Let's replace the meeting next week with a hack night and start early! I
know some of us will be hacking on the firmware but there are many other
(and non-tech) things to hack in.
Next Thursday (the 18th), starting at 5 pm, in sudo room.
If you can't be there at 5 pm, come by later. We'll be there until late
late.
If you don't know what to work on, we'll send out another email soon with
things that you can come and hack/work on! Here's a short list:
Name ideas.
Sticker T-shirt design.
…
[View More] Outreach and community engagement strategies.
Web design for splash and admin pages.
Fliers and texts explaining what the project is about.
Fundraising!
Firmware stuff.
Ways to mount routers on windows.
--
Marc
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*July 11th Meeting Minutes [reposted
here<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/11_July_2013>
]
*
= Agenda =
*Update on crowdfunding campaign [
https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network]
*Report-back on existing mesh: Jenny on OTI's Commotion project
*Firmware overview
*Name brainstorm! [https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Naming]
**Set tentative deadline? Three weeks?
=Attendees=
*Marc, Mikey, Nader, Jenny, Miguel, Jacob, Mitar, MaxB
=Announcements=
*We now have $2,203.00 …
[View More]from the WePay, and still around 0.7 Bitcoins (about
$70 depending on the date)
=Report-Back=
*OTI's Commotion Project is currently being tested in Red Hook, Brooklyn
and Detroit (3 different community meshes) - https://commotionwireless.net/
*[1] http://ulysses.detroitfuturelab.org/, [2]
http://www.our-morningside.com/, [3] http://ms-mesh.org/
=What we're doing=
*Mesh the east bay! (at least to start with....)
*Batman-adv firmware at least for first deployment
*Planning on getting bandwith donations in order to serve the internet to
hosts.
*Free to the "consumer"
*Business ideas - local businesses could put small ads on splash page
*VPN tunnels mean IPs could be hidden
*TOR exit node? Limits liability
=Today I learned=
*https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned
*It would be nice to hold one on mesh networking
*Introducing mesh to the public
=Firmware Stuff=
*New Page: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware
*Firmware brainstorm: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware
**Mesh, Public, Private
**Bandwidth shaping
**Remote administration (if allowed)
**Web admin interface
***Change private SSID
***Status of node
***Sharing allocation
**Report/status
**Local services
=How to Pitch to Community=
*Opening up / sharing your wifi for neighbors to use
*Why paying twice, at home and when on move?
=Naming=
*For 10$ you could vote on a name!
*should it be independent of organization, geography, and hacker space?
*SSIDEAL; Route-Around
*Need to determine our organizational structure -
non-organizationally-linked neutral name
=Berkeley Co-op Folks=
*Would like first to mesh the houses
*Would also dig potentially creating the link between houses and the
Internet Archive link in Richmond
=Technological Stuffs=
*VPN in kernel space: https://github.com/wlanslovenija/tunneldigger
=Misc Notes=
*Newer Ubiquiti firmware
*CJDNS - https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
*VPN tunnels for directing mesh traffic
*Look up legal liability w/ regards to traffic crossing "our" VPN
*One VPN connection is enough for a largeish network
*"Please choose the legal regime for your traffic"
*cooperation between networks (sharing VPNs, group buys, ...)
*Become a reseller, or make our own hardware
=OTI network (Commotion)=
* Redhood Brooklyn + Detroit
* useful in New York - Sandy
* Tidepools http://tidepools.co/
* now concentrating in Detroit
* small mesh networks, 8-9 nodes
* Open??? networks (GSM)
* inflatable towers for GSM - crazy stuff http://openbts.org/
=Action Items=
*TOR
=Post-Meeting Discussion Groups=
*wlan-slovenia & VPN etc;
---------
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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Hi all!
It would be great to have an idea of who's coming tonight, so we can craft
the agenda accordingly. Here's a link to our Riseup
etherpad<https://pad.riseup.net/p/510penmeeting>,
so please add to it things you would like to discuss tonight!
I will giving a report-back about OTI's Commotion Wireless initiative and
updating us all on the current crowdfunding campaign. Take a minute to
re-share with your friends, families, social networks etc:
https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-…
[View More]community-mesh-network
Looking forward to seeing y'all again tonight,
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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Hiya,
I'm heading out to NY for a couple of weeks; are there any questions
on technical topics about how the hardware / wifi stuff works under
the hood?
