Hi!
(Please spread the word to those you think might be interested in the
scholarship.)
We are opening a call for sponsored travel to attend Battlemesh for
anyone living outside Europe and would like to invite you to send your
application! Battlemesh is the annual conference/gathering/hack event on
community wireless networks and routing protocols will be between
3rd-9th August in Maribor, Slovenia. As Battlemesh is in the week before
the Chaos Communication Camp in Germany, this is an excellent
opportunity to be able to travel to both.
https://wlan-si.net/en/blog/2015/06/22/battlemesh-travel-scholarships-avail…
Event is free to attend and we still have organized accommodation
available at low cost.
Requirements
------------
Travel scholarships are open to people not living in Europe. To apply,
we would like to ask you to send a short video (not longer than two
minutes) to describe your situation:
- Where are you from?
- Why would you like to attend Battlemesh?
- What impact in your local environment do you expect from your
participation?
- Would you be able to attend without the travel scholarship?
- Will you continue to the Chaos Communication Camp? (Note that it is
not a problem if you also plan to go to the CC camp.)
Shoot a short video and upload it to one of the video sharing websites
and send us a link. Note that if it is private, we need a direct link
and/or password for it as well.
Contact
-------
E-mail your video to the local Battlemesh team at
<battlemeshv8(a)wlan-si.net>.
Deadline
--------
The deadline for applications is the 3rd of July. Decisions will be made
before 6th July.
What is Battlemesh?
-------------------
The Wireless Battle of the Mesh is an event that aims at bringing
together people from across Europe and beyond to test the performance of
different routing protocols for mesh networks, like Babel, B.A.T.M.A.N.,
BMX, IEEE 802.11s, OLSR. It is a tournament with a social character. If
you are a mesh networking enthusiast, community networking activist, or
have an interest in mesh networks and related technologies, come and attend.
The traditional goal of the event is to set-up hands-on testbed for each
available mesh routing protocol with a standard test procedure for the
different mesh networks. During the event, similar hardware and software
configuration will be used based on the OpenWrt and packages for each
protocol implementation. The event is also a great opportunity to
develop testing tools for PHY/MAC radio layers (drivers, scripts and PHY
analyzers). Alongside the testing of routing protocols, a number of
talks, workshops, and hackathons will be held on various mesh-related
topics, all from technology to community and social aspects of mesh
networks.
This years Battlemesh will take place from 3rd to 9th August 2015 in
Maribor, Slovenia.
Mitar
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Okay, cool, we will come on Tuesday.
Mike and I talked about meeting there the earlies possible, he mentioned
even 4pm would work for him. But, I have to confirm the time to him on
Tuesday, since I don't know how early I can leave from work that day.
I will try to message the list, so you know.
Thanks,
Daniel
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> Ok, 5' should be long enough. I'm planning to be at Sudo Tuesday for
> hardware hack night, so I could be there if he came in the evening.
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Hi Sudo meshers,
I had a great time helping install the Ethernet with you and wanted to
thank everyone for such a fun day today. I learned a lot I didn't know,
and I'm always gratefull for to learn from those opportunities.
I really appreciated the chance to follow the installation with you, and
learning the openwrt flashing and soldering the tp-link boards, really
expanded my technological horizons. Special thanks to Max and Mark for
showing me the ins and outs of cabling/routers/re-configuring wrt power
supplies, etc.!
Thanks to Benny and Daniel for such a great dinner!
And thanks to everybody for being such great company during 10+ hours of
installation!
I look forward to seeing you all again soon!
Sincerely,
Tom
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:18:10 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>
> To: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [Mesh] Reminder: Omni Wifi installation tomorrow (Sunday)!
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> We're running ethernet cable and installing wifi routers at Omni tomorrow
> at 1 pm!
>
> We're low on hammers, so bring one if you can. We will need them to attach
> cable clip nails.
