You can see last week's minutes below or online here:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/04_December_2018
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https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/04_December_2018)
'''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 4 December 2018
7:30pm-9pm'''
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https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy
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https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy)
=== Agenda ===
* Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)
* Check in on previous action items (5 mins)
* Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins)
* Next Sunday (5 mins)
* Proposal: Re-naming "Consensus List Members" to "Stewards" (15 mins)
* Proposal: Fund two people to go to Nonprofit Democracy Network Gathering
* Discussion: Oakland Tenants' Comms Choice Ordinance Language
* Discussion: Review Project Proposal (15 mins)
* Action Items (5 mins)
* Breakout Groups
=== Introductions ===
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements
* Icebreaker question: What's the last cool thing you saw on the Internet?
* jenny - she/her - Got an email back from Mobile Citizen!
* amanda - she/her - pass
* sean - he/they - spaceplan - about potatos and spacetime, based on steven hawking
* juul - he/him - bought at 80 freezer at auction
**
https://gist.github.com/Juul/e42c5b6ec71ce11923526b36d3f1cb2c
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https://gist.github.com/Juul/e42c5b6ec71ce11923526b36d3f1cb2c)
* ben - he/they - overthewire's advent CTF is up - lets make a team! (one security
challenge a day til the 25th)
https://advent2018.overthewire.org/
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https://advent2018.overthewire.org/)
* andra - he/him - netflix last kingdom
* stephan - he/him -
* seth - he/they - gmail just kicked me off of their platform
* eve - she - episode of dr who (the penultimate one)
* null - him/he - I've been watching Cheers and having a lot of fun doing so.
* Tyler - he/him/they - Cool with re amateur radio emergency data network
* lesley - *remote* she/they/etc.
** welcome, lesley!
* james - he/him - little art video / weird - baliwood song - Terrorist of Love
* mai - she/they - Story of this farmer in rural England who was tired of the fact that
she didn't have internet. Got her tractor, dug a multi-km trench, laid fiber, and
started a local ISP. --
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37974267
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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37974267)
=== Meeting Roles ===
* Facilitator/s: Ben
* Stacktaker: Jenny
* Notetaker/s: Null, you, everyone
** URL of this pad:
https://peoplesopen.net/notes (
https://peoplesopen.net/notes)
== Check in on previous action items ==
Check previous meeting minutes at
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes
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https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes) and past action items below:
* add everyone who signed up at the BYOI to the PON newsletter list, and let them know
about the mesh mailing list (benny)
** done!
* encourage people to submit a proposal for $ and add to next's week agenda (mai)
** mai - encouraged in rocket.chat
** jenny - I was encouraged!
* post re: richmond tower link on SF Chalkboard (mai)
** mai - didn't post yet
* double check w/ juul then send e-mail to jonah to schedule server install (benny)
** did not do - are you coming tonite?
* talk to the people that calyx gets internet from
jnny - mobile citenze - (originally 400-500 a year) non profit for 120-140 a year, then
we could get like four hotspots, asked if we have a 5013c exmemption, which we don't
really need. Could we become a reseller, there is a process that we are looking into.
juul - tried hotspot downtown and was not able to get very good service, tried at
omni/sudoroom and getting good service.
* implement calyx hotspot @ the housing & dignity village! - jenny / juul? mux? &
village building crew
** currently waiting on word back from judge re: permanent injunction
** jnny - Village lost their push for their permanent injunction; eviction slated for
tomorrow. Help wanted for copwatch, resistance, etc
* jnny: HDVillage being evicted tomorrow -
== Updates & Reportbacks ==
=== Bugs/Technical ===
Priority bugs we need help with are located at:
http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted
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http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted) - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity,
see the Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-…
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https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-…)
repos
* juul - unsolved mystery with libre router won't communicate on the mesh when
flashed.