I'm happy to do up a mini-talk for this stuff if you'd like.
Thanks!
-adrian
Hi!
One of topics we discussed at Thursday's meeting was also the
establishment of non-profit organization. In Slovenia we are also
thinking about that but we discussed also the issues which arise on
meetings because not all members attend the meetings and then quorum is
hard to achieve. This is especially problematic for communities build
around virtual communities. But still, we want as horizontally organized
organization as possible. So I prepared what voting schema which builds
around the …
[View More]idea of proxy voting, where you can delegate to one or more
people your vote in the case that you don't vote. The idea is that
organization specifies that voting is done in such a way.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zblrsqaazkbyytw/Voting%202.pdf
My next step is to develop a simple app to be used inside the
organization. If you are interested, we might do it together.
(There are some similar ideas tested around the world, for example in
Pirate parties in Europe. But I haven't find their systems to have all
the properties I want.)
Mitar
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Hi!
So I posted that ticket on our wlan slovenija Trac some time ago, but I
am also writing now here because maybe there are some people who would
be also interested in more lawish approach to open networks.
So the idea I have is that what we are doing now with community wireless
networks, how we grow them and connect them is all very similar to how
Internet was build in the beginning. Mostly it all works because of the
trust and because we share similar values.
But as we will grow, we will …
[View More]face issues. For example, can our networks
be used for commercial uses. Can we filter some traffic we object to?
Will you transit traffic over your network from some other network with
which rules you do not agree on? In general, we will face net neutrality
issues. And instead of waiting that we get to the stage when things will
be hard to change, I was thinking that we should learn from Internet and
make one change: organic growing and interconnecting of networks is
great, but let us all have a common base of things we agree on, and let
us have a legal backing of that. Internet has no law regulating it, but
we should use law to regulate our networks so that we assure that they
are open and neutral forever. It is like using copyright to defend the
commons. :-)
(Of course we should also try to make it technologically ensured to be
so, but why not have one line of defense more? And sometimes it is good
to write things down, just so that everybody involved knows what to expect.)
We could have something similar to GPL which in short would require from
you net neutrality, if you are connecting to the network, and that
others who will connect to you, will adhere to the same agreement
(peerleft? :-) ).
I am not a lawyer, so I am not sure if "licensing" can be used in this
way. What is a difference between license and agreement? Can you give a
license to somebody that he or she is allowed to connect to your network
and spread it further under this and this conditions. And if they break
those conditions, they are lost their right to connect and are thus illegal.
Concrete proposal is here:
http://grow.wlan-si.net/ticket/1258
When drafting this idea I read many other such agreements/licenses
listed here:
http://interop.wlan-si.net/wiki/Legal/Licenses
Is there any lawyer around who would be interested in drafting such a
peerleft (beerleft?) license? Do you know about some other similar
licenses I missed?
So, this is something which is probably for you very down along the
road, initially this is probably overkill, but maybe some are interested
also in this aspects.
(For all who are maybe not familiar with peering agreements. So the idea
is that you make some type of agreement between nodes connecting, or
even networks as whole connect, about how you will transit their traffic
over your node or network. Inside one community wireless networks this
is often not a problem, but maybe you will get a person who will want to
filter all porn going over his or her node because it will be morally
objecting. How to deal with this? One way is to ignore it. Another is to
have some organization with ruling power over all nodes. The other is to
try to technically assure that this is impossible to do (which might not
be viable or even moral). And there is the thing which I am proposing
which is that all nodes are seen as individual entities which adhere to
the same license. Whoever is deploying this nodes. You don't care. If
they adhere to the license. And if they don't, you have a right to cut
them off.)
Mitar
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Hey I have a bit of a technical question (let me betray my ignorance a
bit....)
I've set up one of the ubiquiti picostation nodes with the batman-adv
configuration. It seems to be working as expected. It's broadcasting 2
ssids, one 'sudomesh' as an AP, and the other 'sudomesh-backchannel' as
ad-hoc. I can connect to 'sudomesh' from a laptop and then connect to
the internet.
The question I have is: Is there a way for me to ssh into the router in
order to change configurations, etc? I …
[View More]pretty much followed the guide in
the wiki by the letter, but I don't know where I would find the router
itself in order to ssh in. I tried root@ the ipaddr set in
/etc/config/network as option ipaddr. In the wiki that is 10.42.10.11,
but no luck.
