While this is something I couldn't participate in, I hope hanging out helps
me learn more about it. Perhaps next time I can help with something that
can be done down at the table such as adjust the routers?
I'm the one with questions about whether it is possible (or even wise) to
build local political relationships to boost local library wifi out into
surrounding neighborhoods. Then Mesh concepts could be used from there. I
ask because I see an opening to develop that kind of relationship and ask
for civic space goods in South Berkeley. The City is sidling up to us
because they need to show they worked with the community when they apply
for big Federal transportation grants later.
Matt and Jenny brought up some concerns about using libraries as signal
sources:
1) Library workers are unionized and will object to putting Mesh software
on their computers. They have a select set of software they have agreed to
maintain. Software conflicts may cause unanticipated conflicts and create
extra work for them.
2) Libraries block some content.
3) Libraries turn off their wifi when they close, and their hours may
change according to city budget.
I've had some fantastic opportunities lately to pursue the "boosting
library wifi" idea, but I want to make sure this is a good thing to pursue
before I do. The impression I got from a chat with Jenny yesterday is Mesh
just wasn't ready to work with the library scenario yet, but there was no
legal/political problem with discussing it. The chorus of advice is to
"bring it up with April!"
I did have a really sweet opportunity on Saturday to bring Mesh up with my
Council Member, and in the current situation it's possible those
opportunities might come up a few more times. I'd welcome any guidance
about what to do (or NOT to do) on such occasions.
~ Elisa
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Tom <tomwrites326(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sudo meshers,
>>
>> I had a great time helping install the Ethernet with you and wanted to
>> thank everyone for such a fun day today. I learned a lot I didn't know, and
>> I'm always gratefull for to learn from those opportunities.
>>
>> I really appreciated the chance to follow the installation with you, and
>> learning the openwrt flashing and soldering the tp-link boards, really
>> expanded my technological horizons. Special thanks to Max and Mark for
>> showing me the ins and outs of cabling/routers/re-configuring wrt power
>> supplies, etc.!
>>
>
>
> Thanks to everyone for coming and doing so much work!
>
> I'm calling it a night. We had six routers and five long ethernet cables
> to run to cover a 22,000 square foot building!
>
> Here's what we accomplished today:
>
> * Completed: Two ballroom ethernet cable runs: One at each end of ballroom.
> * Completed: One ethernet cable run to far end of disco room (except
> crimping)
> * Completed: One ethernet cable run to Counter Culture Labs
> * In progress: One ethernet cable run to basement (need long drill)
> * In progress: One ethernet cable run to La Commune (unsure how far it got)
> * Two routers mounted on walls: Disco room and Counter Culture Labs
> * All six routers modified for power over ethernet
> * All six routers flashed with OpenWRT
>
> Yay! Maybe next Sunday we can finish the remaining tasks:
>
> * Finish last two cable runs
> * Mount last four routers
> * Configure routers (we might work on this Thursday)
>
> --
> marc/juul
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Hi all,
As it seems some Ethernet runs are planned for today, I was thinking about
power distribution also for the Beagle Bone Blacks (maybe not Blacks but
anyhow) recc'd by Marc to control electronic access at each door needing it.
Stringing extension cords & wall warts from ea. BBB - door set is both not
code-worthy (if an inspector really wanted to bust our balls since
'permanent' extension cords are called out), multiple AC>DC conversion
is also power-inefficient, prone to power loss/unplugging & and may require
further electrical work to bring outlets closer to some doors..
Since I understood that BBB's don't accept Power over Ethernet (PoE) I was
considering central low-voltage power distribution through a single
Variac-type DC power supply, DC PDU, PowerPole connectors and the zipline
of appropriate gauge for the runs to deliver ~5VDC at the BBB endpoints (I
have done this before).
However (even if it is not as power-efficient) if we are injecting at
Sudo's racks it seems we could use Ethernet for power if
we inject 12VDC PoE, then break it out at the end to a cheap 12>5VDC
adapter which could in turn feed the 5VDC port on the BBB's - check out the
last post of:
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/beagleboard/nrRZJkCWQa0
If we're running the thicker-gauge pairs in cat6 (compared to Cat5(e)), we
might be able to get away with 5VDC injectors but probably the injection
point would have to be more centralized within the building than the racks
in sudo room - like in the basement furnace room e.g., which makes most
sense to me as the central distribution point for Ethernet runs around the
building, due to it's centrality, the ease of running
into/along ducting/registers, proximity to the basement,
perimeter crawlspaces, the ease of lateral runs through the basement, etc.
Love
David
We're running ethernet cable and installing wifi routers at Omni tomorrow
at 1 pm!
We're low on hammers, so bring one if you can. We will need them to attach
cable clip nails.
If you have a really long drill bit for punching through walls that might
come in handy. I'm not sure we'll need it (most walls at Omni are very
thin), but if you have one bring it!
also bring snacks/drinks if you can (caffeine > alcohol)
I will try to brew some (non-carbonated) sudo mate :)
hack hack hack!
--
marc/juul
I got a propane BBQ yesterday and I want to try it out!
Today (Tuesday) isn't going to be quite as warm as yesterday, at least not
in the evening, so how's about we meet at my place in West Oakland, at 6 pm
(before it gets cold and dark) with our laptops and some stuff to throw on
the barbie and then head to the New Parkway to watch Ex Machina?
http://thenewparkway.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_%28film%29
Good idea? Bad idea?
( i'm in the mood for celebrating a bit since the CCL kickstarter just
reached its goal :)
--
marc/juul
Tom: Sunday 1PM.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Mesh] Omni wifi installation party Sunday June 14th
To: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>
Sounds good! I'll see then! :)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, danarauz(a)gmail.com <danarauz(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like fun! -I could stop by for a few hours. When do we start? :)
>>
>
> How about 1 pm?
>
> --
> marc/juul
>
The new wifi router budget request has been approved and the routers will
arrive before June 14th.
I propose we spend Sunday June 15th running CAT6 throughout the building
and configuring and installing the routers.
Who can make it?
Tasks:
* Plan router locations and wifi channels
* Plan cable runs to locations, ensuring it's doable
* Run CAT6 cable nicely along the walls to six different locations
* Find power supplies that will work with passive PoEs to power routers
* Open routers and solder two wires to make them PoE enabled
* Flash routers with OpenWRT and configure correctly
We should totally bring food and caffeinated drinks to make it all more
enjoyable! I can brew up a batch of (non-carbonated) sudo mate!
--
marc/juul
I can be there. What time?
Tom
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> The new wifi router budget request has been approved and the routers will
> arrive before June 14th.
>
> I propose we spend Sunday June 15th running CAT6 throughout the building
> and configuring and installing the routers.
>
> Who can make it?
>
> Tasks:
>
> * Plan router locations and wifi channels
> * Plan cable runs to locations, ensuring it's doable
> * Run CAT6 cable nicely along the walls to six different locations
> * Find power supplies that will work with passive PoEs to power routers
> * Open routers and solder two wires to make them PoE enabled
> * Flash routers with OpenWRT and configure correctly
>
> We should totally bring food and caffeinated drinks to make it all more
> enjoyable! I can brew up a batch of (non-carbonated) sudo mate!
>
