Hi Divine,
Thank you for getting in contact, YES, I am very interested in your help!
We were busy at the lab making the prototypes, so I apologize for not
getting back to you then! Here is a link to the gardenmesh video I showed
you in the meeting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJJiGtuPJF4). This
version doesn't have any of the text overlays that you saw but I think it's
helpful anyway. I have copied my cameraman Vassil, and the sudoroom
listserve so we can all benefit from your wisdom!
I obviously have no professional tools, but to help visualize what we want
to put together, I've made a little 6-pc storyboard, nothing is set in
stone though.
The main points we want to make in the video about the idea are 1) the very
cheap price, 2) the access to your own real-time data without any
configuration, 3) our plan to build philanthropy into the business model -
buy one, give one to a needy community, and 4) how this data can be used to
make better choices
In order to clench the NatGeo grant, we have to make it all pertain to
feeding 9 billion people.
Rough Script:
Cell 1: Hi, I'm Mario Gabiati, and I'm here to tell you about a great idea
that will help us feed 9 billion people, which sounds like a big problem,
but it starts with feeding just one. I was having a lot of trouble feeding
myself from my own garden because I was guessing all the time; guessing
what plants would do well in my garden, guessing they'd be okay when I left
for work or on vacation. I wanted to find something that would let me
monitor my garden when I was away or sleeping, but nothing on the market
could monitor everything I wanted, and were much more expensive than I
wanted to spend; anywhere from 50-100 dollars!
Cell 2: (we were planing to show some poorly producing community garden
plots here as b-roll while I talked more about the program). Feeding 9
billion people on 100% industrialized agriculture is impossible and
probably unhealthy, and studies show that people are turning to home
gardening as a way to get fresher, more wholesome food. The popularity of
community and home gardening has increased substantially, and now over a
third of US households are growing food! But what if we could grow even
more food in our homes and community gardens using nothing more than a $5
sensor and our smartphone?
Cell 3: (now that I'm writing this out, we may want to change the order -
the intent was to briefly touch on the world-wide implications of this
technology, and our desire to bring it to nations where home gardening may
mean the difference between surviving and starving). The very low price to
build our sensor means that we can bring this technology out of the US and
bring it to places where growing your own food may mean the difference
between survival and starvation or malnutrition. Would you buy a sensor
for $10 if you knew a sensor just like yours would be given to a family in
Venezuela or Yemen?
Cell 4: (this will be b-roll of us installing the prototypes at East Bay
Vivarium on Friday and/or lush community garden plots with our sensors in
them). Incredibly easy to install, just activate and place - and already I
can receive real-time data about my garden.
Cell 5: (Info-graphic? white-board animation? i can use all the ideas you
have!). This technology requires no configuration, it simply begins
serving data as soon as it's installed, giving you real-time access to your
garden's data. With your permission, we can aggregate this information
with all the other sensors on earth and begin building comprehensive
micro-climate maps that can help give you suggestions on what kinds of
plants and vegetables to grow in your specific area.
Cell 6: (closure, reiteration of the feeding 9 billion theme) Feeding 9
billion people isn't such a huge problem when it's fun and easy to grow a
percentage of your own food and these sensors make growing your own food
much easier at a price that brings it into the reach of billions of people!
Please visit our website below to learn more information, and lets mesh!
[image: Inline image 1]
Anyway, this is what I've got so far, let me know what your thoughts are!
Thank you!
-Mario
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Divine Adesida <divine.adesida(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Mario,
>
> It's Divine.
>
> We discussed that I would help with the script for the video this
> afternoon.
>
> Did you want to send me what you had?
>
> Cheers,
> Divine
>
> --
> Divine Adesida
>
Hello everyone,
I hate to change plans last minute, but unfortunately our installation at
EBV will have to be postponed until next week. Instead, I need your help
finishing up the 1-minute gardenmesh video for the National Geographic
Chasing Genius grant, due Aug 15th.
This is a great opportunity to see the technology, meet some of it's
builders and help us get out first major round of funding!
So, I will be at the OMNI commons tomorrow from 2pm-8pm recording and
editing the video that we will submit Monday Aug 14th. I will be providing
free beer and pizza for this event starting at 2pm until it is gone - so I
look forward to seeing you there!
Let me know if you have any questions!
