Hey y'all,
I'm currently running the localization via wifi as a service on my rpi:
100.65.27.66/
Let me know what you think. (It's a super ugly design, but it's a start.
This is my first time doing anything like this)
My guess is that for most people, the intersection between the BSSIDs they
can see and those in the database will be empty, but let me know if this is
not the case.
best,
Arthur
PS. It's pretty straighforward to find nearby BSSIDs and RSSIs on mac and
linux. See
https://github.com/aetilley/wifi_localization/blob/master/localize_from_nea…
Hello friendly meshers!
The next Build Your Own Internet office hours* is this Sunday February 18th
from 1pm to late afternoon in SudoRoom
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Directions>.
Last week, folks did all kinds of awesome things, including (but not
limited to!):
- making rad signage
- creating a new BYOI workshop landing page
<https://peoplesopen.net/workshop.html>
- cleaning up and adding to the Mounting Guide
<https://github.com/sudomesh/mounting>
- creating People's Open Network
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Open_Network> and Sudo Room
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo_Room> pages on Wikipedia [ack! they are
now candidates for deletion! let's research
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28organizations_and_com…>
this
weekend and respond.]
- beginning the daunting process of cleaning up the SudoMesh wiki
<https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/wiki_cleanup>
- beginning to add templating back to the peoplesopen.netwebsite source code
- debugging the subtle but infamous exit node outage
This week's theme is *Protocols: who needs 'em anyway? certainly not me.
i'm through with protocols !*
It'll be a great time to continue all the awesome work listed above, start
a new project, or get newly acquainted with the mesh, this time (casually)
through the lens of protocols.
Some questions I have about protocols are: What are wikipedia's protocols
about article deletion and noteworthiness? How does the "babel" protocol,
currently in use by our mesh network, work? What social protocols do we use
at sudomesh to coordinate all of these awesome efforts?
🐴🐙🐨
As always, we'll be there to answer questions and learn from each other
about cable crimping, node flashing and mounting, as well as other aspects
of the project.
Hope to see you there!
--Benny
Hi!
Freifunk has been accepted to Google Summer of Code this year again.
GSoC is Google's program where students can get around $5000 for work on
an open source project over the summer. Freifunk serves as an umbrella
organization for many mesh/community networks/projects.
Maybe you have some ideas what students could work on? If so, consider
adding them to existing list:
https://projects.freifunk.net/
(PRs: https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents)
Maybe some of existing ideas would be something you would also care
about: maybe find a mentor from your network and volunteer to help guide
the student.
Or, maybe some of you are students who are already involved with the
project. This is also great: you could work through Google Summer of
Code this summer.
Mitar
--
http://mitar.tnode.com/https://twitter.com/mitar_m
this is beyond excellent, robb!
Jenny
Help open a professional kitchen at the Omni Commons in Oakland!
https://omnicommons.org/kitchen
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
"Anything done for the first time unleashes a demon."
--Dave Sim, "Cerebus the Aardvark"
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: robb <sf99er(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:15 AM
Subject: [sudo-discuss] byoi video on google drive
To: Sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
i uploaded an edited h.265 encoding of byoiv4 to google drive
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KV3OAG_P63mZ_wK_nqSjNDgpRnTLaQvS/view?usp=
sharing
~r
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Here are the SudoMesh meeting minutes from Tues, 6 Feb 2018:
Viewable online here:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/06_Feb_2018
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Peoples Open Meeting: Feb 6, 2018 19:30 - 21:30
* facilitator - blake
* stack taker: grant
* note taker: benny, juul + others
= previous action items =
* nycmesha meet-up summary / possible inspiration for community support -
jehan in absentia
* proposal for reorganize meetings
* node mount teaching session Sunday at 1pm - grant, jorrit
* byoi debrief
= agenda items =
(add your item below, with a time limit)
= intros: (5 min) =
* how you'd like to be addressed and favorite sport, n why we're here
* blake - skateboarding
* sierk - working on web app for disaster.radio and make it work with
firmware, puppy bowl
* jorrit - any sport that people actively do, here today to be here, learn
about what other people did and share
* grant - table tennis, ping pong, here to take notes
* benny - non competitive touch footbal, here to see what the meetings are
like, listen
* carl - drunken chess, here to see what's going on
* marc/juul - sportsball
* jenny, basketball, not actually there
* Tommy - likes to sleep
* jeff - ultimate
* lesley - I've never understood how people feel watching sports, except
for maybe the lee sedol vs. alpha go tournament.
