There's an active Mesh Network project in Oakland once again, the central
locus of which is at Sudoroom.
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, howard dyckoff <howarddy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Most of the Mesh network activity was previously confined to SF.
>
> I think there was some activity in North Oakland 2-3 years back.
>
> If I recall correctly, the cells have to be within half a mile or a third
> of a mile of each other.... pls verify, I'm sure the range has increased
> gradually.
>
> And I think the min cost of a local neighborhood transmitter and antennae
> was between $500 and $1000 a few years ago. I hope that pricing is better
> now.
>
> The problem, I think , is that the areas most in need of this have fewer
> and less successful neighborhood associations and fewer households that
> could afford to setup mesh nodes.
>
> That's unfortunate since this could provide really inexpensive internet
> access for everyone.
>
> I am sure "Business Improvement Districts" could be involved, but there
> are few of them operating in East and West Oakland. We'd need a big
> grant to cover those areas -- or a lot of neighborhood organizing.
>
> And we'd have to plan for some of the equipment being stolen. As an
> example, the new library at 81st Ave, where we held an event earlier this
> year, had many of its computers stolen a few weeks after it opened.
>
> But I don't want to be too negative here. I would definitely support this
> effort.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Eddie Tejeda <eddie(a)codeforamerica.org>wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone!
>>
>> Checkout this cool project by Preston Rhea, from Open Technology
>> Institute at the New America Foundation. He's thinking that Oakland will be
>> one of the pilot cities. There are existing local mesh network projects in
>> the area, right? People know how those projects are doing? This could be a
>> collaborative opportunity.
>>
>>
>> http://crowdhitch.millennialtrain.co/campaign/detail/1330
>>
>>
>> The project is to spread locally-managed community wireless mesh
>>> networks around the country. I'll teach local technologists and community
>>> organizers how to use regular Wi-Fi routers and free, open source software
>>> to build their own community Internet infrastructure.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The project will use Commotion <http://commotionwireless.net/>, a free,
>>> open source software project designed to make it easy for anyone to set up
>>> their own mesh network. We'll share tools and methods for participatory
>>> technology pedagogy, and the routers that we set up together will remain
>>> with the locals to seed their own mesh networks. With these seeds spread,
>>> people in each city can continue to grow locally-managed Internet networks
>>> and spur innovation on a shared platform accessible to any resident.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Eddie A. Tejeda
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Good meeting last night. We covered a lot of ground. I've tried to
highlight action items in red below.
Wepay campaign: at 2/3ds. $1293. We have 100 mesh routers.
Goals of the mesh project:
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off the grid communication,
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create an alternate way to communicate. more controlled by the people
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a way for disadvantage people to get internet access
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sustainable business model
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share internet connections. everybody has to buy their own internet
connection
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usable phone service.
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why are you paying comcast?
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load balancing
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access to the internet
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.oakland domain name
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replacing the internet not controled by the powers
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encryption by default
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low-bandwidth free internet
Name:
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sudonet mesh
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sudomesh
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confusion with the word psuedo
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510pen
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optomesh ??
Organization:
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nonprofit
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501c3
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paperwork
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lots of tax forms
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under noisebridge
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nonprofit isp run by volunteers
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501c4 same benefits as 501c3
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“social welfare” organization
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still get donor tax deduction
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orgs might have bias against them
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coops
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can’t get tax deductible donations
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nonprofit where donating can get you on the board
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we need to talk to lawyers
Business models
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cost
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buying routers
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people adopt routers
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people buy routers
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couple of full time real employees
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mounting routers/antennae
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managing of network
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bandwidth
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electricity
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advertising on splash page
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name the wifi network as the web address
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sell service to business districts
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digital bulletin boards
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skill share board
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begging for cash model
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OLPC model,
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people pay 2x for themselves and someone else
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ISPs ToS don’t allow you to share bandwidth
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get local ISPs to contribute
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monkeybrains?
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competing with Unwired, and their radio frequency
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legal advisers???