Can anyone give me a clue?
Thanks,
Max
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Minutes as always reposted to the wiki:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/04_July_2013*
*
Action Items in bold below. Please take on action items and reply to this
thread accordingly! :)*
*
*
July 4th Meeting Minutes*
Welcome to the Oakland Mesh Meeting: Freedom Edition.
... liberating ourselves from the telecoms since January 2013!
*= New Action Items =*
** Reach out to the Berkeley folks to aim to reach the Internet Archive
Richmond node (jenny)*
** Blog post on our setup of the first two …
[View More]nodes and describing the
hardware we received (jenny)*
** Let's make a flier! Who can help? (jenny will start a thread on the list)
*
** Next reportback on an active mesh - Jenny on OTI/Commotion*
** Research resilient ethernet cable (Adrian?)
** Tune the OpenWRT settings on the new nodes for RTS / CTS and ACK timing
*
** Name brainstorm! Add to the "Naming" page here:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Naming*
** Website (contingent on name)*
** Splash page design*
= Attendees =
* Max B, Juul, Jenny, Jordan, Mitar, Adrian
= Announcements =
* Crowdfunding campaign is doing great with 26 days remaining: $2,053.00
(WePay), $56.92 (BitCoin)
* Juul has started putting together bylaws for 501c3 status! -
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Bylaws
* International Community Wireless Summit in Berlin Oct. 2-4:
http://2013.wirelesssummit.org/
- ** Jenny submitted a workshop proposal and applied for travel funding
= Report-backs =
* Mitar from wlan-slovenia:
** Must be strategic and have many nodes
** Abundance of fiber / connectivity
** Major difficulty was getting beyond the techies and reaching the
masses
** Primary selling point was to open wireless networks and choosing how
much of one's bandwidth they can share, enabling connectivity across the
whole city.
** Protected by connecting through a *VPN tunnel* to central servers.
** Get folks to deploy their own nodes - so they don't think of the
mesh as a service provided, but rather a DIY endeavor
** Lead by example, the village / neighborhood will follow
** Point of centralization is the two guys with root access to the
server who administer the nodes, firmware upgrades, etc (plz correct if
incorrect)
** Focus on scalability
** Made a simple GUI for indicating router and getting an image
instantly created for it
= Notes =
* Brainstorm on name for the mesh!
** COM - Cutting Out the Middleman
** OWN - Oakland Wireless Network
** Mitar recommends hacing the name by unaffiliated with the hackerspace
and non-geographically-specific
* Tax Status:
** 501(c)4 - non-tax-deductible
** 501(c)3 - can't do party politics (but can be political? - EFF is a
501(c)3!)
* Social pressure to allocate bandwidth to the mesh, sharing connectivity
* Adrian suggests, owning the first 100 nodes, with gradual replacement as
the network grows to a full-on decentralized model
* Our model as a 501c3 is to serve as a facilitator for the mesh.
= Old Action Items =
* Add your potential node to the map! - http://meshmap.sudoroom.org (we now
have 23 potential nodes. keep em comin!)
* Get batman-adv running at Hearth node, mesh with LiveLabs node
* Find some tall rooftops for Adrian to test TDMA point-to-multipoint links
* Research 501(c)x statuses:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Tax_Structure_Research - Marc did.
---------
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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Hi!
I'm Adrian. I'm a wifi hacker. I worked at Qualcomm Atheros for 18
months on various open and closed source wifi things. I'm also the
FreeBSD wireless developer.
My main focus is FreeBSD but I know a bunch of stuff about openwrt and
the Linux wireless stack and Atheros drivers.
Right now I'm working on FreeBSD support for the latest Atheros chips
and SoCs (the AR933x and AR934x stuff), as well as finishing off the
11n support for TDMA and 802.11s mesh.
I came along to the mesh meetup …
[View More]because being a developer of this
stuff in a vacuum is a bit silly. I've been looking for local groups
who are interested in wifi and want to do strange things with it. This
group seems to be that way inclined. :-) I'm also looking for
victims^Whelpers to test out the long-distance side of this TDMA
support in FreeBSD. It's supposed to work up to dozens of miles, but I
just don't have access to places to mount equipment to test. I'm
hoping that I can find some people here who are willing to help me
with this. I can provide the wireless hardware; all I need here is an
internet hookup and places to mount stuff.