= updates & reportbacks =
* SudoPad documentation (1 min) -
** grant - in progress, almost done - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/SudoPad
- also added to https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Distributed_Services
** grant - suggests we could turn it into an ansible playbook
** sierk - use ansible to document what is run on the sudomesh server
** grant - long-term action item: document what is running on the sudomesh
server
* (brief announce) - Jenny scheduled a CORE I training @ Omni for March
8th, 6-8pm: http://www2.oaklandnet.com/government/o/OFD/s/CORE/index.htm
** City of Oakland provides free trainings to neighborhood groups for how
to organize disaster recovery community response. good learnings for mesh &
disaster radio and opportunity for local outreach
* node mount (10 min)
** outreach email template (please hack) -
https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/outreach_email
** jnny: AJ+ (see below) wants to film a mount in the next 2 weeks. suggest
richmond tower if we can get equipment in time? also repinging lolspace
(they'd ask me to circle back in march but may be interested in
participating in the docu short. for feb 18?
* jorrit: thought folks were very engaged. started making a mounting guide.
took photos of the things you need. created a signal group specifically for
people to get familiar with how to prepare for a node mount.
https://github.com/sudomesh/mounting
** blake: do you think we should continue to do these things
**grant: yeah it's good to formalize and make the sundays open to the
public. i'd like to see people sign up to volunteer to be there and talk to
people. Would be nice to be able to coordinate node mounts there and to
teach people how to mount nodes.
** jorrit: we should make sure people get there early to set up.
** grant: it's a good idea to have someone to talk to for new people.
** jorrit: needs a big group of volunteers to do because otherwise people
are going to burn out.
** mai: does it make sense to have it every week? or alternate node mount
with office hours
** jorrit: we should decouple office hours and node mounts.
** mai: i feel like the peple who are able to do node mounts and the people
who can run office hours, there's a lot of overlap. we should be aware of
our bandwidth. this sunday i plan to be there and i don't know how to do a
node mount.
** jorrit: we need more people to get familiar with node mounts.
** grant: the person who's the volunteer dosn't need to know how to mount
nodes. very minimal requirements.
** jorrit: i'd be ok volunteering for office hours but not organizing a
node mount
** mai: i can be there. what does organizing office hours entail?
** jorrit: announcing it.
https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hourshttps://gist.github.com/otakup0pe/b960646d3f6b41927dbab2f00a6bb24a
* meeting re-org (5 min)
** blake: we're trying to make the meetings go a bit more smoothly but
having an agenda and specified times for different sections. I will send
out the notes from the meeting re-org discussion
** grant: one of the things we discussed was putting safer space policy or
similar at the top of the meeting notes to make it explicit.
** blake: want to give the meetings better structure to make them go more
smoothly.
* bug/help wanted review (2 mins) - https://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted
** jorrit: i created a redirect for /helpwanted. first one is tunnelbroker.
the exit node has been down for ~5 days. three people complained. been
trying to build this thing called tunneldigger-lab. marc has been
troubleshooting. yar has been troubleshooting. i'll briefly touch on the
others. daniel reported that we should disable remote logging. there's the
can't watch netflix movie issue. one is a featur request to decide how to
allocate bandwidth. last one is a bug that has been fixed but not rolled
out.
* discuss why donation and sunday mount documents were open for anyone to
edit (https://peoplesopen.net/donation / https://peoplesopen.net/sundays )
and how to avoid this in the future (5 mins)
** jenny: don't see a problem with having transparent finances. not sure
about the sundays spreadsheet but i probably am to blame. it's invite-only
now. apologies!!
** grant: lol, fianances sure, but people's personal addresses? i said
sorry! ;P
** jorrit: finances ok read-only, but editing should be restricted in my
opinion - its bookkeeping
** grant: second the read-only part
** looks like marc already made it invite-only
** not marc, but someone else did
* PON outages (a) DMCA take down, followed by (b) tunneldigger broker
failure, exit node status (see issue
https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues/8 ), troubleshooting (10 min)
** proposal: investigate/share root cause of DMCA take down and come up
with ways to avoid in the future
*** jenny: finish setting up server @ hurricane electric and switch exit
node to that
** proposal: "who are admins of what" list
** proposal: train 3-4 people on how to operate , monitor and administer
the exit node using https://github.com/sudmesh/tunneldigger-lab or similar
doc
Communications (10 mins)
grant:, yeah, just notes for discussion
** alternatives to signal/IRC/mailing-list for troubleshooting and support
*** rough sketch of ideas (expand in a breakout group?)
*** signal etiquette - for privacy/encryption/timeout messages, day-of
comms (synchronous only)
*** IRC - create setup instructions or agree on alternative support channel
(semi-synchronous)
*** mailing list - larger updates, schedule meetings (assume async)
*** who moderates / monitors / replies to public email addresses
info(a)peoplesopen.net / nodemount(a)peoplesopen.net / info(a)sudomesh.org ?