>
> If you have a really long drill bit for punching through walls that might
> come in handy. I'm not sure we'll need it (most walls at Omni are very
> thin), but if you have one bring it!
>
> also bring snacks/drinks if you can (caffeine > alcohol)
>
> I will try to brew some (non-carbonated) sudo mate :)
>
> hack hack hack!
>
Almost there. <=10 mins.
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:45:00 -0700
>From: Benny Lichtner <bennlich(a)gmail.com>
>To: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
>Cc: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>, "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org"
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>K--I'll try to arrive at noon too. I think Daniel introduced me to
>cable
>termination last week, but it was late, and I was tired, and the
>colors--they all blended together :-P
>
>On Friday, June 19, 2015, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I plan to be there from 12-3 to finish the basement run, and can help
>show
>> people how to terminate. :)
>> Hey, all. Are people still planning to meet this Sunday to finish
>setting
>> up the new nodes?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas(a)gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like heaven to me, if only we could just replace Google
>Voice...
>>> On Jun 15, 2015 8:59 PM, "pansophia" <pansophia(a)gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pansophia(a)gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hangouts Dialer. :D
>>>>
>>>> I can only dial out though. People have to leave me a message on
>Google
>>>> Voice for me to call them.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas(a)gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Awesome! What app is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Noemie for the amazing portraits. Great shots!
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2015 5:50 PM, "pansophia" <pansophia(a)gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pansophia(a)gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This has nothing to do with cabling, but I want to publicly thank
>Ryan
>>>>>> for figuring out which app I needed to use as a dialer to turn
>Google Voice
>>>>>> into a working phone on wifi. I called my Mom in Virginia from
>the Sudo
>>>>>> room, and that's the first time I've ever called her from
>California in 25+
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~ Elisa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Noemie Serfaty <
>>>>>> noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pics are on the omni facebook wall! <3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jenny Ryan
><tunabananas(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas(a)gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed! It was great to meet some new folks, practice my
>crimping
>>>>>>>> skills, take apart and solder some routers. Would like to get
>more practice
>>>>>>>> flashing - will these not be flashed with sudowrt?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since I'll be away this weekend, I'll see about borrowing
>Jake's
>>>>>>>> long drill and finishing the basement run tomorrow :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
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>>>>>>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>>>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>>>>>>>> defining it."
>>>>>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','juul(a)labitat.dk');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Tom <tomwrites326(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tomwrites326(a)gmail.com');>>
>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sudo meshers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had a great time helping install the Ethernet with you and
>>>>>>>>>> wanted to thank everyone for such a fun day today. I learned
>a lot I didn't
>>>>>>>>>> know, and I'm always gratefull for to learn from those
>opportunities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciated the chance to follow the installation
>with
>>>>>>>>>> you, and learning the openwrt flashing and soldering the
>tp-link boards,
>>>>>>>>>> really expanded my technological horizons. Special thanks to
>Max and Mark
>>>>>>>>>> for showing me the ins and outs of
>cabling/routers/re-configuring wrt power
>>>>>>>>>> supplies, etc.!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone for coming and doing so much work!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm calling it a night. We had six routers and five long
>ethernet
>>>>>>>>> cables to run to cover a 22,000 square foot building!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's what we accomplished today:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Completed: Two ballroom ethernet cable runs: One at each end
>of
>>>>>>>>> ballroom.
>>>>>>>>> * Completed: One ethernet cable run to far end of disco room
>>>>>>>>> (except crimping)
>>>>>>>>> * Completed: One ethernet cable run to Counter Culture Labs
>>>>>>>>> * In progress: One ethernet cable run to basement (need long
>drill)
>>>>>>>>> * In progress: One ethernet cable run to La Commune (unsure
>how far
>>>>>>>>> it got)
>>>>>>>>> * Two routers mounted on walls: Disco room and Counter Culture
>Labs
>>>>>>>>> * All six routers modified for power over ethernet
>>>>>>>>> * All six routers flashed with OpenWRT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yay! Maybe next Sunday we can finish the remaining tasks:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Finish last two cable runs
>>>>>>>>> * Mount last four routers
>>>>>>>>> * Configure routers (we might work on this Thursday)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> marc/juul
>>>>>>>>>
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>
Hi All,
I live in portland OR, and I am just recently getting interested in
wireless meshnets.
