- mesh - sudoroom.org

by mark burdett

Hi, I'd like to get some stickers and t-shirts printed :) t-shirts could be sold for a significant chunk of the cost of a node. and stickers can go on routers, folks' laptops, window of business running a mesh node, etc. What do folks think? --mark B.

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Mesh hardware has arrived!

by Marc Juul

Hi folks. The $2000 mesh hardware has arrived. Jenny and myself have spent the evening going through everything and making an inventory of what we have, what we need to get everything into working order and how much appears to work. We did a power-on test of all hardware (except the AirGrids which are weird and don't connect them to anything unless you know what you're doing or they'll fry!). The summary is that, we have the following working outdoor gear at our disposal: *15 nice big 2.4 ghz omni antennas with rooftop mounting brackets *18 nice slightly less big 2.4 ghz omni antennas *76 Ubiquiti Picostation 2 HPs *29 Ubiquiti Bullet 2 HPs *3 Ubiquiti AirGrid M5s *2 Ubiquiti Nanobridge M5s *1 Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 There were only three picostations out of the whole lot that did not power on and they're not included in the above count. If we count gear bought by Jenny and myself outside of this auction, that means we have enough for. *105 2.4 ghz street level (or rooftop) nodes. *13x 5 ghz rooftop nodes. *A few (10-20?) 2.4 ghz indoor nodes. There's a more detailed inventory here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Inventory With info on what we need to buy to get everything working. We also have spreadsheets with even more detail and serial numbers written down that we'll get online soon. Everything without serial numbers is in boxes with serial numbers.

12 years, 3 months

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Re: [Mesh] [sudo-discuss] [OpenOakland Brigade] [OpenOakland] Community Wireless Networks Across America

by Miguel Vargas

Steve, Yes! We've been on the hunt for locations in the hills. Lets coordinate a scouting trip to your house with a couple people from the mesh team. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not really sure if this is useful or not, but I'd be willing to donate a > spot on my roof for an antenna. I'm part way up the hills, and have a line > of sight view of Lake Merritt, chunks of downtown, and a wide swath of the > flats of Oakland, Emeryville, and Berkeley. Not sure if I can see the > sudoroom, as it is probably obscured by some taller buildings between here > and there. > > http://goo.gl/maps/bGpNk > > Is this useful? Perhaps as a relay between different neighborhoods or > something? > > -steve > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Miguel Vargas <unroar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Reading that description I'd say our mesh network project at sudoroom is > probably farther along than what he's offering for giving help, though it > would still be great to get his help. We recently purchased 100 routers and > our putting together plans for doing outreach in a neighborhood, which is > probably going to be San Antonio in Fruitvale. > > If anybody is thinking of donating please consider giviving to our local > project instead at > https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> There's an active Mesh Network project in Oakland once again, the central >> locus of which is at Sudoroom. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, howard dyckoff <howarddy(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Most of the Mesh network activity was previously confined to SF. >>> >>> I think there was some activity in North Oakland 2-3 years back. >>> >>> If I recall correctly, the cells have to be within half a mile or a >>> third of a mile of each other.... pls verify, I'm sure the range has >>> increased gradually. >>> >>> And I think the min cost of a local neighborhood transmitter and >>> antennae was between $500 and $1000 a few years ago. I hope that pricing >>> is better now. >>> >>> The problem, I think , is that the areas most in need of this have fewer >>> and less successful neighborhood associations and fewer households that >>> could afford to setup mesh nodes. >>> >>> That's unfortunate since this could provide really inexpensive internet >>> access for everyone. >>> >>> I am sure "Business Improvement Districts" could be involved, but there >>> are few of them operating in East and West Oakland. We'd need a big >>> grant to cover those areas -- or a lot of neighborhood organizing. >>> >>> And we'd have to plan for some of the equipment being stolen. As an >>> example, the new library at 81st Ave, where we held an event earlier this >>> year, had many of its computers stolen a few weeks after it opened. >>> >>> But I don't want to be too negative here. I would definitely support >>> this effort. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Eddie Tejeda <eddie(a)codeforamerica.org>wrote: >>> >>>> Hey everyone! >>>> >>>> Checkout this cool project by Preston Rhea, from Open Technology >>>> Institute at the New America Foundation. He's thinking that Oakland will be >>>> one of the pilot cities. There are existing local mesh network projects in >>>> the area, right? People know how those projects are doing? This could be a >>>> collaborative opportunity. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://crowdhitch.millennialtrain.co/campaign/detail/1330 >>>> >>>> >>>> The project is to spread locally-managed community wireless mesh >>>>> networks around the country. I'll teach local technologists and community >>>>> organizers how to use regular Wi-Fi routers and free, open source software >>>>> to build their own community Internet infrastructure. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The project will use Commotion <http://commotionwireless.net/>, a >>>>> free, open source software project designed to make it easy for anyone to >>>>> set up their own mesh network. We'll share tools and methods for >>>>> participatory technology pedagogy, and the routers that we set up together >>>>> will remain with the locals to seed their own mesh networks. With these >>>>> seeds spread, people in each city can continue to grow locally-managed >>>>> Internet networks and spur innovation on a shared platform accessible to >>>>> any resident. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Eddie A. Tejeda >>>> @eddietejeda >>>> 2012 Fellow, Code for America >>>> http://codeforamerica.org >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "OpenOakland" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAALX_7Y--m8x0%3DnuHdvQWAOCRJ… >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "OpenOakland" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAGOPvtFSs8JtEGTapLhZfmK%3DxZ… >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tony Barreca >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca >> Skype: tonybarreca >> Twitter: tbarreca >> Mobile: (510) 710-5864 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenOakland" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CADq-UhNou4%2BziqqZvGDsjyryJm… >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > >

12 years, 3 months

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Re: [Mesh] [OpenOakland Brigade] [OpenOakland] Community Wireless Networks Across America

by Tony Barreca

There's an active Mesh Network project in Oakland once again, the central locus of which is at Sudoroom. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, howard dyckoff <howarddy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Most of the Mesh network activity was previously confined to SF. > > I think there was some activity in North Oakland 2-3 years back. > > If I recall correctly, the cells have to be within half a mile or a third > of a mile of each other.... pls verify, I'm sure the range has increased > gradually. > > And I think the min cost of a local neighborhood transmitter and antennae > was between $500 and $1000 a few years ago. I hope that pricing is better > now. > > The problem, I think , is that the areas most in need of this have fewer > and less successful neighborhood associations and fewer households that > could afford to setup mesh nodes. > > That's unfortunate since this could provide really inexpensive internet > access for everyone. > > I am sure "Business Improvement Districts" could be involved, but there > are few of them operating in East and West Oakland. We'd need a big > grant to cover those areas -- or a lot of neighborhood organizing. > > And we'd have to plan for some of the equipment being stolen. As an > example, the new library at 81st Ave, where we held an event earlier this > year, had many of its computers stolen a few weeks after it opened. > > But I don't want to be too negative here. I would definitely support this > effort. > > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Eddie Tejeda <eddie(a)codeforamerica.org>wrote: > >> Hey everyone! >> >> Checkout this cool project by Preston Rhea, from Open Technology >> Institute at the New America Foundation. He's thinking that Oakland will be >> one of the pilot cities. There are existing local mesh network projects in >> the area, right? People know how those projects are doing? This could be a >> collaborative opportunity. >> >> >> http://crowdhitch.millennialtrain.co/campaign/detail/1330 >> >> >> The project is to spread locally-managed community wireless mesh >>> networks around the country. I'll teach local technologists and community >>> organizers how to use regular Wi-Fi routers and free, open source software >>> to build their own community Internet infrastructure. >> >> >> >>> >>> The project will use Commotion <http://commotionwireless.net/>, a free, >>> open source software project designed to make it easy for anyone to set up >>> their own mesh network. We'll share tools and methods for participatory >>> technology pedagogy, and the routers that we set up together will remain >>> with the locals to seed their own mesh networks. With these seeds spread, >>> people in each city can continue to grow locally-managed Internet networks >>> and spur innovation on a shared platform accessible to any resident. >> >> >> -- >> Eddie A. Tejeda >> @eddietejeda >> 2012 Fellow, Code for America >> http://codeforamerica.org >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenOakland" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAALX_7Y--m8x0%3DnuHdvQWAOCRJ… >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenOakland" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAGOPvtFSs8JtEGTapLhZfmK%3DxZ… > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Tony Barreca LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca Skype: tonybarreca Twitter: tbarreca Mobile: (510) 710-5864