I'm happy to help out any way I can.
If you're all interested, I can do some talks on how this stuff works
and how long distance links work/don't work.
Thanks!
-adrian
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Hello meshers!
My name is Charles Wyble, and I've been involved with mesh networks for about 10 years.
A couple years ago, I cofounded a non profit called the Free Network Foundation. We've been working on making the Ubuntu lts of mesh. We call it FreedomStack.
You can learn more at http://www.thefnf.org . We are trying to participate in every single us based mesh community, and provide assistance, connections etc. We also are securing ipv6 space and building relationships with carriers , so …
[View More]that mesh networks can provide internet transit if they so desire.
Very excited to be on this list. I'm based in Austin TX, our hq is in Kansas City. We helped a local non profit (connecting for good) overbuild the evil Google Fiber prisim net, with a free wifi network. It's rapidly growing to cover all of KC.
FNF doesn't operate networks, we provide operator education and development resources.
Oh yeah, we are working on the GPL for networks , called the Network Commons License. RMS is on our board of advisors.
We also are working on high altitude wifi baloons, first test launch will be August 10th out of Houston.
--
Charles Wyble
charles(a)knownelement.com / 818 280 7059
CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org)
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As my task from this past week for the Mesh group has been to do some more research on tax structure advantages and disadvantages - I wanted to share my excitement about 501(c)(7) with everyone. Social Clubs!
Check it out -- http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Social-Clubs.
Examples of 501(c)(7) ----
College social/academic fraternities and sororities
Country clubs
Amateur hunting, fishing, tennis, swimming and other sport clubs
Dinner clubs that provide a meeting …
[View More]place library, and dining room for members
Variety clubs
Hobby clubs
Homeowners or community associations whose primary function is to own and maintain recreational areas and facilities
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We have the first two nodes mounted, running and connected!
On the mesh map they are "Hearth" and "Adeline Livelabs":
http://meshmap.sudoroom.org/
As you can see, the houses are almost exactly one block from each other on
opposite sides of the street. Each house has a Ubiquiti Bullet 2 HP with a
large omnidirectional antenna mounted on the roof. Unfortunately the only
easy mounting point on the livelabs roof was not near the front of the
house, resulting in the signal being blocked by two …
[View More]large trees on a
neighboring property. We'll move the antenna another day, but for now at
least there is a link.
The nodes are running the batman-adv mesh routing protocols, they can see
each other and we're getting a bit under 1 mbit/sec each way. This is not
great and will be improved once we get line of sight between the antennas.
Ideally we wouldn't use omnidirectional antennas for roof to roof
connections, nor would we use 2.4 ghz routers, but since these two houses
are so close we figured we'd be able to connect them like this and get some
street coverage as well. Using a smartphone we can connect to and use the
mesh from about 1.5 blocks away from each node on adeline street giving us
a four-block coverage area in the north-south direction at least.
The connection is also fine indoors on the first floors of both houses,
even
directly underneath the antenna! More testing is needed to see how well it
covers neighbors houses.
--
Marc
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Reposted on the wiki at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/27_June_2013
Please add your own notes to this semi-scattered documentation! :)
Remember we are also hanging regularly on #510pen on Freenode IRC!
Attendees
- Chris J, Jenny, Max, Juul, Luis, Adrian, Christie, Thomas
New Action Items
- Add your potential node to the map! - http://meshmap.sudoroom.org
- Get batman-adv running at Hearth node, mesh with LiveLabs node
- Next reportback on an active mesh - Jenny
- Find …
[View More]some tall rooftops for Adrian to test TDMA point-to-multipoint
links
- Research resilient ethernet cable
- Tune the OpenWRT settings on the new nodes for RTS / CTS and ACK
timing
- Brainstorm on name for the mesh!
Old Action Items
- Decide on name (some suggested options further down in the notes)
- Research 501(c)x statuses:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Tax_Structure_Research
- Put together a brochure / pamphlet
- Website (contingent on name)
- Splash page design
- Glossary of terms (eg Fresnel zone, Hidden Node problem, etc) on the
wiki - MaxB began: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Terms
Announcements
- Marc & Jenny set up the first two nodes at their home rooftops
Report-backs
- Marc reporting on Seattle Meshnet:
- They are using cjdns and part of Project Meshnet
- Hyperboria: mesh on top of the internet. like Tor.
