Heyall,
Once it all gets settled on the model, price, and parameters add some
accessory costs for some bike locks or cable locks to make it easy to lock
it close to whatever project it is needed for at the time andor its
permanent storage spot. Copies of the keys could be left with Jenny, Robb,
and a couple others so someone responsible could always get a key from some
stash spot or person.
Thanks Ken
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:18 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
  Ah, I didn't see that it slides down to half
it's length - that is
 definitely useful. The old 13ft ladder was a handful to navigate through
 the hallway, and a 15' or 16' one might not even fit unless it can be
 collapsed down a bit.
 I do think it would make more sense for the ladder to be paid out of Omni
 funds, but the cost share is small enough that I'm not going to nitpick
 that.
 I would suggest we approve this purchase. And while we wait for everybody
 to get on board,  maybe we can look around a bit more for a better deal...
 Patrik
 On Jan 26, 2018 6:45 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
 To Brendan's points:
 * The ladder you posted lists in specs: Step Ladder Maximum Height -
 Closed (ft.) - 8.58
 The ladder needs to be A-Frame height tall enough to reach the ballroom
 ceiling (21' - 7' estimate human height reaching = 13' minimum standing
 from the top step, so 15' safely)
 * Re: OSHA, the listing I posted states "The Skyscraper M15 exceeds all
 OSHA and ANSI standards and is rated to hold up to 300 lbs. " The postings
 Patrik listed all claim to be OSHA-Compliant, as well - can you post a link
 or quote the code re: aluminum ladders?
 To Patrik's -
 Most of the ladders on the Home Depot site all have estimated delivery
 times of March 1-6, are not adjustable, and store at full height (14'-16'),
 whereas the one I posted will arrive between Feb 6-9, is fully adjustable,
 and stores at 8' (meaning it can be transported on a car's roof rack,
 otherwise this cost would not be split with mesh). Also, the only ones
 sufficiently tall enough (16') are in the $600 range, except for the last
 one you listed:
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-16-ft-Aluminum
 -Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-
 Rating-AS1016/300388424
 That one's $433 and expected delivery between Feb 2-8
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Fiberglass-Twin-Ste
 p-Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-T7414/203134372?
 MERCH=REC-_-rv_gm_pip_rr-_-300388424-_-203134372-_-N
 This one *may* suffice (ceiling reachable from the top step), and is
 fiberglass and $495. The 16' version is $597. Neither would arrive until
 March, tho.
 If we go for the $433 ladder, we'd need to be able to store it at 16' and
 mesh wouldn't participate in the cost-share. Split equitably that'd be $150
 each from Omni, Sudo & CCL, or weighted, $250 from Omni and $100 each from
 sudo & CCL.
 Jenny
 Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
 
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 On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
 wrote:
  Is it just me, or does $675 seem awfully
expensive for a 300lb, 15'
 ladder?
 Here's a few 14' and 16' ladders at Home Despot that are closer to the
 $400 range:
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Aluminum-Step-Ladde
 r-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-414/203134172
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-14-ft-Aluminum
 -Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-Rating-
 AS1014/300388422
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Werner-14-ft-Fiberglass-Twin-Ste
 p-Ladder-with-300-lb-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-T7414/203134372
 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Louisville-Ladder-16-ft-Aluminum
 -Step-Ladder-with-300-lbs-Load-Capacity-Type-IA-Duty-Rating-
 AS1016/300388424
 Patrik
 On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
 wrote:
  Greetings Omninoms/sudoers/CCL'ers/meshers,
 Last week, Omni's tall A-frame ladder disappeared from the entrance hall
 (if anyone noticed someone exiting the building with a ~13' wooden ladder,
 lmk).
 Robb and I did a bit of research, and ladders that tall are hard to come
 by and fairly expensive. This 15' A-frame Little Giant seems to be the best
 bet:
 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00064C4SQ/
 Our scaffolding is bulky, takes time to set up, and doesn't reach the
 ceilings in the ballroom, entrance hall nor sudo/ccl. A bucket lift is ~10x
 more expensive, and wouldn't be able to access some parts of the building
 we'd use it in. With a ladder this size, we could use it for working on the
 ceilings everywhere - and mesh could use it for our Sunday node mounts.
 The cost is $674.80, so I'm proposing the following financial split:
 * Omni - $330
 * Sudo - $115
 * CCL - $115
 * Sudo Mesh - $115
 Ideas on how best to securely store it?
 Please let me know asap if there are any blocking concerns or better
 ideas. I'll bring it up at the next sudoroom and mesh meetings and
 hopefully someone can bring it up at CCL's.
 <3
 Jenny
 Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
 
https://omnicommons.org/kitchen
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 "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
 -Laurie Anderson
 "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
 it."
  -Hannah Arendt
 "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
 -Stéphane Mallarmé
 "Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon."
 --Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark"
 ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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