12 years, 3 months

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Meeting notes 6/13

by Miguel Vargas

Good meeting last night. We covered a lot of ground. I've tried to highlight action items in red below. Wepay campaign: at 2/3ds. $1293. We have 100 mesh routers. Goals of the mesh project: - off the grid communication, - create an alternate way to communicate. more controlled by the people - a way for disadvantage people to get internet access - sustainable business model - share internet connections. everybody has to buy their own internet connection - usable phone service. - why are you paying comcast? - load balancing - access to the internet - .oakland domain name - replacing the internet not controled by the powers - encryption by default - low-bandwidth free internet Name: - sudonet mesh - sudomesh - confusion with the word psuedo - 510pen - optomesh ?? Organization: - nonprofit - 501c3 - paperwork - lots of tax forms - under noisebridge - nonprofit isp run by volunteers - 501c4 same benefits as 501c3 - “social welfare” organization - still get donor tax deduction - orgs might have bias against them - coops - can’t get tax deductible donations - nonprofit where donating can get you on the board - we need to talk to lawyers Business models - cost - buying routers - people adopt routers - people buy routers - couple of full time real employees - mounting routers/antennae - managing of network - bandwidth - electricity - advertising on splash page - name the wifi network as the web address - sell service to business districts - digital bulletin boards - skill share board - begging for cash model - OLPC model, - people pay 2x for themselves and someone else - ISPs ToS don’t allow you to share bandwidth - get local ISPs to contribute - monkeybrains? - competing with Unwired, and their radio frequency - legal advisers??? Metaplanning for node deployment - get in touch with people that have mesh network experience - get familiar - look at google earth for 3d building structures - ham license - study cram sessions - get in touch with that community - aprs network by ham radio operators - weather - packet radio - allows you to mount masts - allows you to amplify wifi - fog/rain? - aprs.fi Mesh protocol Openwrt - cjdns - new - runs as a program - scales ? - encrypted by default - untested - batman-adv - lower level - efficient multicast - no encryption - olsr - older - runs as a program - runs on a lot of devices - more tested - 2000-3000 node network - every node can be part of the mesh - windows, android, linux - babel - really easy?? - Create an image that you can flash on all routers, two options: - script after boot - web page that generates a custom compile - Get people with experience to come talk to us Plan for testing received hardware and inventory management - 100 routers - mostly ubiquity picostations - tagging - barcodes - put it in a spreasheet - etch them end - test them all Plan for getting the local community involved and finding people willing to adopt a node - highschools and college students - Community watch - neighborhood survaillance - generalized outreach Action items - form sub groups Neighborhood choice - San Antonio neighborhood - we have a good partners in the community - LOLspace/Bikery - none of us live there - maybe harder to do troubleshooting/outreach - West Oakland neighborhood

12 years, 3 months

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Meeting tonight at 8:30 pm in sudo room

