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by Marc Juul

Hi. I wanted to get the name and logo discussion off the ground. First a bit of history as i understand it: In 2009 Mark Burdett (and others) started an east bay community mesh networking project called 510pen. It had several nodes in Oakland (maybe 20+), and still has a few active nodes. The routers used were open-mesh.com routers, which come pre-configured for mesh. 510pen applied for some decent amount of funding (Mark can elaborate) but did not get it. Over time the project stagnated and several routers went offline. The assets carried over from 510pen are: * A small amount of brand recognition from the people who ran or are still running mesh nodes. * The logo: https://510pen.org/ * A few deployed mesh routers. Our current project could be communicated as a reboot of 510pen, or as a new project with roots in 510pen, or as an entirely new project. We have to decide if we want to re-use the name and/or logo of 510pen. To get a sense of people's opinions, here's a survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PFL7B25 Please fill it out! At the meeting this upcoming Thursday, we'll give everyone a few minutes to fill out the survey if they haven't already and then have a discussion about it. Personally, here are my totally biased thoughts on the logo and name, and I invite everyone else to chime in with theirs: 510pen pros: * It communicates to locals that it's a local project. * It puts a focus on the open, which we're all about. * It's clever. 510pen cons: * Does not communicate what the project is (except open). * Does not work well outside of the bay area where people don't know 510. * Difficult to communicate in speech. Most people Jenny and myself have talked to needed it explained. * It might be problematic if it expands to e.g. SF. Logo pros: * It's awesome. * It references the nice Oakland oak tree design. * It brings to mind roots, as in grass roots. * It doesn't look corporate. * It works well in black and white. Logo cons: * It looks like the houses are connected underground, which brings to mind cables, not wifi. (but then again, i think we should be focused on creating a community communications network, not specifically a wifi network). * It references the Oakland oak tree, even though it's not an oakland-specific project. Personally, I'd like to see us go with a different name but keep the logo. How do you folks feel? -- Marc

13 years, 1 month

mesh t-shirts and stickers?

by mark burdett

Hi, I'd like to get some stickers and t-shirts printed :) t-shirts could be sold for a significant chunk of the cost of a node. and stickers can go on routers, folks' laptops, window of business running a mesh node, etc. What do folks think? --mark B.

13 years, 1 month

Mesh hardware has arrived!

by Marc Juul

Hi folks. The $2000 mesh hardware has arrived. Jenny and myself have spent the evening going through everything and making an inventory of what we have, what we need to get everything into working order and how much appears to work. We did a power-on test of all hardware (except the AirGrids which are weird and don't connect them to anything unless you know what you're doing or they'll fry!). The summary is that, we have the following working outdoor gear at our disposal: *15 nice big 2.4 ghz omni antennas with rooftop mounting brackets *18 nice slightly less big 2.4 ghz omni antennas *76 Ubiquiti Picostation 2 HPs *29 Ubiquiti Bullet 2 HPs *3 Ubiquiti AirGrid M5s *2 Ubiquiti Nanobridge M5s *1 Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 There were only three picostations out of the whole lot that did not power on and they're not included in the above count. If we count gear bought by Jenny and myself outside of this auction, that means we have enough for. *105 2.4 ghz street level (or rooftop) nodes. *13x 5 ghz rooftop nodes. *A few (10-20?) 2.4 ghz indoor nodes. There's a more detailed inventory here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Inventory With info on what we need to buy to get everything working. We also have spreadsheets with even more detail and serial numbers written down that we'll get online soon. Everything without serial numbers is in boxes with serial numbers.

13 years, 1 month

Re: [Mesh] [sudo-discuss] [OpenOakland Brigade] [OpenOakland] Community Wireless Networks Across America