My current setup is two nodes, Raspberry Pi 2 Hardware, one with a tp-link
TL-WN722N, and the other with some sort of "panda wireless-n" adapter.
My problem is that I am getting around 30% dropped packets, and they are
about a foot apart, which makes me wonder if using a ad-hoc is a good idea
or not...
I have them both running Ubuntu 14.04
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi> and the most recent version of
cjdns.
My network configs are below:
root@ubuntu:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces
# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
# Include files from /etc/network/interfaces.d:
source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
auto wlan0
allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet manual
wireless-channel 8
wireless-essid NeighborMesh
wireless-mode ad-hoc
So then I decided to just remove the wireless usb adapters, and run cjdns
over the eth0 interfaces, but I am still getting a consistent ~12% packet
drop with that:
--- fcfe:307d:38e5:5aa4:9bfc:a4ce:dd3d:969c ping statistics ---
76 packets transmitted, 67 received, 11% packet loss, time 75156ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.378/26.382/196.791/51.318 ms
Pinging the IPv4 address outside of cjdns works great, always:
--- 192.168.0.226 ping statistics ---
24 packets transmitted, 24 received, 0% packet loss, time 23002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.640/0.675/0.783/0.036 ms
What am I doing wrong?
I *would* like to achieve standalone/independent wireless mesh nodes that
dont need a master access point to function. (I am imagining giving one to
my geek neighbor, and seeing if we can start a mini mesh network)
Does anyone have any suggestions?
-Cobin
Can you please unsuscribe me of this list? Danke.
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Oh yes, definitely will be checking out again for the VPN client w constant
connection part.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 8:44 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com < danarauz(a)gmail.com >
wrote:
> Okay.
>
> For my nice surprise, the router arrived today. And of course, I jumped
> onto flashing it right away.
>
> The process in a nutshell, for those like me, if you ever have updated a
> home router's firmware, well.. it is basically the same process. Which I
> had in the past.The only part that needs most attention is to grab the
> correct binary version to use. And when done, point browser to the new ip:
> 192.168.1.1.
>
> I have updated Cisco 2950 and 2960s managed switches which requires TFTP
> server and a series of commands, etc. For some reason I was expecting
> something something similar with OpenWRT. Oh well.
>
> Right now I perusing the interface and I am impressed w all those goodies
> in it!
>
> Thank you to all of those that reply. It bust confidence when someone has
> your back. ;)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:26 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com < danarauz(a)gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
>> awesome max, i also can help you twisting someone's arm too; if you need
>> help. :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:20 PM, max b < maxb.personal(a)gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> /me commences to twist arm....
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Adrian Chadd < adrian(a)freebsd.org >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could have my arm twisted to show up again on Thursday..
>>>>
>>>> -a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 June 2015 at 16:59, max b < maxb.personal(a)gmail.com > wrote:
>>>> > Rad. the TP-Link should be more than enough for your purposes, but
>>>> it'll be
>>>> > fun to tinker with the raspberry pi. I can make sure to be there next
>>>> > thursday and we can plan on walking through this (I might need a
>>>> > reminder....)