- Currently running an excellent
- Bay Area Wireless Users Group (died awhile ago)
Misc Notes
- For every 10-20 street level nodes (2.4GHz) there will be one rooftop
(5GHz) node
- Ubiquiti Tough Cable - some batches of them weren't UV-resistant
- Solve the hidden node problem with Non-Violent Communication for
devices (make requests, send acknowledgments)
- Alternatively, this has been solved with TDMA - but that's
currently not available on Linux
- Reflowing electronics - heat up a circuit board at the right
temperature in a toaster oven to melt the solder and enable the joints to
re-form
- Adrian can port OpenWRT onto anything with an Atheros chip!
- Using epoxy or ... - changes the wireless behavior - to manage outdoor
wear & tear
- Conformal coating
- Two options: 1) Keep existing access point / connection or 2) create
an entirely new access point
- Not best idea for repeater node to be primary access point
Crowdfunding Campaign
- WePay currently stands at $1933.00
- 0.7319 Bitcoins!
- Combined, that's $2,004.01!
Potential Local Services
- Local copy of Wikipedia
- Access to Archive.org
- Tidepools interactive map
Web Resources
- WISP Forums: http://www.wispforum.net/
- Tin Can Texting -
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hubski/tin-can-text-messages-without-th…
----------
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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I think Tyger, but whether because of my name or the Blake poem I'm not
sure!
I must confess that, although cats have more flash, there is something
eminently pragmatic about prehensile.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Excellent etymological deduction, my good man Tony. Personally I think I
> would be handier, play better piano and be a better lover if I had a
> prehensile monkey tail grafted to the base of my spine.
>
> …
[View More]If you had a choice of tails what would you choose?
>
>
> Raymond Lai
> Ice Cream Man
> Atomic Ice Cream
> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "xenomorphic tail grafting," eh?
>
> Let me guess: "Xeno" is "foreign" or "other" and "morphic" means it
> pertains to "forms" (in approximately the Platonic sense), so is
> "xenomorphic tail grafting" what you get when, say, you graft a dog's tail
> onto a monkey?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Very cool, Eddan! Thanks for sharing.
>>
>> Now my club for xenomorphic tail grafting aficionados can become a tax
>> free reality!
>>
>> Raymond Lai
>> Ice Cream Man
>> Atomic Ice Cream
>> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
>>
>> As my task from this past week for the Mesh group has been to do some
>> more research on tax structure advantages and disadvantages - I wanted to
>> share my excitement about 501(c)(7) with everyone. Social Clubs!
>> Check it out --
>> http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Social-Clubs
>> .
>>
>> Examples of 501(c)(7) ----
>>
>> - College social/academic fraternities and sororities
>> - Country clubs
>> - Amateur hunting, fishing, tennis, swimming and other sport clubs
>> - Dinner clubs that provide a meeting place library, and dining room
>> for members
>> - Variety clubs
>> - Hobby clubs
>> - Homeowners or community associations whose primary function is to
>> own and maintain recreational areas and facilities
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Tony Barreca
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca
> Skype: tonybarreca
> Twitter: tbarreca
> Mobile: (510) 710-5864
>
>
--
Tony Barreca
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca
Skype: tonybarreca
Twitter: tbarreca
Mobile: (510) 710-5864
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"xenomorphic tail grafting," eh?
Let me guess: "Xeno" is "foreign" or "other" and "morphic" means it
pertains to "forms" (in approximately the Platonic sense), so is
"xenomorphic tail grafting" what you get when, say, you graft a dog's tail
onto a monkey?
Thanks,
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ray Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Very cool, Eddan! Thanks for sharing.
>
> Now my club for xenomorphic tail grafting aficionados can become a tax
> free reality!
&…
[View More]gt;
> Raymond Lai
> Ice Cream Man
> Atomic Ice Cream
> Facebook.com/MotoAtomico
>
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
>
> As my task from this past week for the Mesh group has been to do some more
> research on tax structure advantages and disadvantages - I wanted to share
> my excitement about 501(c)(7) with everyone. Social Clubs!
> Check it out --
> http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Social-Clubs.
