Ah, I didn't see that it slides down to half it's length - that is
definitely useful. The old 13ft ladder was a handful to navigate through
the hallway, and a 15' or 16' one might not even fit unless it can be
collapsed down a bit.
I do think it would make more sense for the ladder to be paid out of Omni
funds, but the cost share is small enough that I'm not going to nitpick
that.
I would suggest we approve this purchase. And while we wait for everybody
to get on board, maybe we can look around a bit more for a better deal...
Patrik
On Jan 26, 2018 6:45 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
To Brendan's points:
* The ladder you posted lists in specs: Step Ladder Maximum Height - Closed
(ft.) - 8.58
The ladder needs to be A-Frame height tall enough to reach the ballroom
ceiling (21' - 7' estimate human height reaching = 13' minimum standing
from the top step, so 15' safely)
* Re: OSHA, the listing I posted states "The Skyscraper M15 exceeds all
OSHA and ANSI standards and is rated to hold up to 300 lbs. " The postings
Patrik listed all claim to be OSHA-Compliant, as well - can you post a link
or quote the code re: aluminum ladders?
To Patrik's -
Most of the ladders on the Home Depot site all have estimated delivery
times of March 1-6, are not adjustable, and store at full height (14'-16'),
whereas the one I posted will arrive between Feb 6-9, is fully adjustable,
and stores at 8' (meaning it can be transported on a car's roof rack,
otherwise this cost would not be split with mesh). Also, the only ones
sufficiently tall enough (16') are in the $600 range, except for the last
one you listed:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-16-ft-
Aluminum-Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-
Duty-Rating-AS1016/300388424
That one's $433 and expected delivery between Feb 2-8
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Fiberglass-Twin-
Step-Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-T7414/
203134372?MERCH=REC-_-rv_gm_pip_rr-_-300388424-_-203134372-_-N
This one *may* suffice (ceiling reachable from the top step), and is
fiberglass and $495. The 16' version is $597. Neither would arrive until
March, tho.
If we go for the $433 ladder, we'd need to be able to store it at 16' and
mesh wouldn't participate in the cost-share. Split equitably that'd be $150
each from Omni, Sudo & CCL, or weighted, $250 from Omni and $100 each from
sudo & CCL.
Jenny
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Is it just me, or does $675 seem awfully expensive for
a 300lb, 15'
ladder?
Here's a few 14' and 16' ladders at Home Despot that are closer to the
$400 range:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Aluminum-Step-Ladde
r-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-414/203134172
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-14-ft-Aluminum
-Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-
Rating-AS1014/300388422
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Fiberglass-Twin-Ste
p-Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-T7414/203134372
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-16-ft-Aluminum
-Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-
Rating-AS1016/300388424
Patrik
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Omninoms/sudoers/CCL'ers/meshers,
Last week, Omni's tall A-frame ladder disappeared from the entrance hall
(if anyone noticed someone exiting the building with a ~13' wooden ladder,
lmk).
Robb and I did a bit of research, and ladders that tall are hard to come
by and fairly expensive. This 15' A-frame Little Giant seems to be the best
bet:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00064C4SQ/
Our scaffolding is bulky, takes time to set up, and doesn't reach the
ceilings in the ballroom, entrance hall nor sudo/ccl. A bucket lift is ~10x
more expensive, and wouldn't be able to access some parts of the building
we'd use it in. With a ladder this size, we could use it for working on the
ceilings everywhere - and mesh could use it for our Sunday node mounts.
The cost is $674.80, so I'm proposing the following financial split:
* Omni - $330
* Sudo - $115
* CCL - $115
* Sudo Mesh - $115
Ideas on how best to securely store it?
Please let me know asap if there are any blocking concerns or better
ideas. I'll bring it up at the next sudoroom and mesh meetings and
hopefully someone can bring it up at CCL's.
<3
Jenny
Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
https://omnicommons.org/kitchen
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"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
"Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon."
--Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark"
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