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:44 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <
>>>> danarauz(a)gmail.com >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you all for your replies, very appreciated it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Based on suggestions and to start with a solid first step, just
>>>> ordered
>>>> >> the TP-Link WDR4300: http://tinyurl.com/l88qfze
>>>> >> Along the way, I also expecting the RPI 2 B:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/phx5myo
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I intent to be at tonight Sudoroom's meeting, and then next week at
>>>> the
>>>> >> SudoMesh's meeting, Thursday. I expect that by then the two lost
>>>> souls may
>>>> >> have arrived home. :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I got sonic.net DSL at home, uploading speeds I don't recall (but
>>>> in the
>>>> >> couple of 100kbps, but downloading its good enough,close to around
>>>> 8mbps.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Glenn, I will see what I can do.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Hep Svadja < hepkitten(a)gmail.com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> http://makezine.com/projects/ browse-anonymously-with-a-diy-
raspberry-pi-vpntor-router/
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -Hep
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Adrian Chadd < adrian(a)freebsd.org >
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If you need VPN encrypt/decrypt performance, then yes you'll want
>>>> one
>>>> >>>> of the intel based things with supported crypto offload. The
>>>> >>>> performance difference is pretty staggering.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> -adrian
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I know the subject line is like.. woot!?? :)
But seriously... :) I am looking for someone to hold my hand and walk me
through (help me with) a couple of small projects. Here is what I wish to
accomplish:
1- to get a router with OpenWRT (Not sure of its capabilities, but I like
the idea to get ride of the corporate code, because potential backdoors)
2- and if needed, a tiny computer that would be always connected to a VPN
account, so that all home computers can use it as their gateway; IF the
router cannot do this.
What can I give in exchange?
Well, I don't know what knowledge I can share when all of you seem to be
way above my head.
I don't know, maybe Photography? Spanish? :)
Please let me know if interested, we can start right away. I am eager to
start this.
Many thanks,
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Hey so I'm super late, but I am definitely coming (I got sucked into
watching a basketball game!)
I did call these folks today:
http://www.hamradio.com/locations.cfm?storeid=3
I asked about non-penetrating mounts and they mentioned that they have
"tripods". I know that's not really what we were thinking about, but I
think it'll be worth it for me to swing by tomorrow and take a look. I'll
drive, so if anyone else is interested in swinging by, let me know.
Probably around 2:30 or so...
On other notes:
- What are people's thoughts about new payment processing solutions? We've
gotten some notices from gratipay that they've fixed their issues, but that
we'll have to re-apply as a "team". We *could* roll our own stripe system,
but in my experience using stripe to charge credit cards is easy, but
properly managing recurring payments is not that easy. I personally would
prefer to continue to allow a third-party to do that work. Does anyone know
what sudoroom is doing?
- The sudomesh.org server (and peoplesopen.net and all the other stuff) is
slowly being brought back to life. I believe that @sudomesh.org (and @
peoplesopen.net) email addresses are currently down, so it might make sense
for us to fix that first before we apply at gratipay again. I have
purchased a digital ocean VPS, so the next step is to finish setting it up
and then coordinate with marc on DNS settings.
- Node mounting this sunday? Of course, if we get the non-penetrating
mount, we can set up a link between Will and the Omni. Even if we don't get
the non-penetrating mount, there's plenty to be done. We need to run cable
(not a simple feat to do correctly), configure a mesh node tp-link or
mynet, configure extender node antennas, and create a link between them (we
can just do it by holding up a radio on the omni side by hand). Who would
be around to do some of this? Will is on this list, but I might get in
touch with him off-list anyhow to see if he'll be around and would be
interested.
Hi!
Please help us fill in the spreadsheet of community network management
solutions out there. We filled in those we know about, but even those
only partially. So if in your network you are using some solutions for
network management, please fill it in:
https://goo.gl/JbD4VC
As we are working on nodewatcher v3 we are trying to keep up with
developments of others. We will also use this data in the paper we are
writing about managing community networks. Feel free to use the data as
well. If you strongly feel that some column is missing, add it, but
remember that it has to be filled for all rows to be really useful.
Spreadsheet is CC0.
Mitar
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While this is something I couldn't participate in, I hope hanging out helps
me learn more about it. Perhaps next time I can help with something that
can be done down at the table such as adjust the routers?
