more in their > proprietary binary drivers. Given this, they might just lock them down > such that frequencies cannot be changed regardless of the OS ontop. Some > chips already do this. Or they'll produce chips which cannot physically > change their frequencies. > > 2) Home router manufacturers are notoriously terribly at locking down > their devices. They sell cheap devices with terribly low margins. They > don't want to spend any developer time or extra HW on this requirement. > > On the other hand the FCC states that home router manufacturers must > answer this question: > "What prevents third parties from loading non-US versions of the > software/firmware on the device? > Describe in detail how the device is protected from “flashing” and the > installation of third-party firmware such as DD-WRT."[1] > > This really does suck. Because it looks like if Netgear were to ship a > device that could be flashed with DD-Wrt/OpenWrt the FCC might penalize > them. > > --Andrew > > [1] > https://apps.fcc.gov/kdb/GetAttachment.html?id=1UiSJRK869RsyQddPi5hpw%3D%3D… > > On 7/25/15 8:04 PM, Jethro Beekman wrote: >> Too late now, but you should have developed GPL3-licensed software and forced it >> upon AP manufacturers/pressured widely used software on AP's (e.g. Linux, >> BusyBox) to relicense GPL3. >> >> -- >> Jethro Beekman >> Graduate student researcher >> 719 Soda Hall >> Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences >> University of California at Berkeley >> jbeekman(a)eecs.berkeley.edu >> >> >> On 25-07-15 17:44, Mitar wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Have you seen this, from Battlemesh V8 agenda >>> (http://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV8/Agenda). Doesn't look good. >>> >>> The new FCC rules are in effect in the United States from June 2nd 2015 >>> [1] for WiFi devices such as Access Points. They require to have the >>> firmware locked down so End-Users can't operate with non-compliant >>> parameters (channels/frequencies, transmit power, DFS, ...). In >>> response, WiFi access point vendors start to lock down firmwares to >>> prevent custom firmwares (such as OpenWRT) to be installed, using code >>> signing, etc. Since the same type of devices are often sold world wide, >>> this change does not only affect routers in the US, but also Europe, and >>> this will also effect wireless communities. >>> We would like to discuss: >>> * What are your experiences with recently certified WiFi Hardware >>> * How can we still keep OpenWRT on these devices >>> * What can we suggest to Hardware vendors so that they keep their >>> firmware open for community projects while still compliant with the FCC? >>> >>> [1] >>> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/kdb/forms/FTSSearchResultPage.cfm?id=39498&switc… >>> >>> >>> Mitar >>> >> -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m

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Re: [Mesh] [omni-discuss] Box of PoE adapters missing

by Jenny Ryan

We have a lock on the closet under the stairs and should def move any expensive gear there. On Sep 4, 2015 7:37 PM, "max b" <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hmmmm yeah I didn't see a box of ethernet cables when I was looking > through mesh stuff last night. I wasn't looking for PoE adapters though, so > who knows about those. > > Luckily for us, neither of those are super critical - I have a handful of > adapters here and any new gear we buy that will require PoE will come with > their own adapters. It *might* be a problem with the remaining stash of > picostations though... > > Neither of those boxes would net someone any money, though, so I'm > skeptical that someone stole them for profit. Especially considering that a > variety of the other gear on that rack would be worth a lot more money. > > All that being said, perhaps we should re-evaluate our gear and do a > better job securing anything that is expensive/hard to replace... I don't > have any answers to that problem though, short of some really fancy server > cage or something.... > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote: > >> sudo mesh is missing two boxes: >> >> * One box of PoE (Power over Ethernet) adapters >> * One box of ethernet cables >> >> If anyone has any idea where these may be please let us know. >> >> -- >> marc/juul >> >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list >> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

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New server colo suggestion, + SF node offer