by Marc Juul

With the recent crowd funding campaign and router purchase we're moving rapidly from "group of people interest in mesh" towards becoming a sizable physical mesh. There is much work ahead of us. I suggest that we have a two-hour meeting, with at least the following agenda items (feel free to add more): *Choosing a name :Are we 510pen or sudo mesh or sudo net or something else? We don't need to decide today, but I want to hear people's thoughts. *Formalize organization :Begin writing articles of association. Choice of 501c3 or other group. Getting umbrellaed until we can get 501c3 status. *"Business model" brainstorm :Let's throw some ideas on the table. I'm assuming we'll soon need two full-time people working on this project. How do we make that happen, how do we get internet bandwidth and how do we keep the mesh going indefinitely? *Metaplanning for node deployment :Researching deployment strategies. Mapping suitable locations. Mounting strategies for rooftops, walls and windows. Mapping out available spectrum and channel usage. *Final decision on initial mesh protocol :Maybe the best way to decide is to choose one and see how well it works in the initial 100-node mesh and then switch to something else if it sucks? *Firmware plan :What do we need the firmware to do? Let's delegate the different aspects (splash page? IP allocation? IPv6? ZeroConf? gateway selection? http proxy?) *Plan for testing received hardware and inventory management :The 100 routers should arrive Monday. How do we test, tag and log? Does it make sense to use barcode or rfid tags (barcodes can fade in the sun and maybe rfid tags are slightly activated by the wifi signal and cause interference) *Plan for getting the local community involved and finding people willing to adopt a node :Longer term, maybe we can reach out to local highschools and colleges for a node deployment workforce. Could look good on their college applications if we pitch it right! *Marketing :Fliers? Website? Splash page design? For people who have time but can't come in person, we'll try to set up a google hangout. For people who don't have time, please chime in over email with your ideas / suggestions. As always the meeting minutes will be available online after the meeting. Mesh the planet! -- Marc

12 years, 3 months

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Crowdfunding campaign

by Marc Juul

Yay! We're over one third of the way there with the crowdfunding campaign: https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network I set up a few alternate ways to help out here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh#Crowdfunding_campaign We could use some reddit upvotes: http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1g90fu/bootstrapping_the_oakla… I also made a bitcoin wallet address, which I'll give here as well: 12RxU4DpLpdWcmEBn7Tj325CCXBwt5i9Hc To protect us from someone changing the address, I protected the main mesh wiki page so only admins can change it. Please give me your wiki logins so i can make you admins (if you're interested). -- Marc

12 years, 3 months

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Mesh WePay Campaign

by Jenny Ryan

Hey friends! Our WePay campaign is live, and it would be awesome if those of you who said you'd loan or donate to the cause could contribute there: https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network I will probably raise it to $3000 and articulate exactly what the budget is allocated to. Let me know if you think of copy/design tweaks, and please share widely on your networks. Praveen awesomely promoted a Facebook post about the campaign, which is getting some good attention now <3 Oh, and y'all are welcome to attend this event Open Garden is hosting at Orange this Thursday (after which I'm heading to sudo to meet with y'all!): http://we-are-the-network.eventbrite.com - Please RSVP if you want to come :) ~!~!~!~!~ Mesh the Planet! ~!~!~!~!~ Love, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 3 months

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International Summit for Community Wireless Networks | 2-4 October 2013 | Berlin

by Eddan Katz

Deadline for submissions extended until July 1. http://2013.wirelesssummit.org/ sent from eddan.com

12 years, 3 months

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Soon!

by Marc

The first 8 rooftop nodes! Freestation 2, nanostation m5, nanobridge m5, 4x bullet m5, rocket m5, 5x PoE with remote reset and ground, 3x PoE with ground.

12 years, 3 months

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New hardware

by Marc Juul

So, as some of you know, Jenny and myself have invested in the following hardware: 5 ghz 802.11n hardware: 4x Bullet M5 HP - 150 mbps - needs external antenna 1x Nanostation M5 - 300 mbps - semi-directional panel antenna 1x Nanobridge M5 high-gain - 300 mbps - directional parabolic antenna 2.4 ghz 802.11n hardware: 1x Freestation 2 - 300 mbps - semi-directional panel atenna Here are my experiences with the gear so far. The Freestation OpenWRT image has a bug in it that makes it unusable after flashing. It should be easy to recover from using the serial console though. I've successfully put OpenWRT on one of the Bullet M5s. It's easy to flash the Ubiquiti gear with tftp. Easier than the flashing the Asus routers. When testing the Bullet M5s I noticed that the original firmware has a really cool feature. It's a frequency analyzer for the 5 ghz spectrum that will allow us to find out which parts of the spectrum are most free of noise and other signals in different areas. We could mount one of these Bullets on a pole on a bike with a battery and then bike around Oakland to create a map of how much interference we'll be dealing with in different areas! I put some info on it on the wiki: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Software_tools I haven't done anything with the nanostation or nanobridge yet. As a side note, it seems like the Freestation routers might be going out of production. Some sellers stopped selling them and the price has dropped to $60 for the 2.4 ghz models and $70 for the 5 ghz models. That's a bit sad, as they seem like a pretty good deal, but maybe that means we'll be able to get them for cheap. I created a wish list with gear for all price ranges, so you can point people here if they'd rather donate a thing than cash :-) https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Wishlist -- Marc Juul