by Miguel Vargas

Steve, Yes! We've been on the hunt for locations in the hills. Lets coordinate a scouting trip to your house with a couple people from the mesh team. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Not really sure if this is useful or not, but I'd be willing to donate a > spot on my roof for an antenna. I'm part way up the hills, and have a line > of sight view of Lake Merritt, chunks of downtown, and a wide swath of the > flats of Oakland, Emeryville, and Berkeley. Not sure if I can see the > sudoroom, as it is probably obscured by some taller buildings between here > and there. > > http://goo.gl/maps/bGpNk > > Is this useful? Perhaps as a relay between different neighborhoods or > something? > > -steve > > On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Miguel Vargas <unroar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Reading that description I'd say our mesh network project at sudoroom is > probably farther along than what he's offering for giving help, though it > would still be great to get his help. We recently purchased 100 routers and > our putting together plans for doing outreach in a neighborhood, which is > probably going to be San Antonio in Fruitvale. > > If anybody is thinking of donating please consider giviving to our local > project instead at > https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> There's an active Mesh Network project in Oakland once again, the central >> locus of which is at Sudoroom. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, howard dyckoff <howarddy(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Most of the Mesh network activity was previously confined to SF. >>> >>> I think there was some activity in North Oakland 2-3 years back. >>> >>> If I recall correctly, the cells have to be within half a mile or a >>> third of a mile of each other.... pls verify, I'm sure the range has >>> increased gradually. >>> >>> And I think the min cost of a local neighborhood transmitter and >>> antennae was between $500 and $1000 a few years ago. I hope that pricing >>> is better now. >>> >>> The problem, I think , is that the areas most in need of this have fewer >>> and less successful neighborhood associations and fewer households that >>> could afford to setup mesh nodes. >>> >>> That's unfortunate since this could provide really inexpensive internet >>> access for everyone. >>> >>> I am sure "Business Improvement Districts" could be involved, but there >>> are few of them operating in East and West Oakland. We'd need a big >>> grant to cover those areas -- or a lot of neighborhood organizing. >>> >>> And we'd have to plan for some of the equipment being stolen. As an >>> example, the new library at 81st Ave, where we held an event earlier this >>> year, had many of its computers stolen a few weeks after it opened. >>> >>> But I don't want to be too negative here. I would definitely support >>> this effort. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Eddie Tejeda <eddie(a)codeforamerica.org>wrote: >>> >>>> Hey everyone! >>>> >>>> Checkout this cool project by Preston Rhea, from Open Technology >>>> Institute at the New America Foundation. He's thinking that Oakland will be >>>> one of the pilot cities. There are existing local mesh network projects in >>>> the area, right? People know how those projects are doing? This could be a >>>> collaborative opportunity. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://crowdhitch.millennialtrain.co/campaign/detail/1330 >>>> >>>> >>>> The project is to spread locally-managed community wireless mesh >>>>> networks around the country. I'll teach local technologists and community >>>>> organizers how to use regular Wi-Fi routers and free, open source software >>>>> to build their own community Internet infrastructure. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The project will use Commotion <http://commotionwireless.net/>, a >>>>> free, open source software project designed to make it easy for anyone to >>>>> set up their own mesh network. We'll share tools and methods for >>>>> participatory technology pedagogy, and the routers that we set up together >>>>> will remain with the locals to seed their own mesh networks. With these >>>>> seeds spread, people in each city can continue to grow locally-managed >>>>> Internet networks and spur innovation on a shared platform accessible to >>>>> any resident. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Eddie A. Tejeda >>>> @eddietejeda >>>> 2012 Fellow, Code for America >>>> http://codeforamerica.org >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "OpenOakland" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAALX_7Y--m8x0%3DnuHdvQWAOCRJ… >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "OpenOakland" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAGOPvtFSs8JtEGTapLhZfmK%3DxZ… >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tony Barreca >> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca >> Skype: tonybarreca >> Twitter: tbarreca >> Mobile: (510) 710-5864 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenOakland" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CADq-UhNou4%2BziqqZvGDsjyryJm… >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > >

13 years, 1 month

Re: [Mesh] [OpenOakland Brigade] [OpenOakland] Community Wireless Networks Across America