-Mario
On Aug 10, 2017 20:41, "Mario Gabiati" <mgabiati(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Again, thank you for your interest in the GardenMesh project, keep checking
for our new landing page which should be in the next few days at "
www.peoplesopen.net/gardenmesh".
For those of you unfamiliar with the project, Counter Culture Labs and
Sudoroom have teamed up to create a super low cost environmental sensor
that meshes automatically over a self-generated Wi-Fi network. We are
working to build software that makes gathering real-time data elementary
for any user at an accessible price.
We are ready with 5 new prototypes ready for installation into our first
test environments, and East Bay Vivarium (1827 Fifth Street c, Berkeley, CA
94710) has graciously agreed to allow us to use some of their enclosures
as our first environmental test sites!
*PLEASE NOTE* : Due to a schedule change, we need to install the units
Saturday August 12th, NOT Friday August 11.
We will be meeting at EBV at noon (12p) Saturday August 12th. We will be
taking a look at the units and exploring the store, and begin installation
under EBV supervision starting around 1pm.
Afterwards, I will be hosting a discussion and meet-and-greet for anyone
who is curious about the project at Doc's Refresher (984 University Ave,
Berkeley, CA 94710). I hope to see you there!
If you have any questions or are having trouble finding the group after you
arrive you can contact me, Mario, at (323)-314-0783 <(323)%20314-0783>.
Keep on meshing on!
-Mario
On Aug 10, 2017 15:31, "G Gallo" <ggallo102(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello gardenmeshers,
Sierk and I have been hard at work preparing various parts of the project
for the Nat Geo grant and the East Bay Vivarium prototype roll out. A few
updates from my end:
1. We have ~6 working prototypes (aka Garden Gnodes) thanks to the
prototyping party last Sunday
2. We now have a way of remotely updating the scripts running on the Garden
Gnodes via telnet (if interested check out this script
<https://github.com/sudomesh/gardenmesh/blob/master/remoteupload.sh>)
3. With the help of Jake (from sudoroom), we also now have a few Garden
Gnodes being **safely** powered by Li-Po batteries.
4. I recently procured some analog multiplexers so we should be able to
test the light sensors soon.
5. The roll out at the East Bay Vivarium is planned for tomorrow at 9:30am,
this should be as simple as setting up one of our peoplesopen.net routers,
connecting it to their internet, and then plugging in the Garden Gnodes in
their respective tanks.
I plan at being at the Omni most of this evening preparing at least five of
the prototypes to be deployed at the Vivarium. This will involve flashing
the NodeMCU firmware, uploading the gardenmesh Lua script, and checking
that the remote update feature works correctly. If any one is interested in
learning about the hardware/firmware side of the project feel free to stop
by the Omni tonight (it's also weekly JavaScript night!).
I know there were a few people that came by this week interested in the
project, but I do not have their emails. Mario, if you want to add them to
this thread that would be great.
-grant
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Bullitt Bourbon <bb(a)elleko.net> wrote:
> hi-
>
> l read this and also the e-mail you wrote to Divine, very nice work there.
> Some comments/ questions:
>
> 1. Some of the monologues are kind of infomercially. An example is cell 2:
> 'studies show that... the popularity of home gardening has increased
> substantially'. that's not really stuff one would say IRL. Maybe it's meant
> to suggest an ad-lib for similar content, just wanted to point it out,
> though. l can help with all that.
>
> 2. cell 2 - Definitely not an expert here, but often gardens have better
> performing and worse performing crops, right?
> The images can match what is being narrated, from a poorly producing
> section when u talk about factory farming to a thriving section when u say
> 'what if we can grow more food...'
>
> 3. cell 3 - is this stock footage?
>
> 4. cell 5 - this is a good opportunity to show the actual device off. it
> can just pretend to be working. we can make a fake data screen and show it
> working on a phone. we can have infographics showing how it works as well,
> but since these things exist on the market, people already know about all
> that.
>
> -BB
>
>
> On 2017-08-07 19:44, Mario Gabiati wrote:
>
>> Hey I found this cool PDF report on home gardening in america, it's up
>> something like 20% in the last 5 years and it seems to be very popular
>> with young people. Maybe we can rip some infographics out for the
>> video? Take a look and tell me what you think! Thanks!