12 years, 3 months

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Router Reuse Donation Drive

by Jenny Ryan

Dear Sudoers, Give us your old, your broken, your wireless routers yearning to be free... We will take them, and make them great once more (access points too!) –part of the mesh, the metamycelia of our dreams. In the stack of crates that creates our cubbies, there is a place... For your lost ones, potential nodes in a network more aptly befitting of the revolution. Contribute them, anonymously if you wish, or sudonoymously, be you a phish! Love, the Seriously Silly Sudo Society (https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh) -------- Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 3 months

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Cjdns

by Alcides Gutierrez

Hello everyone! I hung out with dan and bentley from seattle on mumble last night to clear up some things about cjdns. Most of the following i already knew but wanted to confirm my understanding before elaborating. Before i continue, id like to say that while i prefer cjdns, i support people deploying what they are more comfortable with. There exist several connected communities with different protocols running. I heard of some in Italy that connect batman-adv communties through babeld communities in the middle. So cjdns is indeed a mesh protocol and does not require the internet (which is also a mesh net) to work. What it does require is a connection (radios, wires, switches, etc.). It may have required the internet to get it off the ground but telecommix helped a great deal with their ethernet interface contribution. And cjdns can act as a gateway to the internet or it can be completely isolated from it. So you can provide internet access or you can have a darknet (not to be confused with an anonymous darknet). Or you can connect your local darknet to another local darknet over the internet. While cjdns differs from other protocols in routing techniques, its not because the developer ignored the work behind other protocols. Instead it was felt that a different approach was needed. The approach started slow but seems to be in a great condition now. Routes are determined by bitshifting voodoo on the address packets and lowest latency and lowest packet loss. Every node keeping track of routes to addresses near its own address space. As it stands now, cjdns operates on layers 2 & 3. It sets up routing tables up to 1mb in size and prunes unused & poor connections (not sure if its only when a limit is reached). It is not meant to anonymize traffic but instead offer privacy through native encryption. Tor, i2p, and any other service can operate on cjdns. Im also told that the code is pleasant on the eyes, so you might like to start with https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/admin/angel/Angel.c It does throw people off initially because its not what they expect (batman,,tor,internet access, etc). Any specific concerns, please feel free to raise them. Ill be hanging out again tonight and Ill see what answers i can get. Alcides Gutierrez http://e64.us

12 years, 4 months

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Hack Night Tonight, 8:30pm @ sudo room

by Jenny Ryan

Meshfolk, We'll be installing batman and olsr on our various routers tonight and getting them to talk to each other. Let's also make sure to document our processes on the wiki: http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh Come ready to make a mesh! Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 4 months

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CJDNS fundraising for openwrt and Windows support.

by Alcides Gutierrez

If anyone is feeling generous, please pledge to cjdns support for openwrt and windows... http://fund.meshwith.me/ -- Alcides Gutierrez http://e64.us