by Tony Barreca

There's an active Mesh Network project in Oakland once again, the central locus of which is at Sudoroom. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, howard dyckoff <howarddy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Most of the Mesh network activity was previously confined to SF. > > I think there was some activity in North Oakland 2-3 years back. > > If I recall correctly, the cells have to be within half a mile or a third > of a mile of each other.... pls verify, I'm sure the range has increased > gradually. > > And I think the min cost of a local neighborhood transmitter and antennae > was between $500 and $1000 a few years ago. I hope that pricing is better > now. > > The problem, I think , is that the areas most in need of this have fewer > and less successful neighborhood associations and fewer households that > could afford to setup mesh nodes. > > That's unfortunate since this could provide really inexpensive internet > access for everyone. > > I am sure "Business Improvement Districts" could be involved, but there > are few of them operating in East and West Oakland. We'd need a big > grant to cover those areas -- or a lot of neighborhood organizing. > > And we'd have to plan for some of the equipment being stolen. As an > example, the new library at 81st Ave, where we held an event earlier this > year, had many of its computers stolen a few weeks after it opened. > > But I don't want to be too negative here. I would definitely support this > effort. > > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Eddie Tejeda <eddie(a)codeforamerica.org>wrote: > >> Hey everyone! >> >> Checkout this cool project by Preston Rhea, from Open Technology >> Institute at the New America Foundation. He's thinking that Oakland will be >> one of the pilot cities. There are existing local mesh network projects in >> the area, right? People know how those projects are doing? This could be a >> collaborative opportunity. >> >> >> http://crowdhitch.millennialtrain.co/campaign/detail/1330 >> >> >> The project is to spread locally-managed community wireless mesh >>> networks around the country. I'll teach local technologists and community >>> organizers how to use regular Wi-Fi routers and free, open source software >>> to build their own community Internet infrastructure. >> >> >> >>> >>> The project will use Commotion <http://commotionwireless.net/>, a free, >>> open source software project designed to make it easy for anyone to set up >>> their own mesh network. We'll share tools and methods for participatory >>> technology pedagogy, and the routers that we set up together will remain >>> with the locals to seed their own mesh networks. With these seeds spread, >>> people in each city can continue to grow locally-managed Internet networks >>> and spur innovation on a shared platform accessible to any resident. >> >> >> -- >> Eddie A. Tejeda >> @eddietejeda >> 2012 Fellow, Code for America >> http://codeforamerica.org >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenOakland" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAALX_7Y--m8x0%3DnuHdvQWAOCRJ… >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "OpenOakland" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAGOPvtFSs8JtEGTapLhZfmK%3DxZ… > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Tony Barreca LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonybarreca Skype: tonybarreca Twitter: tbarreca Mobile: (510) 710-5864

13 years, 1 month

Meeting notes 6/13

by Miguel Vargas

Good meeting last night. We covered a lot of ground. I've tried to highlight action items in red below. Wepay campaign: at 2/3ds. $1293. We have 100 mesh routers. Goals of the mesh project: - off the grid communication, - create an alternate way to communicate. more controlled by the people - a way for disadvantage people to get internet access - sustainable business model - share internet connections. everybody has to buy their own internet connection - usable phone service. - why are you paying comcast? - load balancing - access to the internet - .oakland domain name - replacing the internet not controled by the powers - encryption by default - low-bandwidth free internet Name: - sudonet mesh - sudomesh - confusion with the word psuedo - 510pen - optomesh ?? Organization: - nonprofit - 501c3 - paperwork - lots of tax forms - under noisebridge - nonprofit isp run by volunteers - 501c4 same benefits as 501c3 - “social welfare” organization - still get donor tax deduction - orgs might have bias against them - coops - can’t get tax deductible donations - nonprofit where donating can get you on the board - we need to talk to lawyers Business models - cost - buying routers - people adopt routers - people buy routers - couple of full time real employees - mounting routers/antennae - managing of network - bandwidth - electricity - advertising on splash page - name the wifi network as the web address - sell service to business districts - digital bulletin boards - skill share board - begging for cash model - OLPC model, - people pay 2x for themselves and someone else - ISPs ToS don’t allow you to share bandwidth - get local ISPs to contribute - monkeybrains? - competing with Unwired, and their radio frequency - legal advisers??? Metaplanning for node deployment - get in touch with people that have mesh network experience - get familiar - look at google earth for 3d building structures - ham license - study cram sessions - get in touch with that community - aprs network by ham radio operators - weather - packet radio - allows you to mount masts - allows you to amplify wifi - fog/rain? - aprs.fi Mesh protocol Openwrt - cjdns - new - runs as a program - scales ? - encrypted by default - untested - batman-adv - lower level - efficient multicast - no encryption - olsr - older - runs as a program - runs on a lot of devices - more tested - 2000-3000 node network - every node can be part of the mesh - windows, android, linux - babel - really easy?? - Create an image that you can flash on all routers, two options: - script after boot - web page that generates a custom compile - Get people with experience to come talk to us Plan for testing received hardware and inventory management - 100 routers - mostly ubiquity picostations - tagging - barcodes - put it in a spreasheet - etch them end - test them all Plan for getting the local community involved and finding people willing to adopt a node - highschools and college students - Community watch - neighborhood survaillance - generalized outreach Action items - form sub groups Neighborhood choice - San Antonio neighborhood - we have a good partners in the community - LOLspace/Bikery - none of us live there - maybe harder to do troubleshooting/outreach - West Oakland neighborhood