>>
>> -MARIO
>>
>> https://garden.org/special/pdf/2014-NGA-Garden-to-Table.pdf [4]
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Mario Gabiati <mgabiati(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Nat Geo Grant Video (please watch and comment)
>>> 2. Prototype party August 6th 4pm-8pm
>>> 3. Invitation to field test at East Bay Vivarium
>>> 4. Gardenmesh meetings every Tuesday 8p
>>> _____________________Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> First off, I'd like to thank all of you for your continued efforts
>>> on this project. We have some exciting developments I'm excited to
>>> update you on:
>>>
>>> With major help from Adam, I've put together a crack at the 1-minute
>>> submission for the National Geographic 'Chasing Genius' grant
>>> (www.natgeochasinggenius.com [1]) due July 30th. I've chosen to
>>> submit under the 'Feeding 9 Billion' focus. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1fJuy09hh37SlkyakdlVVgxdjQ
>> /view?usp=sharing_eip&ts=59783ef0
>>
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> We only have a few more days to make edits before I have to submit
>>> so I am interested in hearing any suggestions you have! Not looking
>>> for perfection, just want to get the point across.
>>>
>>> Next, if you'd like to participate in BUILDING PROTOTYPES, we will
>>> be hosting a prototype building party AUGUST 6TH 4-8PM at the
>>> sudoroom hack space at the Omni Commons (4799 Shattuck Ave, Oakland,
>>> CA 94609). No need to be an expert, we are all learning together
>>> here. Thank you Grant for taking on the lions share of the soldering
>>> and coding for this project, we couldn't do it without you!
>>>
>>> If you are interested in getting more technical information on the
>>> project, please visit our GITHUB WIKI
>>> (https://github.com/sudomesh/gardenmesh/wiki [3]) - thank you Grant,
>>> Jorrit, and Scott!
>>>
>>> More good news: Sean Parnell from East Bay Vivarium has graciously
>>> offered to let us test our first round of prototypes in their Wi-Fi
>>> connected store. We will be able to test the units without solar
>>> panels or batteries, or much housing so that we can hammer out the
>>> software side of things and make upgrades for the exterior units
>>> that we will be testing at Annie's Annuals in the fall (thank you
>>> Cassandra!).
>>>
>>> Lastly, if you are interested in getting more involved in the
>>> project, we have gardenmesh meetings every Tuesday evening at 8pm at
>>> the Omni Commons (4799 Shattuck Ave, Oakland, CA 94609).
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> -Mario Gabiati
>>> GardenMesh Project Coordinator
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] http://www.natgeochasinggenius.com
>> [2]
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1fJuy09hh37SlkyakdlVVgxdjQ
>> /view?usp=sharing_eip&ts=59783ef0
>> [3] https://github.com/sudomesh/gardenmesh/wiki
>> [4] https://garden.org/special/pdf/2014-NGA-Garden-to-Table.pdf
>>
>
> --
> -Bullitt Bourbon
>
Hello Folks,
This email is to let you know that this Friday, Aug 11th, some of us will
be re-routing the network cables at the Sudoroom server area. The whole
building will not have Internet access during this process, which we
estimate will happen between 9:30am - 12:30pm.
Thank you, and please let us know if you have any questions.
--
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Hello everyone,
Again, thank you for your interest in the GardenMesh project, keep checking
for our new landing page which should be in the next few days at "
www.peoplesopen.net/gardenmesh".
For those of you unfamiliar with the project, Counter Culture Labs and
Sudoroom have teamed up to create a super low cost environmental sensor
that meshes automatically over a self-generated Wi-Fi network. We are
working to build software that makes gathering real-time data elementary
for any user at an accessible price.
We are ready with 5 new prototypes ready for installation into our first
test environments, and East Bay Vivarium (1827 Fifth Street c, Berkeley, CA
94710) has graciously agreed to allow us to use some of their enclosures
as our first environmental test sites!
*PLEASE NOTE* : Due to a schedule change, we need to install the units
Saturday August 12th, NOT Friday August 11.
We will be meeting at EBV at noon (12p) Saturday August 12th. We will be
taking a look at the units and exploring the store, and begin installation
under EBV supervision starting around 1pm.
Afterwards, I will be hosting a discussion and meet-and-greet for anyone
who is curious about the project at Doc's Refresher (984 University Ave,
Berkeley, CA 94710). I hope to see you there!