by Pete Forsyth

Hello Meshers, I'd like to introduce Jon, a former colleague at Wikimedia (he ran the office network), my generous web host, and an all around good free culture guy. After talking with Marc, I asked Jon about options for server colocation. This is not my realm,so I offer you his suggestion verbatim...hope this is useful. Also, should we set him up with a node in SF? Jon has the chops to troubleshoot stuff on his own, and it would be cool to have a node on that side of the bay...perhaps a baby step toward that elusive transbay link? Regardless, I would suggest Jon add his home to the node map -- except it seems to be offline?? http://map.sudomesh.org/ If responding, please keep in mind Jon is not on the email list, and CC as appropriate. -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] on the wiki On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Jon Davis <jon(a)snowulf.com> wrote: <snip> > #3 - I have not. I looked up the website, interesting stuff. Need a node > in SF? ;-p. My colo of choice for most things is Hurricane Electric > http://www.he.net/colocation.html . Their standard rate for a full 42U > cabinet (with 100meg connection and 15amp power) is $600/mo but I guess > it's on sale right now. You can even bump that to 1gig connect for that > same cab which I think is about $500 more or $1100 total/mo. They also > offer smaller "Getting started" options like a 1/3 rack (with 100meg and > 2amp) for $200/mo. The main DC is their FMT2 facility in Fremont. It's not > one of those DCs where you get palm scanners and fancy shit like that, but > if you want DC space on the cheap, I can't think of any options in the area > that would beat it. > >> >> 1. >> >> <snip> > >> 1. Are you familiar with Sudo Mesh? It's a cool mesh networking >> project that's picking up speed in Oakland. (I'm running the first node!) >> The setup (which has been largely built by local geeks) involves every >> participant running through a VPN. They are looking for a new/better colo >> for the server that manages it all, ideally in Oakland or East Bay and with >> pretty easy physical access. Any suggestions? >> >> <snip>

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Mesh meeting tonight 7:30 pm at sudo room!

by Marc Juul

It's September and everyone is coming back from vacation so let's figure out where we're at and where we're going. -- marc/juul

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Fwd: Re: [wlan-si dev] Re: TDMA for OpenWrt devices

by Mitar

Hi! Forwarding. Mitar -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Musti <musti(a)wlan-si.net> Subject: Re: [Mesh] [wlan-si dev] Re: TDMA for OpenWrt devices To: development(a)wlan-si.net Hi, I am happy to volunteer a 10km or 20km link in Slovenia in PTMP config, but we need to get all working with wlan slovenija firmware. Kind regards, Musti On 1.9.2015 18:29, Adrian Chadd wrote: > Hi, > > Yup. I have plenty of 5ghz hardware but no long distance hop with > which to try it with. :( > > > > -adrian > > > On 1 September 2015 at 03:03, Valent <valent(a)otvorenamreza.org> wrote: >> On 1 September 2015 at 11:18, Valent <valent(a)otvorenamreza.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 1 September 2015 at 01:39, Adrian Chadd <adrian(a)freebsd.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I could do with all the help testing the freebsd tdma code on 5ghz 11n >>>> APs. :P >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -adrian >>> >>> >>> >>> I'll be glad to do testing, just give us some guidelines what kind of >>> tests you had in mind. >>> >> >> >> Adrian are devices listed on right side of wiki ones you recommend for >> testing? >> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-wifi-build/wiki >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mesh mailing list >> mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/mesh >> -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m

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Re: [Mesh] [wlan-si dev] Re: TDMA for OpenWrt devices

by max b

Adrian Chadd, who is on the sudomesh mailing list, is the one who I believe implemented TDMA in FreeBSD. We've been pestering him about if for a little while now, but if you want to add to the chorus I'm sure it couldn't hurt... After Defcon, of course ;) On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Mitar <mitar(a)tnode.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Have you made a ticket for this TDMA support? > > But I think it would be better if this could get into an OpenWrt itself. > It would be easier for us to use it then. > > > Mitar > > > After some more research I found that FreeBSD recently added TDMA > > support to their ath driver [1]. > > Friend of mine just tried to use it on some cheap TP-Link device but > > currently TDMA support is broken but it will be fixed in next few > > days. > > > > [1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/dev/ath%284%29 > > > > -- > http://mitar.tnode.com/ > https://twitter.com/mitar_m > > Settings and unsubscription: > https://wlan-si.net/lists/info/development > > Public archive: > https://wlan-si.net/lists/arc/development >

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Can someone, please, donate $ to buy Acoustic Caulk to repair the Ballroom south wall? (Picts)

by danarauz＠gmail.com

Hello All, Could someone, please, donate money to buy 10 large tubes of acoustic caulk? We need $80. You don't have to buy it yourself, but if you prefer, according to our more experienced Omni member sheet rock installer (Joe), the acoustic caulk that we should get is the one made by OSI. It costs about $8 each. WHAT FOR? To complete the the sheet rock installation at the Ballroom south wall. WHEN DO YOU NEED IT FOR? We need it by this Saturday, so we can continue working on it during our next work party. HAVE PHOTOS? Ballroom south wall current state: http://www.arauz.com/activism/omni/images/IMG_20150831_182312.jpg http://www.arauz.com/activism/omni/images/IMG_20150831_182351.jpg http://www.arauz.com/activism/omni/images/IMG_20150831_220838.jpg http://www.arauz.com/activism/omni/images/IMG_20150831_220904.jpg http://www.arauz.com/activism/omni/images/IMG_20150831_220922.jpg http://www.arauz.com/activism/omni/images/IMG_20150831_220955.jpg Many thanks in advance and please let me know if you have any more questions. Daniel -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Fwd: [FCC] Reddit thread