12 years, 4 months

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Meeting Minutes 5/23

by Jenny Ryan

*Attendees:* Jenny, juul, substack, miguel, jordan, mark, rody *Announcements:* - We've started an IRC channel on Freenode IRC: #510pen - come chat! - Check the updated wiki at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh *Notes:* - Marc researched Freifunk, which is both a firmware project, group organization and many small meshes throughout Germany: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Freifunk - Firmware is interesting – community profiles for a) chipset b) language and c) city - Does the work for you – source code is available. - As a node, you get a static public IP - Commotion is based on the Freifunk - Available on more devices - Also works with OpenBTS - OLSR - Layer 3, no kernal module so takes more CPU resources - Has an Android, Mac, and Windows version - OLSR has a watchdog which auto-reboots - Batman-adv is only available on Linux – you could port the protocol - Hack to run DHCP to have dynamic IP assignments - How to assign IP addresses: We could only run ipv6 – much larger address space – for random assignments of static IPs - Hash the MAC address that's stored in a distributed manner - Planned vs dynamic mesh networks - Interoperability of protocols – batman as the backbone and OLSR/Babel on top - Open Mesh - Pay for faster access - Small businesses, schools, RV parks etc - Marc is going to buy a Freestation and some nanobridges ($85) - Omnis spread the signal too much - Ubiquiti sells antennas with 90 and 120 degree – this plus a router is $160-180 - Lasers! Temporary permits - Cell phone networks – you can run up to 100 milliwatts without a license - Critter (substack) - Re-sync once connected to the public network - Spot crowd-voting - 5Ghz Backbone and 2.4Ghz connections between - batman-adv: - multi-cast: avoids network saturation, allows for streaming that other nodes can choose to plug into - Major issue is latency in hops *Action Items:* - Art, propaganda, manifestos! - *mesh detected* - Explore batman vs olsr vs robin - Mesh reading group? - Start here: http://www.wndw.net/ - Today I Learned? June 8th is available - Radio show w/ Interviews? Jenny & Alcides - 1 page description of mesh to distribute to everyday folks - Let's make a mesh! - Test batman-adv for next week - Throughput and slow-down over multiple hops - Signal strength *Wishlist:* - Routers - Money - Routers full of money! - Nanostations: http://www.ubiquitiworks.com/NanoStation-Loco-M.asp?gclid=CIvbqPTVt7UCFSHZQ… - Freestations: http://www.antennas.com/freestation/ Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 4 months

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Wireless bridge vs mesh network

by Miguel Vargas

I thought this page was a good explanation of the difference between bridge vs mesh networks and when you would want to use which, http://www.connect802.com/meshcompare.htm

12 years, 4 months

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Meeting Tonight, 8pm at sudo

by Jenny Ryan

Last week we had an epic 9 hour hackathon, installing openwrt and batman-adv on a bunch of the routers at sudo room. Much learning was had! Check out our updated documentation at the wiki here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh Meeting tonight will be more focused on strategy and planning, though hacking on projects is also cool :) Topics include: -OLSR vs batman-adv vs cjdns -Updates on stable/high-bandwidth and low-bandwidth projects -Funding -Alcides & Hyperboria intro? See y'all in a few! Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 4 months

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Battlemesh endorsements

by Marc Juul

A list of some interesting groups that endorsed battlemesh. http://battlemesh.org/Endorsements2013 Still trying to find documentation on what happened at battlemesh. There may not be any :-( -- Marc

12 years, 4 months

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batman-adv README

by Miguel Vargas

Hi guys, Here is the README file I kept mentioning last night, https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/repository/revisions/master/e… It gives a simple explanation of batam-adv configuration without getting into batctl, just the config files. The interesting piece is that you need to provide an IP address to the bat0 interface. The idea is that all the bat0 interfaces in the network together act like a Layer 2 LAN. And just like a LAN you need to provide an IP address on the same subnet to each interface in order for any packet routing to happen. This is a problem for our idea of having a standard image that we can flash onto all routers since each router will have to have individual configuration. The standard solution for assigning IP addresses in a network is to use DHCP, but that is a problem because 1) we don't want any central control, 2) the network will probably end up being segmented into clusters that don't talk to each other. I was thinking one idea for assigning IP addresses could be to use IPv6 and map the interface's MAC address onto it, we could then have a configuration script to configure the address. But it turns out that this kind of thing is built into the IPv6 protocol [1] . This seems to be what the Quickstart guide is talking about when it says "You can now use the automatically assigned IPv6 link-local adresses on bat0 (usually starting with fe80::...), modern operating systems should support this." [2], although when I followed the guide I didn't see any auto-configured IPv6 address. I'm not very familiar with IPv6, I need to learn a lot more. Another issue with batman-adv being a pure Layer 2 protocol is that there needs to be some kind of Layer 3 routing protocol used on top of it in order to direct packets to where they need to go. It turns out that batman-adv has implemented such a thing as an optional 'gateway' feature. The gateway documentation is interesting because it seems to show some of the controversy generated around their philosophy of having a "clean network layer separation" [3]. This gateway feature piggybacks on DHCP, which has the problems I mentioned above. Anyway, we need to keep reading and testing, there is a lot for us to learn. It might be that we decide that batman-adv isn't the right choice for the network we want to build, I think last night was great for getting us towards making that decision. Though I think it's important for us to develop a stronger vision for what it is that we do want to build. Happy hacking. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_address#Stateless_address_autoconfigurati… [2] https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Quick-start-guide [3] http://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Gateways