=== Node Mounts & Outreach ===
Node Mounts Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-…
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https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-…)
*seth- node mount at kristoffs thurs morn if anybody interested. Maybe use a
nanostation?m5
** ben - when mounting, its helpful to have a really long patch cable to move antenna
around to find the line of site to connect with another site. (If you're worried about
where to put a J-pole)
* do we have a node at or near PLACE?
=== Communications & Events ===
Comms Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-…
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https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-…)
// Events Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl…
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https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl…)
* weird spammy ransomware email?
* ben - spam email - info mailing list with bitcoin address (no link inside)
** juul - speaking of spooky email, Outlook proxies IMAP connections (e.g. to your IMAP
server) through their cloud, not directly through your client.
* email from Jay of Anaheim California
** noone knows about this
* response to Matt at Paxio re: mount?
** juul -
=== Internal Logistics / Finance ===
Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter…
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https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter…)
* Pay jake's invoice for disaster.radio
** that would require an invoice...? submitted to
https://peoplesopen.net/buystuff
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https://peoplesopen.net/buystuff) or emailed to finance(a)sudomesh.org
(mailto:finance@sudomesh.org)
== Next Sunday ==
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-3pm in Sudo Room, and often arrange a rooftop
node mount.
* To sign up to bottomline, fill in your name here:
https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours (
https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours)
** mai + ben + null
* Ongoing node mounting spreadsheet is located at:
https://peoplesopen.net/sundays
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https://peoplesopen.net/sundays)
* Notes from this past Sunday's session:
** null - lots of people were here! tyler, seth, eve, amanda, marc, jenny, dig, robb
(maybe more?)
** several nodes dispensed
** now ~400 assets in the inventory, only 120 unique item types
** null - should we get rid of the stuff in the corner next to the cage? It would be nice
to have that space for staging.
** jenny - I've taken apart that printer that's there so many times. Maybe
it's time to get rid of it
== Proposal: Re-naming "Consensus List Members" to "Stewards" ==
Please add any proposal needing consent from or action by the group below:
* What if we changed the name to those who have the ability to approve project proposals
as Stewards or Network Stewards?
* '''Consenso?'''
** Quorum, consensed (7/7 STEWARDS :). *Very* easily reversed.
== Proposal: Fund two people to go to Nonprofit Democracy Network Gathering ==
* Can we spend between $400 ~ $1500 to send two people to this?
https://www.theselc.org/npdn_2019 (
https://www.theselc.org/npdn_2019)
** From the description: "We launched the network at our inaugural gathering in fall
of 2017 (read more about it here). At our second gathering, March 27-29, 2019, we’ll dive
into the nuts and bolts of co-creating forms of collective self-governance, taking on
topics like compensation, inclusive decision-making, the impact of identity and culture on
participation, coordination and accountability, and collective budgeting of time and
money."
** Cost depends upon our budget so it will probably be closer to $400.
** Who's interested? Mai, Benny, ...?
* '"Consenso?"'
* mai - I will also put this on loomio, but wanted to get a temperature check
* null - might be able to get sponsored via APC, who does grant funding and travel budgets
* move to next week post-Loomio discussion
== Discussion: Oakland Tenants' Comms Choice Ordinance Language ==
* Effort with Media Alliance, EFF, MonkeyBrains and others to improve Health & Safety
Code in Oakland to prevent landlords from interfering with tenants' choice of telecom
provider, as well as building in remedies for code violations.
** eenblam: SF had an ordinance approved ~2yrs ago to prevent landlords & ISPs from
creating anti-competitive agreements. can't deny access to certain kinds of orgs -
some complexities to SF ordinance we'd like to improve upon for Oakland. John(?) came
to some meetings a few months ago to discuss this.
* In particular, they want our help to ensure that the definitions of communications and
communications provider would include Sudo Mesh and other future and similar nonprofit
community internet projects.