I'm the one with questions about whether it is possible (or even wise) to
build local political relationships to boost local library wifi out into
surrounding neighborhoods. Then Mesh concepts could be used from there. I
ask because I see an opening to develop that kind of relationship and ask
for civic space goods in South Berkeley. The City is sidling up to us
because they need to show they worked with the community when they apply
for big Federal transportation grants later.
Matt and Jenny brought up some concerns about using libraries as signal
sources:
1) Library workers are unionized and will object to putting Mesh software
on their computers. They have a select set of software they have agreed to
maintain. Software conflicts may cause unanticipated conflicts and create
extra work for them.
2) Libraries block some content.
3) Libraries turn off their wifi when they close, and their hours may
change according to city budget.
I've had some fantastic opportunities lately to pursue the "boosting
library wifi" idea, but I want to make sure this is a good thing to pursue
before I do. The impression I got from a chat with Jenny yesterday is Mesh
just wasn't ready to work with the library scenario yet, but there was no
legal/political problem with discussing it. The chorus of advice is to
"bring it up with April!"
I did have a really sweet opportunity on Saturday to bring Mesh up with my
Council Member, and in the current situation it's possible those
opportunities might come up a few more times. I'd welcome any guidance
about what to do (or NOT to do) on such occasions.
~ Elisa
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Tom <tomwrites326(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sudo meshers,
>>
>> I had a great time helping install the Ethernet with you and wanted to
>> thank everyone for such a fun day today. I learned a lot I didn't know, and
>> I'm always gratefull for to learn from those opportunities.
>>
>> I really appreciated the chance to follow the installation with you, and
>> learning the openwrt flashing and soldering the tp-link boards, really
>> expanded my technological horizons. Special thanks to Max and Mark for
>> showing me the ins and outs of cabling/routers/re-configuring wrt power
>> supplies, etc.!
>>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone for coming and doing so much work!
>
> I'm calling it a night. We had six routers and five long ethernet cables
> to run to cover a 22,000 square foot building!
>
> Here's what we accomplished today:
>
> * Completed: Two ballroom ethernet cable runs: One at each end of ballroom.
> * Completed: One ethernet cable run to far end of disco room (except
> crimping)
> * Completed: One ethernet cable run to Counter Culture Labs
> * In progress: One ethernet cable run to basement (need long drill)
> * In progress: One ethernet cable run to La Commune (unsure how far it got)
> * Two routers mounted on walls: Disco room and Counter Culture Labs
> * All six routers modified for power over ethernet
> * All six routers flashed with OpenWRT
>
> Yay! Maybe next Sunday we can finish the remaining tasks:
>
> * Finish last two cable runs
> * Mount last four routers
> * Configure routers (we might work on this Thursday)
>
> --
> marc/juul
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Hi all,
As it seems some Ethernet runs are planned for today, I was thinking about
power distribution also for the Beagle Bone Blacks (maybe not Blacks but
anyhow) recc'd by Marc to control electronic access at each door needing it.
Stringing extension cords & wall warts from ea. BBB - door set is both not
code-worthy (if an inspector really wanted to bust our balls since
'permanent' extension cords are called out), multiple AC>DC conversion
is also power-inefficient, prone to power loss/unplugging & and may require
further electrical work to bring outlets closer to some doors..
Since I understood that BBB's don't accept Power over Ethernet (PoE) I was
considering central low-voltage power distribution through a single
Variac-type DC power supply, DC PDU, PowerPole connectors and the zipline
of appropriate gauge for the runs to deliver ~5VDC at the BBB endpoints (I
have done this before).