13 years, 1 month

Meeting tonight at 8:30 pm in sudo room

by Marc Juul

With the recent crowd funding campaign and router purchase we're moving rapidly from "group of people interest in mesh" towards becoming a sizable physical mesh. There is much work ahead of us. I suggest that we have a two-hour meeting, with at least the following agenda items (feel free to add more): *Choosing a name :Are we 510pen or sudo mesh or sudo net or something else? We don't need to decide today, but I want to hear people's thoughts. *Formalize organization :Begin writing articles of association. Choice of 501c3 or other group. Getting umbrellaed until we can get 501c3 status. *"Business model" brainstorm :Let's throw some ideas on the table. I'm assuming we'll soon need two full-time people working on this project. How do we make that happen, how do we get internet bandwidth and how do we keep the mesh going indefinitely? *Metaplanning for node deployment :Researching deployment strategies. Mapping suitable locations. Mounting strategies for rooftops, walls and windows. Mapping out available spectrum and channel usage. *Final decision on initial mesh protocol :Maybe the best way to decide is to choose one and see how well it works in the initial 100-node mesh and then switch to something else if it sucks? *Firmware plan :What do we need the firmware to do? Let's delegate the different aspects (splash page? IP allocation? IPv6? ZeroConf? gateway selection? http proxy?) *Plan for testing received hardware and inventory management :The 100 routers should arrive Monday. How do we test, tag and log? Does it make sense to use barcode or rfid tags (barcodes can fade in the sun and maybe rfid tags are slightly activated by the wifi signal and cause interference) *Plan for getting the local community involved and finding people willing to adopt a node :Longer term, maybe we can reach out to local highschools and colleges for a node deployment workforce. Could look good on their college applications if we pitch it right! *Marketing :Fliers? Website? Splash page design? For people who have time but can't come in person, we'll try to set up a google hangout. For people who don't have time, please chime in over email with your ideas / suggestions. As always the meeting minutes will be available online after the meeting. Mesh the planet! -- Marc

13 years, 1 month

Crowdfunding campaign

by Marc Juul

Yay! We're over one third of the way there with the crowdfunding campaign: https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network I set up a few alternate ways to help out here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh#Crowdfunding_campaign We could use some reddit upvotes: http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1g90fu/bootstrapping_the_oakla… I also made a bitcoin wallet address, which I'll give here as well: 12RxU4DpLpdWcmEBn7Tj325CCXBwt5i9Hc To protect us from someone changing the address, I protected the main mesh wiki page so only admins can change it. Please give me your wiki logins so i can make you admins (if you're interested). -- Marc

13 years, 1 month

Mesh WePay Campaign

by Jenny Ryan

Hey friends! Our WePay campaign is live, and it would be awesome if those of you who said you'd loan or donate to the cause could contribute there: https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network I will probably raise it to $3000 and articulate exactly what the budget is allocated to. Let me know if you think of copy/design tweaks, and please share widely on your networks. Praveen awesomely promoted a Facebook post about the campaign, which is getting some good attention now <3 Oh, and y'all are welcome to attend this event Open Garden is hosting at Orange this Thursday (after which I'm heading to sudo to meet with y'all!): http://we-are-the-network.eventbrite.com - Please RSVP if you want to come :) ~!~!~!~!~ Mesh the Planet! ~!~!~!~!~ Love, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

13 years, 1 month

International Summit for Community Wireless Networks | 2-4 October 2013 | Berlin

by Eddan Katz

Deadline for submissions extended until July 1. http://2013.wirelesssummit.org/ sent from eddan.com

13 years, 1 month

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