by Jenny Ryan

Upvote and comment on this thread re: the FCC decision to require restrictions on wireless router hacking! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Chip Rosenthal" <chip(a)unicom.com> Date: Aug 29, 2015 10:33 AM Subject: [FCC] Reddit thread To: <fcc(a)lists.prplfoundation.org> Cc: There is a BIG Reddit thread currently active on this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/3isbif/the_fcc_is_asking_for_c… -- Chip Rosenthal * 512-573-5174 * KE5VHV * http://www.unicom.com/ Austin #OpenGov and #CivicHacking events: http://www.open-austin.org/calendar _______________________________________________ FCC mailing list FCC(a)lists.prplfoundation.org http://lists.prplfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fcc

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Re: [Mesh] [sudo-discuss] Can someone please donate Cat6 Shielded cable?

by max b

Hey Charley, You're more than welcome to donate money (or time) if that's more up your alley. Also, if you want to donate UTP cat6, we'll take that as well. We use a bunch of ethernet cable both at the omni and for other installations, so we can always use more. If you're feeling really generous, we can really use shielded outdoor cat5 and cat6 for installing antennas. Don't worry - no matter what kind of ethernet cabling you feel like donating, we can almost certainly find a use for it :) As for the questions you've outlined: First thing: shielded cable This isn't actually an ethernet run. It's dsl lines + phone lines running over cat copper wires. As such, it's my understanding that it's more sensitive to EMI disturbance. Additionally, it's much better to err on the safe side as we'll only want to string this once and the entire network communications infrastructure depends on the dsl signal that passes through this line. As for needing shielded mating jacks, we have plenty of grounded rj-45 connectors and with whatever other scenarios, it's pretty easy to ensure that they're grounded. We're not talking about our entire network infrastructure, we're just talking about this one cable run. Second thing: hand termination We're using an EZ RJ-45 crimper, which makes the process fairly straightforward. We have spools of other types of ethernet cables and have done runs throughout the building. Also - we'll be breaking out these pairs anyhow, so most of this is fairly non standard types of termination which are much easier than rj-45 disconnects. Daniel, let us know if I missed anything here? Max On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote: > Hey Daniel, > > I am interested in helping out, but I have to admit I'm fairly > skeptical of two elements of this request, so I'd like to get some > clarification if possible. > > First thing: shielded cable. My understanding is that most of the noise > rejection comes from the twists, not the shielding, and that shielded > cable is only useful in high-EMI environments. Am I mistaken about the > application, or are we perhaps in a high-EMI environment? The standard > example of high EMI is something like a factory floor. Shielding also > only works as intended if the mating connectors (jacks and whatnot) are > also shielded. Does that apply here? My inclination is to donate > standard (UTP) cat6 cable. Please help me understand why I should > donate shielded cable instead. > > Here is some information (could be biased -- it's from a cable > supplier) about the differences as they apply to cat6a: > http://mirapath.com/blog/item/cat6a-shielded-or-unshielded > > Second thing: hand termination. You've stated a preference for a box of > several hundred feet of cable. To me that implies that you'd prefer to > hand terminate the cable rather than having pre-terminated cables. I > certainly won't make any claims about your personal ability to > terminate cables, but most people are not especially skilled at this, > and many hand terminated cables I've seen in the field are visibly not > well made. I've terminated cat5 and cat5e cable, and it's always been > very fiddly and challenging for me to minimize the untwisted distance, > and to ensure there are no open pins. Pre-terminated cable is > available with strain relief boots and is often certified to be > complaint with the relevant cabling standard. What do you see as the > advantage of spools of cable? Why not buy pre-terminated cable? > > I hope this doesn't come across as overly critical. Sorry if it does. I > really just want to make sure we get exactly what we need. > -- > Charley Sheets > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss > >

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Anyone want a PicoStation2?

by Steve Berl

Cleaning my garage I came across a Ubiquiti PicoStation2 HP. I got this from the mesh group once upon a time because I thought I was going to help with development, but things got in the way and that never really happened. It's still in the box with antenna, power cord and POE adapter. Do you folks what it back, or is it eWaste? I can drop it my this evening or some other time that is convenient. -- -steve

