Re: mesh Digest, Vol 119, Issue 4 - mesh

24 May 2023

Andrew,

I apologize if you haven't gotten the response that you desire, there are
so many communication channels available to us, that it's likely many don't
want to respond to your request via the email list.  Regardless, despite
your claims SudoMesh is not an inactive project.  As a distributed project,
Marc probably just doesn't feel like he should be making unanimous
decisions for the rest of the community.

I doubt you hurt Marc's feelings, but more failed to understand his
response: meeting are normally Tuesday nights at Omni Commons (where
Sudoroom is located).  If you come to Sudoroom's Hardware Hack night, most
of the Sudomesh folks will be there talking about Disaster Radio, a node
mount for the Sudomesh network, or our contributions to DWeb camp's Mesh
network that is coming up soon.

If you're looking for a Newbie night, this is still probably your best
bet.  As most folks don't have the bandwidth to commit to another night.
If Tuesday night doesn't work for you, and you know of a lot of other folks
that are new to ad-hoc mesh networks that would be interested feel free to
suggest something, I'm sure that it can be worked out, but again, attention
is a limited resource in most folk's lives.

Cheers,
Scott

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    1. Re: Resuming Sudo Mesh (Andrew R Gross)

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 From: Andrew R Gross &lt;arg5029(a)gmail.com&gt;
 Subject: [Mesh] Re: Resuming Sudo Mesh
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 I hope this isn't seen as hostile, but I think it's healthy -- especially
 in open source development projects -- to just communicate openly and
 honestly.

 There are people who are interested in learning about distributed mesh
 networks like Sudo Mesh, however Sudo Mesh is at this point an inactive
 project. I think the simplest way forward is to find a meeting time that
 works for as many people who are interested and then meet to share ideas
 and learn.

 I understand that the last time I tried to do this I hurt your feelings
 Marc. I'd like to ask for your guidance on how best to do this again in a
 way that respects your contributions. May I schedule a meeting so new
 people can meet and discuss this project? We'd love to have you present or
 leading, but if you don't have the time or are otherwise unable it would be
 very appreciated if you would cooperate with others working on this project
 without obstruction.

 Thanks,

 *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
 412.657.5332    -   shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>

 On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:25 AM Andrew R Gross &lt;arg5029(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

  Hey Marc,

 Is April 11th confirmed? Can I add that to the calendar and promote it at
 our April meeting?

 I’d still prefer if it were in that Wednesday if possible, but either is
 fine as long as I can get it on the calendar.

 Thanks,

 On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:07 PM Andrew R Gross &lt;arg5029(a)gmail.com&gt;  wrote:

> Would it be possible to schedule it for Wednesday, April 12th? I'd like
> to participate, but I can't attend on Tuesdays.
>
> *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
> 412.657.5332    -   shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 9:07 AM Andrew R Gross &lt;arg5029(a)gmail.com&gt; 
wrote:
 >
>> Hi Marc!
>>
>> I hope I didn't ruffle your feathers. The honest answer is that I've
>> been trying to reach you or one of the other folks from Sudo mesh for  a
few
 >> months, and since it wasn't working I
got this idea based on  Cunningham's
 >> law:
>>
>>
>> *"The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a
>> question; it's to post the wrong answer."*
>>
>> I figured that if I just started making plans it would probably get  back
 >> to someone in Sudo Mesh and they'd
reach out. And it worked!
>>
>> I hope you'll all forgive a bit of mischief in exchange for getting
>> folks together and warming things up a bit. With that, I am relieved  to
be
 >> free of any further planning duties. I am
still genuinely interested in
>> participating (in a very passive role!)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
>> 412.657.5332    -   shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 10:06 PM Marc Juul &lt;marc(a)juul.io&gt; wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone. Sorry I didn't see this thread until now. I had
>>> misconfigured my email filtering.
>>>
>>> The weekly sudo mesh meeting has traditionally happened on Tuesday
>>> evenings at the same time as sudo room hardware hacknight. We never
>>> officially announced a resumption of meetings after the pandemic but 
either
 >>> me or Camber have been present at
sudo room most Tuesdays from around  7:30
 >>> pm and I will be there this coming
Tuesday and happy to update people  on
 >>> what's going on with the various
sudo mesh projects. Unfortunately  myself
 >>> and Jenny will both be unable to
attend the next few Tuesdays after  that
 >>> but will be back for the April 11th
meeting. I've reached out to  Camber to
 >>> see if he can make it on the dates in
between.
>>>
>>> We used to have a monthly "open to newbies" meeting that is more
>>> publicly announced and it might be about time to restart that, but it 
might
 >>> be better to push it until April 11th
also because it'd be nice to do  some
 >>> direct outreach to all the members of
sudo mesh to see who might not  be
 >>> monitoring this list very carefully.
>>>
>>> Of course if people want to meet up and hack on mesh stuff in the
>>> meantime and use this list to schedule it, then that's fine. It's
 just very
 >>> likely that none of the sudo mesh
members will be there after this  Tuesday
 >>> and until April 11th.
>>>
>>> For those just tuning in I should clarify that sudo mesh has long 
since
 >>> transitioned from a sudo room project
to being its own independent
>>> non-profit organization (501c3) and big shoutout to Jenny for taking 
care
 >>> of all the paperwork, insurance and
paying of bills for the past  several
 >>> years!
>>>
>>> We are currently drafting a post-pandemic update/newsletter outlining
>>> our activities since 2020 and some next steps / upcoming projects 
we'd love
 >>> to get new folks involved with!
>>>
>>> --
>>> marc/juul
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 7:27 AM Andrew R Gross &lt;arg5029(a)gmail.com&gt;
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> I want to plan a Sudo Mesh event. I'd like to get folks together,
>>>> review all the existing materials and spitball ideas for what we'd
 like to
 >>>> do with Sudo Mesh.
>>>>
>>>> I want to be upfront: I know Sudo Mesh was developed by a lot of 
smart
 >>>> people through a lot of hard
work, and I don't want to deny them  their due
 >>>> or agency over this project. So
if someone -- anyone -- who has  worked on
 >>>> this before I showed up wants to
guide the next steps, I would love  that.

>>>
>>> To start with, I'm wondering how many people are seeing this message?
>>> If you see this and are interested in getting involved or getting
>>> reinvolved, please speak up.
>>>
>>> *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
>>> 412.657.5332    -   shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>
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>> --  *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)*
 412.657.5332    -   shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>