(jorrit - unclear to me which email has been replied to and which one needs
attention, cc-to-self when replying would clarify this situation; many
possible unanswered info emails remain)
*** grant - i'll check migadu server to see if there are any settings like
"force cc-to-self"?
*** grant - couldn't find any options for info or nodemounts aliases, not
sure if jenny or any one else might have an idea how to deal with with this?
****jenny - info@peoplesopen is in the migadu acct -> domains ->
peoplesopen.net -> aliases -> info. currently sends to jorrit, jehan, will,
juul, mai, grant, me, and scott
***** nodemount goes to grant, jehan, mai, juul, scott, and me
***** info@sudomesh and all other emails @sudomesh are defined in the
etc/postfix/virtual file on the peoplesopen server. can move that over to
migadu as well
*** proposal - send out meeting notes to mesh list after meeting to inform
+ archive
**** just needs someone to do it again (sending to list). archives are
here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes
** see also Comms Trello:
https://trello.com/b/f3ugMPNU/sudo-mesh-communications ("emails" list is
automated, all emails i label "mesh inquiry" in my gmail are forwarded to
here. been playing with zapier)
** sierk - we're using IRC/Signal for conversations, and mailing
lists/github for bugs and issues. what we're currently doing doesn't scale
however, should we deal with it when it's an issue or figure something out
now?
** juul - mailing lists work. Signal is terrible and it's giving us more
problems then its solving.
** grant - when we get something on the mailing list we just need to make
sure to reply-all so it's more like a chat-like support channel
** sierk - there's still an issue of scaling. It sorta works now but it
won't work in the future. I'll send this issue to the mailing list — there
are solutions to this.
** jenny: i liked jehan's suggestion to use matrix: https://matrix.org/ -
persistant chat history, web-based and mobile clients
** mai - I'm also interested in trying matrix. It's important to have a
systematic way to deal with bugs and community issues and to have ways for
people involved to have casual conversations and share news — these
interactions build trust and community
** juul: rocket chat is also an option -- ooh, videoconferencing, screen &
filesharing??
* (maybe) byoi as more focused do-athon with a specific and well-defined
goal (judy talking to mai)
* zines (judy)
* discuss need for dedicated meeting re: SudoMesh strategic plan and budget
— will be more necessary *if* we get the Mozilla/NSF Grant (10 min)
** mai - we should have a meeting about funding and what our plans are for
the next several months, especially if we get the Mozilla/NSF grant
** leslie - Mozilla/NSF grant outline of "prototype" is something we've
already built. Providing more coverage and used connection is what we need
to build. Getting more nodes out there should be our #1 goal. +1
** mai - regardless of whether we get the Mozilla/NSF funding, we should
have a discussion about our budget and our strategic plan for the next few
months to few years. Discussing how we spend $ and how much we raise is one
point of entry to this discussion, but the larger conversation should be
what our goals/objectives are.
** jorrit: i want to second mai's comment that it should be disconnected
from nsf grant. i also want to applaud jenny's efforts with regards to 5
year plan and think we can lern a lot from her efforst toward getting 501c3
status.
*** jnny- aw tx. and good reminder i need to make those more sharable, wiki
prolly?
** sierk - i see this money and money in june to accelerate what we would
already be doing, under the imopression that the money now would speed us
up and get us ready for june, what's the plan for the next six months,
before allocate any money
** blake - this discussion is whether we should have a meeting about
budgetting and strategic plan and when
** grant: i think mai volunteered to draft a doodle. who should be invited?
** mai: i think anyone shold be invited but there should be an expectation
that you help.
