31 Oct
2022
31 Oct
'22
8 a.m.
replying partialyl to myself, partially to jake below..
And if it wouldn't work to do a p2p link, how far can we get, and maybe
find some allies on the way? (eg the apt bldg across the street that used
to have gear?)
Per gMaps it looks like a straight shot, however are there hills, tall
buildings, trees, etc? Is there a way to ascertain this online?
In the meantime, I just did a quick G street view, and it looks like the
building right across on 47th and perhaps a billboard or 2 might be the
only tall/blockers, I'm not sure what that means the options are, going in
front, going over, otherwise? (On shattuck) Also where does Omni have mesh
connections with in the neighborhood, would it make more sense to go from
there?
warmly, ajay
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:48 PM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
Just to be clear, we don't have much expectation
of success having a
network
link down Shattuck Avenue, especially the 1.2 miles to Long Haul (and I
think
there's a hill in the way) but it will be fun to attach nodes to cars with
sunroofs and try stuff.
I think the best bet is to try to pair up with EBDCR, which is basically
across
the street. We need to contact LMI and establish that EBDCR is eligible
and
whether 1G or 10G (although either would be fine)
one reason we need it to be LMI is because Sonic and AT&T don't allow
"sharing"
of a connection and LMI does. But also LMI is local and cool and Sonic is
corporate and AT&T is literally the devil. But all three companies sell
AT&T's
infrastructure.
-jake
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022, Andrew R Gross wrote:
--
“Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise,
so I am changing myself.” -- Rumi
Schedule time for us: http://AToTheT.org/book/
Hey!
A few folks wanna bust out the microwave internet machine and try to see
how far down Shadock we can go and still maintain a connection. Jake said
we should try to get Marc to show us how to set the stuff up. Marc, are
you
in the US? If not, when will you likely be back?
Or would you be able to
remotely tell us how to set the stuff up?
Thx!
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
1 Nov
1 Nov
10:34 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-info] We should test out the microwave internet link
I like the idea of busting out the hardware and at least confirming that it
works across a room, then stepping outside and testing if we can establish
a connection between two parked cars.
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 8:00 AM ajay t <atallam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
replying partialyl to myself, partially to jake
below..
And if it wouldn't work to do a p2p link, how far can we get, and maybe
find some allies on the way? (eg the apt bldg across the street that used
to have gear?)
Per gMaps it looks like a straight shot, however are there hills, tall
buildings, trees, etc? Is there a way to ascertain this online?
In the meantime, I just did a quick G street view, and it looks like the
building right across on 47th and perhaps a billboard or 2 might be the
only tall/blockers, I'm not sure what that means the options are, going in
front, going over, otherwise? (On shattuck) Also where does Omni have mesh
connections with in the neighborhood, would it make more sense to go from
there?
warmly, ajay
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:48 PM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
Just to be clear, we don't have much
expectation of success having a
network
link down Shattuck Avenue, especially the 1.2 miles to Long Haul (and I
think
there's a hill in the way) but it will be fun to attach nodes to cars with
sunroofs and try stuff.
I think the best bet is to try to pair up with EBDCR, which is basically
across
the street. We need to contact LMI and establish that EBDCR is eligible
and
whether 1G or 10G (although either would be fine)
one reason we need it to be LMI is because Sonic and AT&T don't allow
"sharing"
of a connection and LMI does. But also LMI is local and cool and Sonic is
corporate and AT&T is literally the devil. But all three companies sell
AT&T's
infrastructure.
-jake
On Wed, 26 Oct 2022, Andrew R Gross wrote:
--
“Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise,
so I am changing myself.” -- Rumi
Schedule time for us: http://AToTheT.org/book/
Hey!
A few folks wanna bust out the microwave internet machine and try to see
how far down Shadock we can go and still maintain a connection. Jake
said
we should try to get Marc to show us how to set
the stuff up. Marc, are
you
in the US? If not, when will you likely be back?
Or would you be able to
remotely tell us how to set the stuff up?
Thx!
*Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
2 Nov
2 Nov
8:30 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-info] We should test out the microwave internet link
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 8:00 AM ajay t <atallam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Per gMaps it looks like a straight shot, however are there hills, tall
buildings, trees, etc? Is there a way to ascertain this online?
</snip>
There's a website that will help you figure out what obstructions there
are, and how high an antenna you would need to clear them, etc. I can't
find it this moment, but I'm asking the friend who sent me the link before,
I'll try to report back. Super useful!
And, hi all, miss you!
-Pete
3 Nov
3 Nov
7:02 a.m.
New subject: [sudo-info] We should test out the microwave internet link
Ubiquiti has a free web-based one at https://ispdesign.ui.com/
Cambium has a downloadable program:
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/software/linkplanner/
There are others from enterprise p2p like Mimosa and Ruckus.
Anything above 11ghz is susceptible to rain fade so equipment should have a backup 5/6ghz
link.
KPFA is also open to sharing bandwidth, but unfortunately my time is stretched thin these
days, so if someone(s) did link planning, procured hardware, and was willing to do
physical install, we could potentially share space on our kpfb tower, and break off an IP
and some Mbps at the studios on MLK.
-Brian
On November 3, 2022 3:30:35 AM UTC, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 8:00 AM ajay t
<atallam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Brian David
Chief Engineer KPFA
<snip>
Per gMaps it looks like a straight shot, however are there hills, tall
buildings, trees, etc? Is there a way to ascertain this online?
</snip>
There's a website that will help you figure out what obstructions there
are, and how high an antenna you would need to clear them, etc. I can't
find it this moment, but I'm asking the friend who sent me the link before,
I'll try to report back. Super useful!
And, hi all, miss you!
-Pete
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