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preferred router

by Morgan Allen

I've checked the wiki a couple times but cannot seem to find the answer I'm after... curious what the current best option for both a mesh and home use router would be. I've been running OpenWRT on a WRT54G for years but it just cannot keep up any more and has zero space available. Basically I need something that meets the needs for the mesh network and has a built in switch/multiple ethernet ports. Thanks! -- http://ithoughtyouweretherobot.com Metal and Wire http://nolonelyguineapigs.com/ Wandering and Rambling http://morglog.org Old and Neglected. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: OpenPGP.js v.1.20121007 Comment: http://openpgpjs.org xsBNBFG3btUBB/9+/WJNOSIuc/praKPaPOweqXV5s7PGRD+HAnNWF/19YAY3 AFtfeoelhhY4sMJoobTaJzcZojznZ1kl/7UuuYCnbJO3Z9kaSMVrVxEZMSLe YmW8Hc4ZsTnl9f05DQFy8ABpAvMLmXJQXh63BbfzjFqNbSWQfLhrubSM2Elq xmN6EsmRyAuEeYlSnal+Di2MlViohpCbbagE2D6AZTUECIamTib6+DuLG4XO b4GGKHR9TXu2qS1VH6hqcvdEz2MDE5OqZzAnBgcF2dvcOdTk9gAOoR1T+qKj IJtg2X0ETbxcPqEXQoXE8VrxN0MLT5JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAAD7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFNNmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRej3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtTN3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwPj2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7/ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg== =V/Ia -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: [Mesh] [sudo-discuss] Can someone please donate Cat6 Shielded cable?

by danarauz＠gmail.com

Shielded Cat6 has been ordered (thanks to Charley) and "theoretically" will be delivered to his place on Friday. Charley is bringing it to Sudoroom on Saturday. Nice! Daniel On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:37 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Awesome! See you both Saturday! > And, many thanks Charley! > > Daniel > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:02 AM, Charley Sheets <rcsheets(a)acm.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:24:50 -0700 >> "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I think this should do the job. >> > Thanks! >> >> Ordered. Theoretically it should be at my house Friday, and I'll bring >> it over to sudo on Saturday. >> >> -- >> Charley Sheets >> > > > > -- > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! > https://omnicommons.org/donate > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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Fwd: [Battlemesh] OpenWrt Summit Session Deadline - this FRIDAY, August 28

by Jenny Ryan

Dublin is a bit far, but just a heads up anyway to follow this conf :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Eric Schultz" <eschultz(a)prplfoundation.org> Date: Aug 26, 2015 3:45 PM Subject: [Battlemesh] OpenWrt Summit Session Deadline - this FRIDAY, August 28 To: <battlemesh(a)ml.ninux.org>, <openwrt-hackers(a)openwrt.org>, " cerowrt-devel(a)lists.bufferbloat.net" <cerowrt-devel(a)lists.bufferbloat.net> Cc: First, I promise this is the last reminder of the OpenWrt Summit Session deadline. :) I just wanted to remind folks that the deadline for submitting OpenWrt Summit sessions is this Friday, August 28. We have some great session submissions but we're still looking for YOUR session submission. If you have a topic on OpenWrt you'd like to discuss or want to show off some great work, the OpenWrt Summit is the place to do it! You can submit a session by visiting http://summit.prplfoundation.org and following the instructions. We've tried to make the form simple and straightforward but if you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me (eschultz(a)prplfoundation.org) If you've never presented at a conference before, we welcome your submissions and participation. We want your views and experiences shared. I'm also happy to help anyone who would like help with their submissions. Lastly, OpenWrt Summit is a welcoming conference and we value the participation of all people. In particular, I want to encourage folks from marginalized communities to submit their sessions, including women and people of color. Your experiences are part of OpenWrt and we welcome your sessions. As always, please contact me if you have any questions or concerns. I look forward to seeing the final sessions that come in from everyone. Thanks everyone again, Eric -- Eric Schultz, Community Manager, prpl Foundation http://www.prplfoundation.org eschultz(a)prplfoundation.org cell: 920-539-0404 skype: ericschultzwi @EricPrpl _______________________________________________ Battlemesh mailing list Battlemesh(a)ml.ninux.org http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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Re: [Mesh] mesh Digest, Vol 31, Issue 16

by yar

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:23 PM, James Foley <jfoley510(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I have tried 3 times to unsubscribe and followed the directions but it > doesn't work. Please unsubscribe me from the list I've removed you. Please let me know if you have any more trouble. Thanks!

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