** mai: tracy from Media Alliance taking the lead on this. In SF it's in the police
code (?) - we intend to put it in Health &Safety instead. want to ensure projects like
Sudo Mesh are included in the language of the ordinance.
* Would this suffice?
** “Communication services” means any of the following a) video service as that term is
defined in the California Public Utilities Code 5830(s) b) telecommunications services
certified by the California Public Utilities Commission under California Public Utilities
Code 1001 c) services provided by a telephone corporation as that term is defined in
California Public Utilities Code 234 d) peer to peer mesh infrastructure for local area
networks. Nothing in this definition is intended to limit the types of services that a
communications services provider accessing an apartment building may provide to occupants.
*** juul: "mesh" is too specific
**** but easy enough to install meshing on one node and it would fit
**** distributed / peer-to-peer(?) community-owned(?) networking(?) infrastructure for
local area networks
***** "community-owned" might be complicated to describe in a legal document,
since a good portion of the work would likely be done by nonprofits and cooperatives
(public benefit corporations)
***** "access to a community network"?
*** eenblam: this is in part about building access, phrasing should optimize for this.
** “Communication services provider” means any of the following a) a person that has
obtained a franchise to provide video service from the California Public Utilities
Commission under California Public Utilities Code 5840 b) a person who has obtained a
Certificate of Public Interest and Necessity (CPCN) from the California Public Utilities
Commission under California Public Utilities Code 1001 to provide telecommunications
services c) A telephone corporation as defined in Public Utilities Code 234 d) A
California not for profit corporation offering a peer to peer local area communications
network within the City of Oakland
*** from Media Alliance: "Mai, my two cents would be that since we're talking a
semi-permanent ordinance that we want to be as broad as we can be while addressing two
primary concerns:
1) Wording that unambiguously includes Sudo Mesh or any other actors doing similar work at
some point in the future.
2) Wording that excludes scam artists, irresponsible parties or those not capable of
actually delivering service
I emphasized nonprofit status since it takes some work to achieve it and requires a public
interest nexus, and excludes profit making entities who haven't been through the CPUC
process. But I'm open to any other ideas as long as they more or less meet the two
above reasons goals for the language."
** jnny + 1, but maybe also include worker-owned cooperatives?
** eenblam: think provider definition is solid,
== Discussion: Review Project Proposal Process ==
*
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/16_October_2018#Discussion:_Project_Proposal…
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https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/16_October_2018#Discussion:_Project_Proposal…)
* Should we make an email list for people who are on the consensus list? How do people
initially propose the project if doing it online?
** scheduled for this week, but punted to next week
** note - no one has used the process to date
** jnny: brainstorming fundraising ideas today.
https://signal.org/blog/bithub/
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https://signal.org/blog/bithub/) for bug squishers, sthg like tidelift for maintainers
https://tidelift.com/about/lifter (
https://tidelift.com/about/lifter) - %age of grant
monies received by grantwriters/bottomliners, worker coop for node installers, &age
donations received for workshops / office hrs bottomliners. also added a bunch of leads to
the Fundraising Trello Board:
== Action Items ==
* ewaste pickup (breakout session after meeting)
** CiviCorps form:
http://www.civicorpsrecycling.org/e-waste-pick-request-form/
(
http://www.civicorpsrecycling.org/e-waste-pick-request-form/) (company is Omni Commons,
anyone can submit)
* put proposal to fund participation in Nonprofit Democracy Network Gathering (mai)
* review project proposal process (next week) - all
** proposal process discussion:
https://www.loomio.org/p/YAXhzclP/project-proposal-process-v2
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https://www.loomio.org/p/YAXhzclP/project-proposal-process-v2)
* schedule holiday party (maybe the 15th? - Loomio? could someone take this on?
** jnny: ballroom is utterly free w/ no pending requests for the 14th, free after 2pm the
15th, free until 430pm Sunday the 16th (4:30pm setup for Liberated Lens' "Best of
the [Film] Fest" event - +100 solidarity