However (even if it is not as power-efficient) if we are injecting at
Sudo's racks it seems we could use Ethernet for power if
we inject 12VDC PoE, then break it out at the end to a cheap 12>5VDC
adapter which could in turn feed the 5VDC port on the BBB's - check out the
last post of:
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/beagleboard/nrRZJkCWQa0
If we're running the thicker-gauge pairs in cat6 (compared to Cat5(e)), we
might be able to get away with 5VDC injectors but probably the injection
point would have to be more centralized within the building than the racks
in sudo room - like in the basement furnace room e.g., which makes most
sense to me as the central distribution point for Ethernet runs around the
building, due to it's centrality, the ease of running
into/along ducting/registers, proximity to the basement,
perimeter crawlspaces, the ease of lateral runs through the basement, etc.
Love
David
We're running ethernet cable and installing wifi routers at Omni tomorrow
at 1 pm!
We're low on hammers, so bring one if you can. We will need them to attach
cable clip nails.
If you have a really long drill bit for punching through walls that might
come in handy. I'm not sure we'll need it (most walls at Omni are very
thin), but if you have one bring it!
also bring snacks/drinks if you can (caffeine > alcohol)
I will try to brew some (non-carbonated) sudo mate :)
hack hack hack!
--
marc/juul
I got a propane BBQ yesterday and I want to try it out!
Today (Tuesday) isn't going to be quite as warm as yesterday, at least not
in the evening, so how's about we meet at my place in West Oakland, at 6 pm
(before it gets cold and dark) with our laptops and some stuff to throw on
the barbie and then head to the New Parkway to watch Ex Machina?
http://thenewparkway.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_%28film%29
Good idea? Bad idea?
( i'm in the mood for celebrating a bit since the CCL kickstarter just
reached its goal :)
--
marc/juul
Tom: Sunday 1PM.
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From: danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Mesh] Omni wifi installation party Sunday June 14th
To: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>
Sounds good! I'll see then! :)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
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>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like fun! -I could stop by for a few hours. When do we start? :)
>>
>
> How about 1 pm?
>
> --
> marc/juul
>
The new wifi router budget request has been approved and the routers will
arrive before June 14th.
I propose we spend Sunday June 15th running CAT6 throughout the building
and configuring and installing the routers.
Who can make it?
Tasks:
* Plan router locations and wifi channels
* Plan cable runs to locations, ensuring it's doable
* Run CAT6 cable nicely along the walls to six different locations
* Find power supplies that will work with passive PoEs to power routers
* Open routers and solder two wires to make them PoE enabled
* Flash routers with OpenWRT and configure correctly
We should totally bring food and caffeinated drinks to make it all more
enjoyable! I can brew up a batch of (non-carbonated) sudo mate!
--
marc/juul
I can be there. What time?
Tom
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> The new wifi router budget request has been approved and the routers will
> arrive before June 14th.
>
> I propose we spend Sunday June 15th running CAT6 throughout the building
> and configuring and installing the routers.
>
> Who can make it?
>
> Tasks:
>
> * Plan router locations and wifi channels
> * Plan cable runs to locations, ensuring it's doable
> * Run CAT6 cable nicely along the walls to six different locations
> * Find power supplies that will work with passive PoEs to power routers
> * Open routers and solder two wires to make them PoE enabled
> * Flash routers with OpenWRT and configure correctly
>
> We should totally bring food and caffeinated drinks to make it all more
> enjoyable! I can brew up a batch of (non-carbonated) sudo mate!
>
Hi, April -
I've been involved in the Adeline community redevelopment process in
Berkeley, and I also live practically across the street from the South
Berkeley library. While Max was explaining the Mesh topology today, I was
wondering whether it would be possible to collaborate with local libraries
to boost their wifi signal out into local communities.
The first question - and the one everyone thought you would be the most
expert on - is whether it would be wise to have any contact at all with
official government entities...?
On the bright side, it's a consistent source of paid-for wifi. The
bandwidth for downloads is not huge, but my understanding is the Mesh
signal would only allow for email and basic Internet browsing anyway.
What do you think? If it is safe to bring this up, I will propose it at the
next community redevelopment meeting.
~ Elisa
I'll bring the M5 antenna unit today to learn how to flash it. What time
should we meet at Omni - 11am?
