Re: [Mesh] coop ISP

If others want to spend some time tonight talking through what a cooperatively owned ISP could look like, I'd love to be a part of that discussion. Some folks from Mondragon's University just held an event on cooperatives on Tuesday in SF and I talked with Ricardo from SELC a little bit about IT cooperatives. If we try and get a picture of how a cooperative might operate within and in partnership with the mesh tonight, I'd be happy to stop by the SELC legal cafe next week and get answers on whatever questions we come up with. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <mesh-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> wrote: > Send mesh mailing list submissions to mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh or, via email, send a > message with subject or body 'help' to > mesh-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mesh-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific than "Re: Contents of mesh digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BSC $10,000 Development Grant (Mitar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >

> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:52:37 -0800 From: Mitar > <mitar(a)tnode.com> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Cc: > "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: Re: > [Mesh] BSC $10,000 Development Grant Message-ID: > <52FC0945.3080905(a)tnode.com> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=us-ascii > > Hi! > >> Jeremy and I are applying to this grant for our food worker >> coop ;) > > Amazing!!! :-) > > (I am not sure what food worker coop is, but still amazing. :-) > ) > >> I think the more relevant applications, the better. > > Yes!!! Please, spread the word, apply. Personally, I really think > that people should try to create more coops, it is a very good > way for a social change. > >> On the other hand, I think it could work if a group of >> Berkeleyans wanted to coordinate a group to start their own >> "mesh cooperative" since this seems to be a vibe of many of the >> folks we've talked to in Berkeley, students and other residents >> alike. Any such "mesh cooperative" could participate in The >> People's Open Network and work in close coordination > or >> simple solidarity with Sudo Mesh. > > Yes! > > And they do not have to be from Berkeley. Grant are not targeted > only to Berkeley area. > > Maybe also think about a coop which would build on top of mesh > network. In guifi.net (Spanish community wireless network with > 15k+ nodes) whole small companies already work inside the > network, providing different services and so on. There are people > who would like and are able to pay to become a member and they > want also technical support. A coop could be that. Or maybe some > service on top of it. Or it does not have to be mesh related, but > still something which would integrate mesh at some point later > on. Personally, I really like the idea of IT coops, so instead > of startups, you create a coop. You do the same thing, only all > workers own the company. > > One step further is also that you make all your customers own > the company as well. So not only workers, but customers also > become members and then you together determine prices. A friend > of mine had an idea for a farming cooperative, where they would > connect multiple small farms together to be able to fulfill big > orders, but also customers would be members of this cooperative. > > Do not forget that there can be many different types of > cooperatives, like housing, worker, and consumer coops. > > For an inspiration, the biggest cooperative, with 14 billion EUR > in revenue and 80k employees. Check what all they do: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation > > > Mitar > >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mitar <mitar(a)tnode.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I must say that filing for a coop status only to get this >>> grant is a bit... The idea of this grant is to help people >>> who really believe in cooperatives as means to a social >>> change and need help with this. If you really want and >>> believe in cooperatives and you want to be a cooperative, >>> then this is a great opportunity. >>> >>> >>> Mitar >>> >>>> Could we still file for coop status under the umbrella of >>>> SudoRoom? On Feb 11, 2014 11:35 PM, "Mitar" >>>> <mitar(a)tnode.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> Just a comment. This money is awarded if you want to >>>>> create a coop as > an >>>>> entity/business. Not only if project is cooperative in >>>>> spirit. >>>>> >>>>> But I do encourage you to apply if you have any coop >>>>> idea. Friends of mine (they were at Mass effect) (Derek >>>>> and Mikey) are for example creating an IT coop (where >>>>> mesh is a part of their ideas). (If anybody has any >>>>> contacts with other IT coops in the area, if they are >>>>> any, please tell me to forward them.) >>>>> >>>>> So yes, this is a great opportunity. It is yearly. Spread >>>>> the word >>> around. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mitar >>>>> >>>>>> If anyone is interested in writing an application, the >>>>>> Berkeley > Student >>>>>> Cooperative has announced a $10,000 cooperative >>>>>> development grant for cooperative projects that serve >>>>>> students or underserved members of low-income >>>>>> communities within the SF Bay Area >>>>>> >>>>>> https://sites.google.com/a/bsc.coop/eacom/co-op-development-fund >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>

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