Metaplanning for node deployment
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get in touch with people that have mesh network experience
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get familiar
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look at google earth for 3d building structures
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ham license
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study cram sessions
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get in touch with that community
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aprs network by ham radio operators
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weather
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packet radio
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allows you to mount masts
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allows you to amplify wifi
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fog/rain?
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aprs.fi
Mesh protocol Openwrt
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cjdns
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new
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runs as a program
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scales ?
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encrypted by default
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untested
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batman-adv
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lower level
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efficient multicast
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no encryption
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olsr
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older
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runs as a program
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runs on a lot of devices
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more tested
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2000-3000 node network
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every node can be part of the mesh
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windows, android, linux
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babel
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really easy??
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Create an image that you can flash on all routers, two options:
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script after boot
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web page that generates a custom compile
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Get people with experience to come talk to us
Plan for testing received hardware and inventory management
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100 routers
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mostly ubiquity picostations
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tagging
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barcodes
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put it in a spreasheet
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etch them end
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test them all
Plan for getting the local community involved and finding people willing to
adopt a node
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highschools and college students
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Community watch
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neighborhood survaillance
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generalized outreach
Action items
- form sub groups
Neighborhood choice
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San Antonio neighborhood
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we have a good partners in the community
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LOLspace/Bikery
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none of us live there
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maybe harder to do troubleshooting/outreach
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West Oakland neighborhood
With the recent crowd funding campaign and router purchase we're moving
rapidly from "group of people interest in mesh" towards becoming a sizable
physical mesh.
There is much work ahead of us. I suggest that we have a two-hour meeting,
with at least the following agenda items (feel free to add more):
*Choosing a name
:Are we 510pen or sudo mesh or sudo net or something else? We don't need to
decide today, but I want to hear people's thoughts.
*Formalize organization
:Begin writing articles of association. Choice of 501c3 or other group.
Getting umbrellaed until we can get 501c3 status.
*"Business model" brainstorm
:Let's throw some ideas on the table. I'm assuming we'll soon need two
full-time people working on this project. How do we make that happen, how
do we get internet bandwidth and how do we keep the mesh going indefinitely?
*Metaplanning for node deployment
:Researching deployment strategies. Mapping suitable locations. Mounting
strategies for rooftops, walls and windows. Mapping out available spectrum
and channel usage.
*Final decision on initial mesh protocol
:Maybe the best way to decide is to choose one and see how well it works in
the initial 100-node mesh and then switch to something else if it sucks?
*Firmware plan
:What do we need the firmware to do? Let's delegate the different aspects
(splash page? IP allocation? IPv6? ZeroConf? gateway selection? http proxy?)
*Plan for testing received hardware and inventory management
:The 100 routers should arrive Monday. How do we test, tag and log? Does it
make sense to use barcode or rfid tags (barcodes can fade in the sun and
maybe rfid tags are slightly activated by the wifi signal and cause
interference)
*Plan for getting the local community involved and finding people willing
to adopt a node
:Longer term, maybe we can reach out to local highschools and colleges for
a node deployment workforce. Could look good on their college applications
if we pitch it right!
*Marketing
:Fliers? Website? Splash page design?
For people who have time but can't come in person, we'll try to set up a
google hangout. For people who don't have time, please chime in over email
with your ideas / suggestions. As always the meeting minutes will be
available online after the meeting.
Mesh the planet!
--
Marc
Hey friends!
Our WePay campaign is live, and it would be awesome if those of you who
said you'd loan or donate to the cause could contribute there:
https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network
I will probably raise it to $3000 and articulate exactly what the budget is
allocated to. Let me know if you think of copy/design tweaks, and please
share widely on your networks.