-Will
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> Thanks Yar!
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> So I have some ideas about Sunday, but I haven't really decided on anything
> yet. Here they are in more or less random order:
>
> - Meet at Sudoroom, I show whoever is there how to flash our newest
> firmware, run makenode and create a mesh node. Depending on time and how
> many folks show up, we could also set up extender access points or extender
> node->node radios and perhaps set up a 5ghz extender node link in the omni.
> I would probably trust these folks to take those mesh nodes home with them
> as I think the new rule is starting to shape up as: "if you can flash and
> configure a node yourself, you can take it home and be part of the alpha
> release".
>
> - We try to get on the roof of the omni and build a connection to Will's
> house. I don't really know much about the roof status, so I'd be hesitant
> to go this direction unless someone else was there who was comfortable with
> the roof situation. This would also require us to have the proper mounting
> materials and figure out the correct mounting technique and locations for
> the roof. We DO have a nanostation m5 which would be a good match for
> Will's nanobridge and we could also set up a nanostation m2 which would be
> an access point broadcasting internet signal to the neighborhood.
>
> - Folks come to my house and help me set up an extender node. I have a
> mynet setup in my house and nanostation m2 which I'd like to broadcast to
> the neighborhood, but the mounting situation is a tiny bit tricky. Ideally
> we'd have a ladder as well as some sort of materials/techniques for
> following my comcast cable line back through the wall out of the house and
> to the roof (so probably just those wall brackets as well as whatever it
> takes to get through the wall). If we were feeling particularly ambitious,
> we could set up an extender node which would face south and *perhaps* be
> able to see Alex.
>
>
> Just some thoughts. If no one else shows I'll probably just be hacking on
> some firmware tweaks and/or setting up a mesh service at my house. Also -
> send an email to the list if you want to show up. I likely won't be at
> sudoroom unless I know that someone else will be there as well.
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:01 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > This message got sent during server migration and lost in limbo. Here it
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> > Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:17 PM
> > Subject: Sunday Node Mounting
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> >
> > I'm free this sunday and would love to help mount some nodes.
> >
> > My Nanobridge NB-5G25 dish is up-and-running and facing the Omni - I'd
> > like to get it set up as a backbone so I can begin adding 2.4ghz nodes
> > in my neighborhood.
> > Do we have any 5G dishes on top of the Omni yet?
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Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:17 PM
Subject: Sunday Node Mounting
To: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
I'm free this sunday and would love to help mount some nodes.
My Nanobridge NB-5G25 dish is up-and-running and facing the Omni - I'd
like to get it set up as a backbone so I can begin adding 2.4ghz nodes
in my neighborhood.
Do we have any 5G dishes on top of the Omni yet?
Will Martin
Hi, all -
I was just reading about the potential of LTE-U to "wipe out half the WiFi"
spectrum on Dave Farber's IP list. I will copy the last post here since it
suggests some political awareness is called for. Sorry for mentioning it if
it's irrelevant.
~ Elisa
*****
... is absolutely on track writing to the list "more limited the LAA, the
better." It's designed to take half of all available WiFi spectrum. (40 MHz
channels by 4 telcos = 160MHz.) WiFi is too valuable to give the telcos
half.
...is wrong speculating there isn't much to be done about it. While the
U.S. press hasn't picked up much, there is D.C. opposition so strong it
surprised me. If WISPs and others write the FCC, this could be stopped
dead. The FCC can and should develop "rules of the road" to ensure
continued vitality of WiFi, now routinely delivering 300-500 megabits with
LOS.
Wall Street Analyst Paul de Sa thinks the important 5GHz band can and will
be protected, writing this week "We are skeptical that it will be easy to
persuade regulators that this is indeed the case and think LTE-U is more
likely to be deployed at scale in the new 3.5GHz band rather than at 5GHz."
(deSa is a former FCC Chief of Staff.)