If you have any questions or are having trouble finding the group after you
arrive you can contact me, Mario, at (323)-314-0783.
Keep on meshing on!
-Mario
On Aug 10, 2017 15:31, "G Gallo" <ggallo102(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello gardenmeshers,
Sierk and I have been hard at work preparing various parts of the project
for the Nat Geo grant and the East Bay Vivarium prototype roll out. A few
updates from my end:
1. We have ~6 working prototypes (aka Garden Gnodes) thanks to the
prototyping party last Sunday
2. We now have a way of remotely updating the scripts running on the Garden
Gnodes via telnet (if interested check out this script
<https://github.com/sudomesh/gardenmesh/blob/master/remoteupload.sh>)
3. With the help of Jake (from sudoroom), we also now have a few Garden
Gnodes being **safely** powered by Li-Po batteries.
4. I recently procured some analog multiplexers so we should be able to
test the light sensors soon.
5. The roll out at the East Bay Vivarium is planned for tomorrow at 9:30am,
this should be as simple as setting up one of our peoplesopen.net routers,
connecting it to their internet, and then plugging in the Garden Gnodes in
their respective tanks.
I plan at being at the Omni most of this evening preparing at least five of
the prototypes to be deployed at the Vivarium. This will involve flashing
the NodeMCU firmware, uploading the gardenmesh Lua script, and checking
that the remote update feature works correctly. If any one is interested in
learning about the hardware/firmware side of the project feel free to stop
by the Omni tonight (it's also weekly JavaScript night!).
I know there were a few people that came by this week interested in the
project, but I do not have their emails. Mario, if you want to add them to
this thread that would be great.
-grant
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Bullitt Bourbon <bb(a)elleko.net> wrote:
> hi-
>
> l read this and also the e-mail you wrote to Divine, very nice work there.
> Some comments/ questions:
>
> 1. Some of the monologues are kind of infomercially. An example is cell 2:
> 'studies show that... the popularity of home gardening has increased
> substantially'. that's not really stuff one would say IRL. Maybe it's meant
> to suggest an ad-lib for similar content, just wanted to point it out,
> though. l can help with all that.
>
> 2. cell 2 - Definitely not an expert here, but often gardens have better
> performing and worse performing crops, right?
> The images can match what is being narrated, from a poorly producing
> section when u talk about factory farming to a thriving section when u say
> 'what if we can grow more food...'
>
> 3. cell 3 - is this stock footage?
>
> 4. cell 5 - this is a good opportunity to show the actual device off. it
> can just pretend to be working. we can make a fake data screen and show it
> working on a phone. we can have infographics showing how it works as well,
> but since these things exist on the market, people already know about all
> that.
>
> -BB
>
>
> On 2017-08-07 19:44, Mario Gabiati wrote:
>
>> Hey I found this cool PDF report on home gardening in america, it's up
>> something like 20% in the last 5 years and it seems to be very popular
>> with young people. Maybe we can rip some infographics out for the
>> video? Take a look and tell me what you think! Thanks!
>>
>> -MARIO
>>
>> https://garden.org/special/pdf/2014-NGA-Garden-to-Table.pdf [4]
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Mario Gabiati <mgabiati(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Nat Geo Grant Video (please watch and comment)
>>> 2. Prototype party August 6th 4pm-8pm
>>> 3. Invitation to field test at East Bay Vivarium
>>> 4. Gardenmesh meetings every Tuesday 8p
>>> _____________________Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> First off, I'd like to thank all of you for your continued efforts
>>> on this project. We have some exciting developments I'm excited to
>>> update you on:
>>>
>>> With major help from Adam, I've put together a crack at the 1-minute
>>> submission for the National Geographic 'Chasing Genius' grant
>>> (www.natgeochasinggenius.com [1]) due July 30th. I've chosen to
>>> submit under the 'Feeding 9 Billion' focus. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1fJuy09hh37SlkyakdlVVgxdjQ
>> /view?usp=sharing_eip&ts=59783ef0
>>
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> We only have a few more days to make edits before I have to submit
>>> so I am interested in hearing any suggestions you have! Not looking
>>> for perfection, just want to get the point across.