>
> Examples of 501(c)(7) ----
>
> - College social/academic fraternities and sororities
> - Country clubs
> - Amateur hunting, fishing, tennis, swimming and other sport clubs
> - Dinner clubs that provide a meeting place library, and dining room
> for members
> - Variety clubs
> - Hobby clubs
> - Homeowners or community associations whose primary function is to
> own and maintain recreational areas and facilities
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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another legal aspect of the sudo-mesh project is patent busting prior art research. ...
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/mesh-networking-good-overbroad-patent…
> JUNE 21, 2013 | BY JULIE SAMUELS
> Mesh Networking, Good. Overbroad Patents, Bad. Help Us Protect Mesh Networking.
> Earlier this year, we announced that along with the Cyberlaw Clinic at Harvard’s Berkman Center for Internet and Society, we were challenging six patent applications that, if granted, could threaten the …
[View More]development of 3D printing technology. We asked you—the community—for help, and your input was invaluable. We're still waiting to hear from the Patent Office on those applications, but our work is not done. We need your help again, this time to challenge dangerous patent applications that threaten mesh networking technology.
>
> Mesh networking allows users to form their own networks without a centralized infrastructure, making them inherently resistant to censorship, surveillance, and disruption. Given recent revelations showing widespread surveillance of the phone calls and online activities of innocent Americans and others around the globe, the development of mesh networks more important than ever. Governments and commercial actors have taken advantage of intermediaries as “weak links” in order to censor, surveil, and disrupt communications and social movements. Already in the United States, cell towers have been deactivated in response to planned protest, while activists in countries such as Egypt, Libya, and Syria have suffered massive blackouts that shut down all access from within the country to the wider Internet. Mesh networking technology can help activists fight back.
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> Wireless Mesh Networks
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> For more than a decade the open-source community has been developing networks that use multi-hop connectivity to bypass the current ISP-dominated model of Internet access. These Wireless Mesh Networks (WMNs) have tremendous potential for enabling the free flow of information without exposure to censorship and monitoring. Because they lack a central access point, mesh networks are also harder to take down, as the removal of one node won’t terminate the entire network. And WMNs, by not relying on infrastructure provided by ISPs, can provide connectivity in areas where that infrastructure is inaccessible, damaged, or prohibitively expensive.
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> The open source community has developed innovative tools and applications of mesh networking technology including the B.A.T.M.A.N. routing protocol developed by Freifunk, a system for internet access in remote areas of Afghanistan and Kenya (FabFi), and community controlled telephone systems in Nigeria, Columbia, Puerto Rico, South Africa, East Timor, and Brazil (VillageTelco). Harvard Law Professor Jonathan Zittrain and former FCC chairman Julius Genachowski recently advocated for the use of mesh networks to provide phone access during times of crisis when mobile networks are overloaded.
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> The Problem
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> Wireless Mesh Networking is still in its nascent stages, and the innovations and experimentation of the open source community are playing a vital role in advancing the technology. However, there has also been significant proprietary and military interest in the technology, and companies are seeking patents in many areas of WMN already explored by the open source community. We unfortunately know what can happen when overbroad patents get granted—the rise of patent trolls, lawsuits that can threaten growing businesses, and threats that target entire areas of technology. We don't want to see that happen to mesh networking.
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> This is where you come in!
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> We have identified several patent applications that we believe particularly threaten the free development of mesh networking technology. There is a danger that these patents, if granted, will lock up the basic mesh network infrastructure and restrict advancement of and access to the technology.
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> We have been using the Patent Office’s new Preissuance Submissions procedure, which gives third parties an opportunity to tell patent examiners when they think a patent application shouldn't be granted. The procedure requires those third parties to submit publications predating the application that prove the ideas in the patent were not novel.
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> Which is why we need your help. We are again partnering with Ask Patents so you can help us identify the best prior art to reign in these applications. While prior art for issued patents must date back many years, these are recently filed applications for which relatively recent publications may be helpful. Look at each “Request for Prior Art” we post to learn the exact priority date.
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> Working together we can protect the mesh networking community from overbroad, illegitimate patents that threaten to stifle innovation and access to technologies that preserve personal freedoms.