* AJ+ (Al Jazeera) wants to do a feature on People's Open! (10 mins)
** Welcoming suggestions from the hivemind, this is the gist:
** They'd like to film a Sunday node mount, sometime in the next two weeks.
Jenny suggested the following possibilities: Richmond Tower to Diane's,
LOLspace/EastSide Arts Alliance to the Village, Laney College where Village
is building site #2 for unhoused students
** They also want to talk with someone directly impacted by the network.
Jenny suggested possibly one of our nodes in Richmond, hooking up Omni's
neighbor Araya (elderly disabled Eritrean man who asks me every time I see
him tho I haven't seen him in recent months), or yar's neighbors who rely
on yar's house's node for access
** "The story would be filmed for AJ+'s series with Dena Takruri. (
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZd3QRtSy5LOWaQBH1fLN2etOO9pCAxaJ )
The idea is to be able to get an inside look to a story, with Dena leading
the experience. As you can see from her past stories, she has lots of
experience interviewing people in complicated and often intense
environments. Throughout the day, we would film the events taking place,
aka you and the team setting up the node, as well as hear from you and
others what inspired you to create and/or take part of the project. Our
hope is to get to the sociopolitical importance of the story. We would also
like to interview some residents that are affected by/benefit from the
nodes/internet in order to get a full scope of the benefits and potential
of the project. "
** mai - We should maybe hold off on putting ourselves in the spotlight. It
seems like we don't have many strong examples of people who rely on the
mesh network. We don't really have a way to scale right now, let alone a
strategic plan to figure out how we want to build and grow more
intentionally. It's not that we're not a success, we're just still growing
and personally feels uncomfortable putting ourselves out there until we can
deal with attracting so much attention.
** jorrit - I second Mai--if I'm not comfortable selling peoples open to my
neighbor, I'm not going to be comfortable selling to AJ. It's not stable
yet. I wouldn't want to be the person in front of the camera.
** juul - i have no problem lying to the media, they are mostly care about
the technology and not about what we are actually doing, but thinks we can
share what we are doing without misrepresenting
** blake - they will spin the story however they want.
** jorrit - I have a problem with lying. I don't want to deploy the same
techniques, "fake it until you make it". That's not why I joined this group.
** mai - I agree. That's the aspect of silicon valley that I hate. Talking
up their potential before they've even talked to a potential customer base.
It's exactly the kind of lack of reflective growth that I feel like is
really necessary if we want to build this really intentionally. I think if
we just let them film us and run the story--I don't even know if I'm fine
with that. One scenario--they film us, it looks like a huge success, then
30 people come to the tuesday meeting, and we don't have a plan to deal
with them. Then people have a negative reaction to how unprepare we are.
Alternative scenario, we do it when we're ready to deal with all the
inbound attention. Would rather not create impression that we're way more
put together than we are.
** blake - Steer discussion to how to communicate with Al Jazeera.
** leslie - I think they're comfortable with where we're at
** jorrit - what's the story we're giving to AJ? If the story is that we're
building this community network from the grassroots that's still very much
in experimentation, that's fine and I would happily share that story. But
if the story is that we're trying to build an alternative to AT&T then I'm
not comfortable with that.
** sierk - if we do it, we would be talking about community mesh networks.
we're a work in progress. if we tell the story that way, I'm totally fine
with talking to them about community mesh networks. but I don't we're ready
to talk about Peoples' Open, canceling comcast, etc. If we're clear about
that, I'm all in favor of helping spread the word about community mesh
networks.
** blake - Jenny wanted suggestions about how to talk to AJ. This is all
good feedback. People should continue to talk to AJ and the people
coordinating with AJ with their concerns.
** jenny - i was honest about where we're at w/ julia, and i'm guessing
marc was too. i told her i'd send a summary of peoples' concerns / ideas
after this meeting, appreciate all these points <3
** juul - Marvin Minsky quote, "Get people excited, and they'll teach
themselves." Been dealing w/ similar media things on real vegan cheese .
People who are interested will come, most people won't. People who like us
will stay. Even if you undersell yourself to the media, they will make you
look incredible. The job of the media tis to generate excitement (which is
what we want).
** mai - thumbs up to jenny and marc. We should think about how to let
people can get involved in various ways if it does lead to a lot of
attention and a large influx of interested people in the bay area.
* equipment budget requests (3 mins)
** what do we need? add to notes & jenny will purchase.
** usb to ethernet adapters
** second pair of EZ ethernet crimpers
** cow & chicken reimbursement - jorrit - 2x old raspberry pi (model b), 1x
8GB SDcard, 2x n600 nodes, 2x usb power cables
*** jenny: jorrit, send me receipts (if you didn't yet) & i can cut a check
from our online banking backend.