>>>
>>> Next, if you'd like to participate in BUILDING PROTOTYPES, we will
>>> be hosting a prototype building party AUGUST 6TH 4-8PM at the
>>> sudoroom hack space at the Omni Commons (4799 Shattuck Ave, Oakland,
>>> CA 94609). No need to be an expert, we are all learning together
>>> here. Thank you Grant for taking on the lions share of the soldering
>>> and coding for this project, we couldn't do it without you!
>>>
>>> If you are interested in getting more technical information on the
>>> project, please visit our GITHUB WIKI
>>> (https://github.com/sudomesh/gardenmesh/wiki [3]) - thank you Grant,
>>> Jorrit, and Scott!
>>>
>>> More good news: Sean Parnell from East Bay Vivarium has graciously
>>> offered to let us test our first round of prototypes in their Wi-Fi
>>> connected store. We will be able to test the units without solar
>>> panels or batteries, or much housing so that we can hammer out the
>>> software side of things and make upgrades for the exterior units
>>> that we will be testing at Annie's Annuals in the fall (thank you
>>> Cassandra!).
>>>
>>> Lastly, if you are interested in getting more involved in the
>>> project, we have gardenmesh meetings every Tuesday evening at 8pm at
>>> the Omni Commons (4799 Shattuck Ave, Oakland, CA 94609).
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> -Mario Gabiati
>>> GardenMesh Project Coordinator
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] http://www.natgeochasinggenius.com
>> [2]
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1fJuy09hh37SlkyakdlVVgxdjQ
>> /view?usp=sharing_eip&ts=59783ef0
>> [3] https://github.com/sudomesh/gardenmesh/wiki
>> [4] https://garden.org/special/pdf/2014-NGA-Garden-to-Table.pdf
>>
>
> --
> -Bullitt Bourbon
>
Hello everyone,
Just wanted to share the exciting projects and deadlines we have planned
for GardenMesh!
*Tuesday, Aug 8th, 8pm* - Sudoroom/GardenMesh weekly meeting
-we will be discussing the grant video and showcasing the data from
our 6 brand new prototypes! Come take a look!
*Friday Aug 11th, 9:30am-12pm *- We will be installing and testing our
prototypes at East Bay Vivarium.
-we want to use some photos/video for the grant video so keep that in
mind
-if you are interested in going, please email me separately:
mgabiati(a)gmail.com
*Aug 15 8:59pm* - Our grant proposal video for the NatGeo Chasing Genius
grant (http://www.natgeochasinggenius.com/) is due no later than this!
cheers!
-Mario
we're working on this bug over here, will you guys at Sudo check the ip
tables again now when you have a minute?
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> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 10:34:37 -0700
> From: "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Bullitt D. Bourbon" <bb(a)elleko.net>
> Cc: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>,
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> Yes. I checked all named PON, Sudomesh, and Omni Commons and they have
> the
> same Public IP.
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Bullitt D. Bourbon <bb(a)elleko.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone checked the node at Omni?
>>
>>
>>
>> l wouldn't worry about sending to the list, Daniel. there's spam on
>> here
>> and this is actually a big deal. if this goes offlist l'd like to be
>> looped.
>> this issue needs to get solved today.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 08:41:40 -0700
>>> From: "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>> To: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Mesh] PON Alert. Please verify what I am reporting.
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAPMS6zZ1fdD9YZR9jA4bCeM5e8XRPtZb6wvV1q8zwsx83JjuVA(a)mail.gm
>>> ail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> (Please excuse, but my previous email, sent via phone, was meant to
>>> be for
>>> Grant. Now that I am on a laptop I realized that it went out to the
>>> list.
>>> Sorry about that.)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:22 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com
>>> <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ooops! I just realized that the previous email I sent out was going
>>> just
>>>> to you. Now that I am a laptop I see that it went to the list as
>>>> well. Oh
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:00 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com
>>>> <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes! And that's is why I keep saying folks to check. It's bad. I did
>>>> when
>>>>> I checked the first time (traceroute), and also I have my domain to
>>>>> do
>>>>> an
>>>>> IP check when surfers try to reach a non existing web page. Try
>>>>> this non
>>>>> existent item: www.arauz.com/hsgshdjdjdbd
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways, wondering if there is someone else (besides Marc) w the
>>>>> knowledge to check this issue on the nodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am oaktown already, and left my node up, I forgot about folks
>>>>> (my
>>>>> neighbors most likely) using for potentially shitty stuff when it's
>>>>> not
>>>>> via
>>>>> vpn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017, G Gallo <ggallo102(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can verify that I am seeing the same thing from my node. All
>>>>> three of
>>>>>> my SSIDs (my home wifi, my private PON, and my public PON) are
>>>>>> routing
>>>>>> through the same ip address. Any ideas why this is happening? If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> wanna
>>>>>> reproduce try running traceroute (or google what's my ip?) on both
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> home wifi network and your peoplesopen.net wifi as shown below.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> next line in all of these is my home network's public ip address:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> home wifi:
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> private wifi:
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> public (PON) wifi:
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 3]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if anyone realizes how bad this is. If this is
>>>>>> happening
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> your peoplesopen node you should probably unplug it right away as
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> leaving your home network's ip address open to be used by anyone
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> purpose with no VPuN to route through. Do we know if there is
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> VPuN is down, was there a mix up with the recent release of ip
>>>>>> addresses?