12 years, 4 months

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Re: [Mesh] [sudo-discuss] Router Reuse Donation Drive

by Tony Barreca

Jenny, that was an exquisitely written solicitation. Is "metamycelia" an allusion to *Avatar*? It conjures up an image of dense fungi radiating vegetative consciousness! More pragmatically, I have a question for you and Marina: Do either of you remember seeing any wireless routers among the mounds of equipment at OTXW? If they have some, perhaps we can work out a mutually beneficial deal. On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote: > ....and we will fix them on fixit day tomorrow at 2PM! :) > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Today_I_Learned#May_18_Fix-It_Day.21_.28PLUS… > > - Marina > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Sudoers, >> >> >> Give us your old, your broken, >> >> your wireless routers yearning to be free... >> >> >> We will take them, and make them >> >> great once more (access points too!) >> >> –part of the mesh, the metamycelia >> >> of our dreams. >> >> >> In the stack of crates >> >> that creates our cubbies, >> >> there is a place... >> >> >> For your lost ones, potential nodes >> >> in a network more aptly befitting >> >> of the revolution. >> >> >> Contribute them, anonymously if you wish, >> >> or sudonoymously, be you a phish! >> >> >> Love, >> >> the Seriously Silly Sudo Society >> >> (https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh) >> >> -------- >> Jenny >> http://jennyryan.net >> http://thepyre.org >> http://thevirtualcampfire.org >> http://technomadic.tumblr.com >> >> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." >> -Laurie Anderson >> >> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining >> it." >> -Hannah Arendt >> >> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >> -Stéphane Mallarmé >> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > -- Tony Barreca LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca Skype: tonybarreca Twitter: tbarreca Mobile: (510) 710-5864

12 years, 4 months

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Meeting Minutes 5/9 + Hacking Tomorrow @ sudo