There are major filings at the FCC from Microsoft, Google, Broadcom &
Michael Calabrese. Michael Ha of the FCC indicated at a conference LTE-U is
so controversial everyone has an opinion.
*The other big problem: Interference is likely *
There has not been a single field test of LAA, which has only been tried in
the company labs of supporters. A Stanford professor tells me he expects
interference will show up when LAA gets out there. Several in FCC filings
have indicated similar.
*What can and should block the spectrum grab*
Something with so many problems and so little data would normally never
make it through the 3GPP Standards Committee, loaded with excellent
engineers. Qualcomm, Ericsson and the giant telcos are pushing hard to get
it included in the forthcoming release 13 of the LTE standards.
A Qualcomm executive chairs a crucial committee at 3GPP.
Mostly the committee makes sound technical decisions good for both
companies and the public interest. But on issues like this, public and
private interests differ. If 3GPP had strong public participation,
LTE-U/LAA would at least be deferred until after substantial independent
field tests.
That public participation may be in sight. The U.S. and the EU have a very
strong U.S. and EU commitment to "multi-stakeholderism" and open
standards. Decker
Anstrom, Chair of the U.S. Delegation to the major ITU World Radio
Conference, and others discussed the issue at last week's State Department
Advisory meeting.
There's no U.S. government position yet, but our international leads,
Ambassador Sepulveda and Larry Strickling, will look very foolish calling
for "multi-stakeholder" at the ITU while doing nothing about the attempt to
clobber WiFi being decided behind closed doors.
The EU is ahead of the U.S., with "listen before talk" required. That
should also be in the standard. Verizon, I'm told, is trying to block that
in the United States. Good engineers are working on the problem; LTE-U/LAA
standards should be deferred until we have some results. They don't belong
in this years' Release 13 of LTE.
The U.S. government is a member of 3GPP and could prevent a consensus on
Release 13 if it contains widely questioned extensions into WiFi spectrum.
Something as important as this should not be decided without vigorous
public debate.
The Internet Society support for U.S. State Department efforts is crucial
to Ambassador Sepulveda. He almost certainly would follow the Internet
Society lead if a forceful request was made. ISOC CEO Kathy Brown and
policy lead Sally Wentworth speak eloquently at the ITU about the
importance of public participation in governance. *The WiFi spectrum issue
is much more important than anything at the ITU, which at the last big
meeting (Busan Plenipot) made clear they will not challenge U.S. policy. *
FCC Chairman Kennard once explained how things like this go down. "There
are some people I call Black Ninjas. They work in the dark and are very,
very good"
Time to shine some sunlight here.
(The right solution would be sensible "rules of the road" to resolve
contention in unlicensed spectrum, today and in the future. The Qualcomm
lab test was against against already obsolete WiFi. The WiFi folks - in an
IEEE open standards process - are working at developing more effective
contention schemes. Marty Cooper, who won the Marconi Award for building
the first mobile cellphone, identified better contention methods as WiFi's
biggest problem. Ideas on how to do this very welcome. I'll be writing
more.)
Hi!
This Saturday we will be deploying few links for BSC mesh network
between few houses on the south side of the campus.
We start at Wilde house at 10 AM. And we will work on Loth, Afro,
Castro, Sherman and Davis houses. Here you have addresses and the map of
all houses:
http://www.bsc.coop/housing/map-directions
If you are interested to help or learn, come around. Bring tools you
think might be useful. :-)
My phone number is 510 717-4612.
Mitar
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [sudo-info] Node hosting
Date: 2015-04-21 17:16
From: "John Urness" <jurness(a)gmail.com>
To: <info(a)sudoroom.org>
Hi,
I'd love to host a mesh node if you need roof space and are expanding.
My house is located on 1st Avenue in Oakland, a couple of blocks away
from Suigetsukan. Do you have an internet gateway or are you just
creating a municipal network? Liberate me from the cold and bony claws
of Comcast!
Best,
John Urness
jurness(a)gmail.com
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