>>>>>> Also why is it falling back on my home internet connection instead
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> not working at all? Additional input and other verifications would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -grant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <
>>>>>> danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I received an email from uptimerobot saying that our exit node is
>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THE ALERT:
>>>>>>> My PON WiFi appears to be up, but it is using my own private
>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>> IP
>>>>>>> as exit node.
>>>>>>> Can someone, please, double check and report back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>> - -
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>> - -
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> mesh mailing list
>>>>>>> mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/mesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> - -
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> - -
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> - -
>>> -
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> - -
>>> -
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>
Just opened a new bug on github for this:
https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues/1
It needs to get assigned. Whoever wants to take ownership give me a
shout or assign it to yourself? This is an A bug, folks.
On 2017-08-06 12:00, mesh-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote:
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 10:34:37 -0700
> From: "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Bullitt D. Bourbon" <bb(a)elleko.net>
> Cc: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>,
> mesh-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: Re: [Mesh] mesh Digest, Vol 55, Issue 6
> Message-ID:
> <CAPMS6zaX6K6GLNUhW+mTWCrjxbtDrPVtFezTQifB6NJWwXh5MQ(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Yes. I checked all named PON, Sudomesh, and Omni Commons and they have
> the
> same Public IP.
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Bullitt D. Bourbon <bb(a)elleko.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone checked the node at Omni?
>>
>>
>>
>> l wouldn't worry about sending to the list, Daniel. there's spam on
>> here
>> and this is actually a big deal. if this goes offlist l'd like to be
>> looped.
>> this issue needs to get solved today.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 08:41:40 -0700
>>> From: "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>> To: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Mesh] PON Alert. Please verify what I am reporting.
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAPMS6zZ1fdD9YZR9jA4bCeM5e8XRPtZb6wvV1q8zwsx83JjuVA(a)mail.gm
>>> ail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> (Please excuse, but my previous email, sent via phone, was meant to
>>> be for
>>> Grant. Now that I am on a laptop I realized that it went out to the
>>> list.
>>> Sorry about that.)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:22 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com
>>> <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ooops! I just realized that the previous email I sent out was going
>>> just
>>>> to you. Now that I am a laptop I see that it went to the list as
>>>> well. Oh
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:00 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com
>>>> <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes! And that's is why I keep saying folks to check. It's bad. I did
>>>> when
>>>>> I checked the first time (traceroute), and also I have my domain to
>>>>> do
>>>>> an
>>>>> IP check when surfers try to reach a non existing web page. Try
>>>>> this non
>>>>> existent item: www.arauz.com/hsgshdjdjdbd
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways, wondering if there is someone else (besides Marc) w the
>>>>> knowledge to check this issue on the nodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am oaktown already, and left my node up, I forgot about folks
>>>>> (my
>>>>> neighbors most likely) using for potentially shitty stuff when it's
>>>>> not
>>>>> via
>>>>> vpn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017, G Gallo <ggallo102(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can verify that I am seeing the same thing from my node. All
>>>>> three of
>>>>>> my SSIDs (my home wifi, my private PON, and my public PON) are
>>>>>> routing
>>>>>> through the same ip address. Any ideas why this is happening? If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> wanna
>>>>>> reproduce try running traceroute (or google what's my ip?) on both
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> home wifi network and your peoplesopen.net wifi as shown below.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> next line in all of these is my home network's public ip address:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> home wifi:
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> private wifi:
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> public (PON) wifi:
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 3]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if anyone realizes how bad this is. If this is
>>>>>> happening
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> your peoplesopen node you should probably unplug it right away as
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> leaving your home network's ip address open to be used by anyone
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> purpose with no VPuN to route through. Do we know if there is
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> VPuN is down, was there a mix up with the recent release of ip
>>>>>> addresses?