by Jenny Ryan

Sorry these are so late, y'all! We're meeting up tomorrow (Thursday) @ 6pm, sudo room to play with new routers and install OpenWRT + batman/babel/what-have-you. Reposting these to our wiki under 'Meeting Minutes': https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh =Attendees= *alex, substack, juul, yardena, jenny, miguel, forrest =Fundamental Questions= ==Why be on a local network?== *Overcoming alienation, loss of community *Supporting local organizations and businesses *Emergency communications (natural disaster, censorship, etc) =Things we need= *Ladder *Binoculars *Let's make a wishlist! =Ideas= *Omnidirectional on the hilltops with directional antennae, buy 1 donate one to 510pen *Mapping collective houses and apartment buildings with rooftop accesss *College dorms who'd want a secure network for file-sharing =Notes= “TCP/IP was designed to work over any kind of layout and not just the booming voice of the master, which is what we currently have” -yardena *meshing protocol handles the routing *master mode only useful if you want to appear as a wireless access point *ARP (address resolution protocol) cache which identifies the network cards on machines **^data link layer *delivery is much less efficient due to needing to broadcast *delivery speed is highest to its adjacent neighbors *message queues through key value stores *bootstrapping list =Low Bandwidth Emergency Communications Project= *talk to juul, legind or jerkey (often on irc) *Played with it Sunday and Monday – what kind of transmitter do we build? The cheap USB sticks don't go above 64 mHz *Trying to find a cheap transmitter that can do more than 9600 baud *APRS weather stations and some ham operators are already operating at that level **NarrowBandFM – use with 50 watt transmitters (5600?) **GPS transmits position, with repeaters operated by amateurs until it reaches an internet gateway in Finland which has a map **not very disaster proof, only 1200 baud *>1mbps OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplexing, similar to CDMA) modulation, which is also used for wifi – spread spectrum technique that uses frequencies which are orthogonal, so you won't get any noise from the adjacent channels (less interference) *<$150 transmitter *can be tuned into legal frequencies later *“ssh is the first thing i'd want in an emergency' *→ but most nodes are just going to be receivers *49 mHz, kind of abandoned territory – 49 is analog - *transmit-capable SDR on new 4G devices *build the transmitter, and use the audio port – seeking to design that =relaychum: friend-to-friend darknet= *https://github.com/substack/relaychum *every message goes to every node, but the senders are completely anonymous (as are the recipients), *still needs crypto and signing, then a mailbox system *indexdb: permanent storage in a browser *compensates even on a crappy network *once back online, can propagate out to the network *written in node.js *partition-tolerant darknet *public keys from chums *chum rings! and also bigger rings *every node is relaying traffic, so the identity of the originator can't be traced *liquid chat room *inspired by homestuck comic - 'pesterchum' *creating a trust network *by writing it in node it can also run in browsers *pushing out public keys to the network **don't want that information contained in the key itself **could hash the keys *=Funding=* *What are our costs? *Routers, minimum specs: **4MB+ & OpenWRT compatible **check seattle meshnet wiki for hardware specs *Router donation drive *Which protocol? **batman-adv vs babel vs. cjdns **open-mesh.org – has the documentation for batman **Babel seems easier **Still need to play with cjdns *Captive portal *Serving less than 1kb locally =Rad Routers= *WRT54G – rev 2 (NOT rev 3 or 4) *Asus RT n10+ series routers are highly reliable *WR703N router – half watt routers =Divergence into political philosophy= *“the whole stupid is greater than the sum of its stupids” *amplification of the spectacle *the best response is finding alternatives to fear – eg joyful emotion and communitas *the generative internet rather than walled, open architecture & decentralized human and machine apis *digital citizenship movement *redefining the commons *revived calia proposal *destabilizing foreign governments does go hand in hand with CISPA-type proposals *Border routers in Australia =Action Items= *Meshathon! (future event) **Get 3 routers and get them talking to each other. **Setting up a tiny mesh can take less than 4 hours *David Gothberg talk, “Peer-to-peer Under the Hood”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzMNjW8oGs *Awesome Foundation proposal to fund initial hardware *Everyone should buy a router (or several) for themselves to play with =Next Meeting= *Thursday, 5/16, 6pm @ sudo room *Playing with new routers, installing OpenWRT and possibly batman-adv, babel

12 years, 4 months

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Meeting Tonight @ 8:30pm

by Jenny Ryan

Greetings meshfolks, Let's get together and hack on the following: -Updates from the low-bandwidth disaster recovery mesh that Marc, Bill & Jake have been working on -Funding: We're applying for an Awesome Foundation grant to purchase some equipment to test with. -One of the founders of AirJaldi and co-author of this awesome free e-book<http://www.wndw.net/>on developing wireless infrastructure in developing countries, wants to meet with us! Can we cohere enough of a group together to host him properly? -Oh yeah, Cjdns! Let's play wit it! It would be cool to mesh with our friends in #seattlemeshnet. The Project Meshnet wiki has a nice guide: https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Getting_started Other things to share, later on. Cheers, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 4 months

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Meeting Tonight, 8:30pm

by Jenny Ryan

Hey meshfolk, Let's meet tonight to articulate future directions and work on fundraising! 8:30pm, sudo room :) /jnny

12 years, 5 months

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TIER - Technology and Infrastructure for Emerging Regions

by Jenny Ryan

For work I've been advising a group in India who are working to bring internet connectivity to rural villages. Finding our little R&D project quite helpful in the process! In looking for mesh projects in India, I came across the Dharamsala Community Mesh project<http://www.docstoc.com/docs/143451940/The-Dharamsala-Community-Wireless-Mes…>, assisted by a group at Berkeley called TIER. Good stuff here: http://tier.cs.berkeley.edu/drupal/ See y'all tomorrow at 8:30! Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

12 years, 5 months

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