Praveen awesomely promoted a Facebook post about the campaign, which is
getting some good attention now <3
Oh, and y'all are welcome to attend this event Open Garden is hosting at
Orange this Thursday (after which I'm heading to sudo to meet with y'all!):
http://we-are-the-network.eventbrite.com - Please RSVP if you want to come
:)
~!~!~!~!~ Mesh the Planet! ~!~!~!~!~
Love,
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
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So, as some of you know, Jenny and myself have invested in the following
hardware:
5 ghz 802.11n hardware:
4x Bullet M5 HP - 150 mbps - needs external antenna
1x Nanostation M5 - 300 mbps - semi-directional panel antenna
1x Nanobridge M5 high-gain - 300 mbps - directional parabolic antenna
2.4 ghz 802.11n hardware:
1x Freestation 2 - 300 mbps - semi-directional panel atenna
Here are my experiences with the gear so far.
The Freestation OpenWRT image has a bug in it that makes it unusable after
flashing. It should be easy to recover from using the serial console
though.
I've successfully put OpenWRT on one of the Bullet M5s. It's easy to flash
the Ubiquiti gear with tftp. Easier than the flashing the Asus routers.
When testing the Bullet M5s I noticed that the original firmware has a
really cool feature. It's a frequency analyzer for the 5 ghz spectrum that
will allow us to find out which parts of the spectrum are most free of
noise and other signals in different areas. We could mount one of these
Bullets on a pole on a bike with a battery and then bike around Oakland to
create a map of how much interference we'll be dealing with in different
areas! I put some info on it on the wiki:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Software_tools
I haven't done anything with the nanostation or nanobridge yet.
As a side note, it seems like the Freestation routers might be going out of
production. Some sellers stopped selling them and the price has dropped to
$60 for the 2.4 ghz models and $70 for the 5 ghz models. That's a bit sad,
as they seem like a pretty good deal, but maybe that means we'll be able to
get them for cheap.
I created a wish list with gear for all price ranges, so you can point
people here if they'd rather donate a thing than cash :-)
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Wishlist
--
Marc Juul
Dear Sudoers,
Give us your old, your broken,
your wireless routers yearning to be free...
We will take them, and make them
great once more (access points too!)
–part of the mesh, the metamycelia
of our dreams.
In the stack of crates
that creates our cubbies,
there is a place...
For your lost ones, potential nodes
in a network more aptly befitting
of the revolution.
Contribute them, anonymously if you wish,
or sudonoymously, be you a phish!
Love,
the Seriously Silly Sudo Society
(https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh)
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Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Hello everyone! I hung out with dan and bentley from seattle on mumble last
night to clear up some things about cjdns. Most of the following i already
knew but wanted to confirm my understanding before elaborating.
Before i continue, id like to say that while i prefer cjdns, i support
people deploying what they are more comfortable with. There exist several
connected communities with different protocols running. I heard of some in
Italy that connect batman-adv communties through babeld communities in the
middle.
So cjdns is indeed a mesh protocol and does not require the internet (which
is also a mesh net) to work. What it does require is a connection (radios,
wires, switches, etc.). It may have required the internet to get it off the
ground but telecommix helped a great deal with their ethernet interface
contribution.
And cjdns can act as a gateway to the internet or it can be completely
isolated from it. So you can provide internet access or you can have a
darknet (not to be confused with an anonymous darknet). Or you can connect
your local darknet to another local darknet over the internet.
While cjdns differs from other protocols in routing techniques, its not
because the developer ignored the work behind other protocols. Instead it
was felt that a different approach was needed. The approach started slow
but seems to be in a great condition now.
Routes are determined by bitshifting voodoo on the address packets and
lowest latency and lowest packet loss. Every node keeping track of routes
to addresses near its own address space.
As it stands now, cjdns operates on layers 2 & 3. It sets up routing tables
up to 1mb in size and prunes unused & poor connections (not sure if its
only when a limit is reached). It is not meant to anonymize traffic but
instead offer privacy through native encryption. Tor, i2p, and any other
service can operate on cjdns.
Im also told that the code is pleasant on the eyes, so you might like to
start with
https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/admin/angel/Angel.c
It does throw people off initially because its not what they expect
(batman,,tor,internet access, etc).
Any specific concerns, please feel free to raise them. Ill be hanging out
again tonight and Ill see what answers i can get.
Alcides Gutierrez
http://e64.us