>>>>>> Also why is it falling back on my home internet connection instead
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> not working at all? Additional input and other verifications would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -grant
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <
>>>>>> danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I received an email from uptimerobot saying that our exit node is
>>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THE ALERT:
>>>>>>> My PON WiFi appears to be up, but it is using my own private
>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>> IP
>>>>>>> as exit node.
>>>>>>> Can someone, please, double check and report back?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>> - -
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>> - -
>>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> mesh mailing list
>>>>>>> mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/mesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> - -
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> - -
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> - - -
>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> - -
>>> -
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> - -
>>> -
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>
Related to the discussion we are having at Sudo Room right now, here is the
link to git repo that Jorrit created for reporting bugs:
https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues
Has anyone checked the node at Omni?
l wouldn't worry about sending to the list, Daniel. there's spam on here
and this is actually a big deal. if this goes offlist l'd like to be
looped.
this issue needs to get solved today.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 08:41:40 -0700
> From: "danarauz(a)gmail.com" <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
> To: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mesh] PON Alert. Please verify what I am reporting.
> Message-ID:
> <CAPMS6zZ1fdD9YZR9jA4bCeM5e8XRPtZb6wvV1q8zwsx83JjuVA(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> (Please excuse, but my previous email, sent via phone, was meant to be
> for
> Grant. Now that I am on a laptop I realized that it went out to the
> list.
> Sorry about that.)
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:22 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ooops! I just realized that the previous email I sent out was going
>> just
>> to you. Now that I am a laptop I see that it went to the list as well.
>> Oh
>> well.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:00 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com
>> <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes! And that's is why I keep saying folks to check. It's bad. I did
>>> when
>>> I checked the first time (traceroute), and also I have my domain to
>>> do an
>>> IP check when surfers try to reach a non existing web page. Try this
>>> non
>>> existent item: www.arauz.com/hsgshdjdjdbd
>>>
>>> Anyways, wondering if there is someone else (besides Marc) w the
>>> knowledge to check this issue on the nodes.
>>>
>>> I am oaktown already, and left my node up, I forgot about folks (my
>>> neighbors most likely) using for potentially shitty stuff when it's
>>> not via
>>> vpn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2017, G Gallo <ggallo102(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can verify that I am seeing the same thing from my node. All three
>>>> of
>>>> my SSIDs (my home wifi, my private PON, and my public PON) are
>>>> routing
>>>> through the same ip address. Any ideas why this is happening? If you
>>>> wanna
>>>> reproduce try running traceroute (or google what's my ip?) on both
>>>> your
>>>> home wifi network and your peoplesopen.net wifi as shown below. The
>>>> next line in all of these is my home network's public ip address:
>>>>
>>>> home wifi:
>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>
>>>> private wifi:
>>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>>
>>>> public (PON) wifi:
>>>> [image: Inline image 3]
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if anyone realizes how bad this is. If this is
>>>> happening on
>>>> your peoplesopen node you should probably unplug it right away as it
>>>> is
>>>> leaving your home network's ip address open to be used by anyone for
>>>> any
>>>> purpose with no VPuN to route through. Do we know if there is reason
>>>> the
>>>> VPuN is down, was there a mix up with the recent release of ip
>>>> addresses?
>>>> Also why is it falling back on my home internet connection instead
>>>> of just
>>>> not working at all? Additional input and other verifications would
>>>> be
>>>> helpful.
>>>>
>>>> -grant
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:53 AM, danarauz(a)gmail.com
>>>> <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I received an email from uptimerobot saying that our exit node is
>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> THE ALERT:
>>>>> My PON WiFi appears to be up, but it is using my own private
>>>>> network IP
>>>>> as exit node.
>>>>> Can someone, please, double check and report back?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> -
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>> -
>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> mesh mailing list
>>>>> mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/mesh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> -
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> -
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel
>>
>> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> - -
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
>> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> - -
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Daniel
>
> Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
> https://omnicommons.org/donate
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - -
> - - - - - - - - - - - -
>