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> APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR ENHANCING WIRELESS MESH NETWORK COMMUNICATIONS
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> ADAPTING EXTENSIBLE AUTHENTICATION PROTOCOL FOR LAYER 3 MESH NETWORKS
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> MESH NETWORK GATEWAY AND SECURITY SYSTEM
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Reposted here for posterity: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/20_June_2013
June 20th Meeting Minutes
= Attendees =
* Chris J, Jenny, Max, Juul, Miguel, Eddan.com, Sam
= Action Items =
* Decide on name (some suggested options further down in the notes)
* Research 501(c)x statuses:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Tax_Structure_Research
* Put together a brochure / pamphlet
* Website (contingent on name)
* Splash page design
* Glossary of terms (eg Fresnal zone, Hidden Node problem, etc) on the wiki
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[View More]MaxB began: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Terms
= Misc Notes =
* Community wireless vs. Municipal (gov run) or Corporate (eg Google Wifi)
* Hidden Node Problem:
** Request-to-Send and Clear-to-Send
** TDMA (Time Division Multiple Access):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_division_multiple_access
*** Someone at Noisebridge has worked on this, could maybe help port from
FreeBSD to Linux?
=Checking out the hardware!=
** Don't power them up without the antennas!!
** Need adapters for the external antennas to bullets
** AirGrids can only run on 5.2V max, meant to run off USB
** NanoBridges and AirGrids are 5GHz and will serve as the rooftop backbone
of the mesh.
** PicoStations are the street-level routers
= Crowdfunding Campaign =
* Raised over $1600 in one week! Awesome!
* Legal structure of accepting donations
** Very good accounting
* Should investigate 501(c)4
** Talk to folks at the SELC, recommended 501(c)7
* Talking to Noisebridge and SchoolFactory in the next week or two about
umbrella-ing under their 501(c)3
= Survey Responses =
* FILL IN
* 2/3 like the current logo
= Name Suggestions =
* Mycelium
* Wicelium
* Sudo Mesh
* Meta Mesh
* Root Net
* Super Web
* The Trunk
* Hive 10
* Orga Net
* Open and Notorious
* Sudo Net
* Oakland Wireless Network (OWN)
* Oakland Community-Organized Resilient Network (OCORN)
* Oakland Community Network
= Marketing Discussion =
* Sudo meant to reflect empowerment to fix it or make it yourself
** Include a brief definition of SUDO at the bottom of marketing materials
* 'FREE WIFI' sign and/or stickers for the mesh
* Adopt-A-Picostation
* Collate accessories for mounting and running a node and link to online
marketplaces on the site
= Folks to reach out to =
* Internet Archive and Brewster
* Kapor Foundation
= Report Backs =
* Still need to make a protocol decision
* Inventory Tracking! Mycelia Zero should be completed by next week:
Decentralized network of tools/objects, projects and people/skills - Access
control (choose to share)
** Need a weather-resistant sticker or tagging system - RFIDs?
** MyAssetTag.com - aluminum matte tags - available very tiny (0.25" x 1")
in batches of 100 for $32
** 'Property Of' stamps / tattoos to discourage theft
* OpenOakland feedback:
** Someone has a roof in the hills with a view of the airport (and thus LOL)
= Outreach Strategy =
* Origin of the outdoor mesh could be LOL/SOL/Cycles Bikery
* Would be easier to connect W Oakland
* We could split the hardware 50/50 between West and East Oakland, then run
a campaign to reach across the divides in Oakland to connect the two meshes!
* Reach up to Richmond to Internet Archive's awesome node!
= Mounting Solutions =
* Flower pots! (with plants that won't obstruct!)