* proposal: table & workshop at Allied Media Conference, June 14-17 (3 mins)
** jenny is definitely going, proposing a table for omni as well
** tables are $100: https://www.alliedmedia.org/amc/table
** call for sessions is now open. we're probably a good fit for the
"digital futures of consent" track:
https://www.alliedmedia.org/amc2018/digital-futures-of-consent-track - DUE
DATE: March 16
** mai - an awesome conference multicultural, multigenerational conference
that goes on in Detroit, has been going on for ten years, not sure if it is
connected to DDJC, talks a lot about making media more accesible and
empowering marginalized voices. I'm interested to go.
** blake - interested to go.
* node scouting
** jeff - talked to ben (elam), we've been talking about connecting to
internet archive, is it a omni-directional link, or do we need a
directional poin-to-point link,
** marc - not sure, have to go there and check
** jeff - we can't see it from where I am in Berkeley,
** jenny: their 2.4GHZ link is open, but the 5.3GHz has a password
** marc - we are allowed to mount our gear on their tower
** jeff - a radio station at Ashby and I-80, got bought by someone, maybe
we could mount some gear on it
*** marc - what radio station
**** jeff - the one in American Graffiti?
= breakout groups =
* BYOI debrief (20 min)
= action items =
* see also comms trello:
https://trello.com/b/f3ugMPNU/sudo-mesh-communications // logistics &
bureaucracy trello:
https://trello.com/b/LzVQlW3X/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms
/// github/code trello: https://trello.com/b/r9l5ouQ4/sudo-mesh-github-repos
// events trello: https://trello.com/b/Y3XfDK85/peoples-open-events
* create meeting agenda template (eg
https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Delegates_Meeting_Notes_Template ) and archive
nov-feb notes - jenny
* re-ping lolspace & respond to julia (AJ+ contact) - jenny
* send out doodle for budget/strategy meeting - mai
* long term - document what is running on the sudomesh server - sierk, grant
Hey there,
This is your (new) weekly reminder to add any topics you'd like to be
discussed to the SudoMesh meeting agenda before Tuesday:
https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/notes
>> Add your bit where it says "Example Discussion Item"
If you do add something, we expect you to come to the meeting to give some
context and lead that discussion.
Thanks!
Mai
Hey fellow mesh enthusiasts,
We will be continuing our Build Your Own Internet office hours* this Sunday
February 11th from 1pm to late afternoon in SudoRoom.
This week's ~theme~ is *Documentation/Research Jam*!
It'll be a time to review and update our own documentation. And we can
research other examples of community/mesh networks, see how they make their
projects happen and add what we find to the sudomesh wiki
<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh> (or edit Wikipedia articles!). This is all
about tuning up our own docs, researching, and working on our knowledge
commons with information on how we can build a decentralized, democratic
networks.
We'll also be there to answer questions and learn from each other about
cable crimping, node flashing and mounting, as well as other aspects of the
project. We especially encourage those who were at the last BYOI or the
office hours last week to come and teach others. They say the best way to
truly learn is by teaching others, right? :]
Hope to see ya there.
Mai
---
** What are BYOI office hours? It serves two purposes:*
*1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled
Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting
or are not "in the know."*
*2. A friendly, non-confrontational time for new people to get oriented to
the project or just ask general questions about networking, the internet,
and their service provider.*
*We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice,
conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and
purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues.*
Hey fellow mesh enthusiasts,
On Tuesday we agreed to have a dedicated strategy and budget meeting for
People's Open, where we'd set some long term goals and decide concrete
objectives for the project. We're also doing this to figure out what to do
in case some funding comes through, and decide how we'd apply those funds
towards achieving our objectives.
*This meeting is especially for people who plan to be involved in building
out the People's Open Network over the next few months to a year.* It may
take more than one meeting to do this, but at least we can get a start on
our plan with a 2.5 hour meeting.
Please fill out the doodle poll below by **end of day Monday Feb 12** so we
can set a time that works best for the most people. We'll discuss the
format of it at Tuesday's regular weekly SudoMesh meeting.
>>> https://doodle.com/poll/ni5vmu5nvsdxpqip <<<
Thanks!
best,
Mai
Btw, I really try not to spam this list, but I think this deserves an
exception:
Falcon Heavy Livestream tomorrow (approx. 1:30 PM Eastern)
http://www.spacex.com/webcast
