I cant make tonight but I will bring my router and a laptop tomorrow.
Anyone configured a router yet? Has there been any meshing at sudo room?
Id like to know which protocol to start configuring tonight so we can mesh
tomorrow. If you dont mind a temporary node to add to your tables.
Sorry I cant leave the router. I need it for my home mesh. :/
Also, does anyone think its a cool idea to have mesh meetups wednesdays AND
thursdays (semi-officially)? Would avoid confusion and maybe increase
flexibility?
By the way, OTI/Commotion has endorsed Battlemesh. Is Sudo room or 510pen
considering. Its a week long battle of the mesh... April 15-21.
Alcides Gutierrez
http://e64.us
So I pinged the battlemesh list and hopefully sparked an interest to stream
video. Sounds like a discussion is starting. Fingers crossed.
Alcides Gutierrez
http://e64.us
Hey all!
Some notes from our meeting tonight! I'll repost them on the sudo room wiki
once we get it back up. Please peruse http://wiki.tidepools.org, my
research wiki for Tidepools/OTI, for past meeting notes (located under
'Ethnographic Metholodology > Field Notes) <3
=Attendees=
Miguel, Eno, Jenny
=Agenda=
*Grant application
*Miguel on potential business plan
=Notes=
*Start small, like just the San Antonio neighborhood
*Work alongside community organizations, churches, non-profits
*Miguel pitched an idea based on his research of Mt Saint Helen DC network,
to pitch to wealthier people to buy TWO routers, one for themselves and one
for East Oakland. Monthly or yearly subscription fee
**Paid maintenance crews
**Community-owned ISP
**Community Supported Internet (CSIs!)
**Half private membership, half non-profit donations
*Focus on keeping the cost down (full package for under $100)
*Ubiquiti routers are great because they're powered over ethernet
*HACK THE HILLS! Search quest for ideal line-of-site to Oakland locations
=Potental Business Plan=
1. Full service (will come to your house and install the router / rooftop
link)
2. DIY kit (w/ instructables)
3. Alternative routers that can still run the mesh firmware (open source
design)
=Action Items=
*Contact the San Antonio Community Development Corporation, Native Health
Center (34th & Int'l)
*Research business / community dev't in Fruitvale / San Antonio
neighborhoods
*Research legal logistics of mesh before involving community orgs
*Grant app for seed funding
*T-shirts and stickers!!
*Outreach campaign
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Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
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"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
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I went looking for cheap wifi routers that can run OpenWRT and came across
the TRENDnet N150 which sells for $26.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00979B8D8/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
It only has 4MB flash and 32MB RAM, but that might be enough. It uses
Qualcom's Atheros chips which seem to be well supported by OpenWRT.
TRENDnet is marketing it as an "Open-source wireless router for Linux
developers and open-source enthusiasts".
I'm going to go ahead and buy one so we can play with it and try to get
batman-adv on it.
I came across the story of this neighborhood mesh network in DC and thought
I'd share. They're using Commotion firmware on Ubiquity routers. They've
only managed to get a handful of nodes up but I think their experience is
informative.
I like his posts Start With People and Treat it like Infrastructure,
http://mountpleasantcwn.net/blog/
This marketing doc is good,
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3YVvUQQSjTpTkg5YkxNLXVXR3M/edit?pli=1
Rad meeting tonight! Here are notes, which shall be cross-posted to the
wiki: http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh
=Action Items=
==Immediate==
*OpenITP Grant - throw in your thoughts! -
https://pad.riseup.net/p/510penITPapp - due March 31st
*Market research on 4MB routers that will run OpenWRT
*Juul will research binoculars and send info to Mark (carryover item)
*Testing with satellite dishes - in sudo room next week! (after the main
meeting)
==Longer Term==
*Send out map and work on it
*Update website
**Commenting on nodes (Revent, Tidepools)
*Come up with a handout for going door-to-door
=Attendees=
Jenny, Miguel, Mark B, Bill, Jordan, with some OaklandWiki meshing ;D,
=Notes=
*How the site works:
**Create an account and put in the MAC address of the mesh router
**Allows us to build a list of all the routers on the network
*openmesh firmware runs a shell script when first installed, connects to
openmesh.org and our own instance, 510pen, is recognized and fed directly
to the router
*How the portal currently works:
**Pushes the HTML to openmesh.com if it updates
*How the portal could work:
**Data source on the mesh, some IP, every router could use static pages
(using javascript restful endpoints)
*We should get more routers! 8MB preferably, 4MB might work
*We'd need more CPU - WRT4GL's should work - CPU can easily be maxed out
depending on size of the mesh
*Installing fibre along International Blvd - a highspeed access point would
make it worthwhile to shoot across the city
*Research fibre in East Oakland
*Mesh nodes for GSM
*RanchWiFi - Solar ISP - Matt's connection
*Sudo GSM! We use all the protocols at sudo!!
*Old Sonic routers??
**Opt-in with Sonic? - Dane Jasper
*Should we abandon OpenMesh and flash routers with our own firmware? At the
very least, we should field test the firmwares out there.
*OpenMesh used to use OLSR, and is proud to have switched to batman-adv
*802.11s - mesh standard - what's the deal?
*BattleMesh!!! 4/20 in Denmark - we should keep tabs on how that pans out.
Or.. go?
=Reportbacks=
*Jenny followed up in #oti on weatherproof equipment Ubiquiti equipments
*Jenny and Mark B presented 510pen at Open Oakland.
*Follow up with Tony on Cisco connection - "how many routers do you need?"
he asked at Open Oakland meeting. Mark's answer, "ideally, one in every
other house."
*Bill did not flash the router ;) but his Coursera course is ending soon!
bOm,
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Meeting minutes are also archived here:
http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/21_February_2013
=Attendees=
Mark, Juul, Jenny, Bill, Miguel, Dres
=Debrief from Saturday's field trip=
*Replaced router at the Bikery in San Antonio (1) and Matt's house in
Fruitvale (2)
*Installed new router at the Bikery's second location (in the same building
as LOLspace) (3)
*Scoped out the rooftop situation at the LOL/SOL building
=Research=
*Bill did [[
http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/mesh/2013-February/000017.html research
on OLSR / routing protocols]
*Juul did [
http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/mesh/2013-February/000021.html research
on what's needed to do rooftop tests]
=Equipment Needs=
*Binoculars w/ built-in compass
*Normal compasses if the above can't be procured
*Tripods for mounting antennas
*Wifi USB dongles
*Wifi measuring device (from Ubiquiti)
*Weather-resistent enclosures
*Walkie talkies!
=Ideas=
*Wifi-based microwave interference detector
*Ham certification gives you some privileges on the wifi frequencies (up to
50 watts!?)
*Alameda island mesh network attempt:
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.network.wireless.alameda
*We should assess wifi rane in crappy weather conditions
*Schools, libraries, city buildings
=Needs Assessment=
*How much equipment can we procure from donations?
*DD-WRT and OpenWRT compliance with various kinds of routers
=Sudo Room Inventory=
*OpenMesh MR500
*1 Linksys WRT54GL v.1.1 (4 MB)
*2 Linksys WAP54G v.3.1 (2 MB)
=Action Items=
*Research on outdoor weatherproof equipment
**Jenny will talk to Commotion folks
*Work on OpenITP proposal.
*Work on proposal for OpenOakland / City of Oakland.
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Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