* Birdhouses
* On the eve of the rooftop outside would be ideal
* Flags (American or Pirate version)
= Firmware =
* Directing network traffic is the major technical challenge
* Encourage participants to use BitTorrent clients that support uTP
(microtorrent protocol)
* Should have two options:
1. People replace their existing access point (which they donate to us)
with a PicoStation
2. People keep their existing access point and add the PicoStation to their
setup, which runs off their router
** Folks can also host a rooftop node
* Focus on aesthetic unobstrusiveness
* Set up a way to split the network into several access points: back
channel (for the mesh nodes to connect to eachother), open channel (for
public connecting) and private channel (for folks in house/etc, more
bandwidth, can be secured with password, etc)
* Things to add to the firmware:
** Privoxy! Non-caching web proxy for block "obnoxious internet junk"
** Ghostery (protect from tracking)
** Adblock (allow for easy opt-in)
* Put passwords on the PoE adapters and let people maintain their own
node's level of privacy, upgrades, etc
= Useful Anecdotes =
* Internet Archive has created a super node up in Richmond (~15km from here)
* Chris has used a dish and 4ft antenna like ours and with line of sight
reached up to 2 miles
* Chris has created a router with an xbee radio (cheaper, takes less power)
hooked up to the serial port to take in different kinds of sensor data
** Air quality egg
** Router w/ xbee unit for additional cost
= Needs =
* Antennas towers
** Telescoping flagpoles! (suggested by Seattle Meshnet) - up to 20ft,
available Harbor Freight for $50
* Wooden blocks with hinges to direct the Picos
* Ubiquiti sector antennas as major backbone points (2 x 2 x) - up to 40
subscribers, with dishes pointing the signal outward in all directions
= Research Assignment =
Homework Assignment: Research a Mesh Project that has succeeded or failed
* Week 1: Marc
* Week 2: Jenny
* Week 3: Chris
* August: Eddan
= Web Resources =
* RadioLabs (antennas and such): http://www.radiolabs.com/
* CeroWRT - solving the issue of bufferbloat in OpenWRT:
http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt
* BISmark (detect ISP issues and home traffic): http://projectbismark.net/
* MyAssetTag.com (for tagging outdoor routers with barcodes):
http://myassettag.com
Oh yeah, we're checking out hardware for testing here:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Checkouts
~mesh the planet!~
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
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"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
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I set up a mapping application so we can start mapping out potential nodes.
If you add a node, please put information about whether we'd have access to
put a node node on the roof or mount it on the side of the building, or
only inside the building, and put your name so we know who to talk to about
each node.
http://meshmap.sudoroom.org/
Hi everyone.
Meeting tonight is 8:30 as always.
On the agenda is:
* Introductions and icebreaker.
* Have a look at the hardware we bought. Intro for less technical folks.
* State of the crowdfunding campaign and how to proceed.
* Follow up on last weeks agenda items and turning them into action items.
* -end of meeting- work on agenda items for as long as people want.
** I'm specifically interested in getting building our firmware, so if
anyone want to join me for a firmware hacking \o/
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[View More]Jenny and myself may be delayed (hopefully not), but if we are, we should
be there by 9 pm. Also this group has no leaders: If you get there and
no-one else is setting up a table and gathering people up for the mesh
meeting, then you can totally do it! (even if it's your first time there!).
There are sudo beers in the fridge for suggested donation $2. See you
tonight!
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Hi. I wanted to get the name and logo discussion off the ground.
First a bit of history as i understand it: In 2009 Mark Burdett (and
others) started an east bay community mesh networking project called
510pen. It had several nodes in Oakland (maybe 20+), and still has a few
active nodes. The routers used were open-mesh.com routers, which come
pre-configured for mesh. 510pen applied for some decent amount of funding
(Mark can elaborate) but did not get it. Over time the project stagnated
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The assets carried over from 510pen are:
* A small amount of brand recognition from the people who ran or are
still running mesh nodes.
* The logo: https://510pen.org/
* A few deployed mesh routers.
Our current project could be communicated as a reboot of 510pen, or as a
new project with roots in 510pen, or as an entirely new project. We have to
decide if we want to re-use the name and/or logo of 510pen.
To get a sense of people's opinions, here's a survey:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PFL7B25
Please fill it out!
At the meeting this upcoming Thursday, we'll give everyone a few minutes to
fill out the survey if they haven't already and then have a discussion
about it.
Personally, here are my totally biased thoughts on the logo and name, and I
invite everyone else to chime in with theirs:
510pen pros:
* It communicates to locals that it's a local project.
* It puts a focus on the open, which we're all about.
* It's clever.
510pen cons:
* Does not communicate what the project is (except open).
* Does not work well outside of the bay area where people don't know 510.
* Difficult to communicate in speech. Most people Jenny and myself have
talked to needed it explained.
* It might be problematic if it expands to e.g. SF.
Logo pros:
* It's awesome.
* It references the nice Oakland oak tree design.
* It brings to mind roots, as in grass roots.
* It doesn't look corporate.
* It works well in black and white.
Logo cons:
* It looks like the houses are connected underground, which brings to
mind cables, not wifi. (but then again, i think we should be focused on
creating a community communications network, not specifically a wifi
network).
* It references the Oakland oak tree, even though it's not an
oakland-specific project.
Personally, I'd like to see us go with a different name but keep the logo.
How do you folks feel?
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Marc
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