Hi, as we've discussed here before, the LOL/SOL folks are really interested
in having a mesh network provide internet access for their entire building
(I believe 25 or so residents). I talked to Elokin about it again over the
weekend.
Anyone interested in heading over there sometime - perhaps tonight during
their regular monday hack night? We could do some more site survey work
and we could even bring some access points to install..
--mark B.
Hello!
Restore The 4th San Francisco is hosting an Anti-NSA privacy event this
August 4th. I'm a fan of the related work this group is doing, and would
love to see you guys there. We could very likely give someone from the
group a chance to speak and explain the project, and/or set-up a table.
We've got some great speakers in the works, including a confirmed speech
from whistle-blower Mark Klein (Room 641A).
Personally, I've been following this list for a brief time, but have
limited hardware/software experience and much of the conversation is over
my head. However, I hope to contribute to the discussion of alternative
power supply for the nodes, and assist with outreach through Restore The
4th.
Thank you for reading, and all the best,
Sam
Heading over now - see Marc's email from last week for ideas on what to
come and hack on :)
Jenny
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's replace the meeting next week with a hack night and start early! I
> know some of us will be hacking on the firmware but there are many other
> (and non-tech) things to hack in.
>
> Next Thursday (the 18th), starting at 5 pm, in sudo room.
>
> If you can't be there at 5 pm, come by later. We'll be there until late
> late.
>
> If you don't know what to work on, we'll send out another email soon with
> things that you can come and hack/work on! Here's a short list:
>
> Name ideas.
> Sticker T-shirt design.
> Outreach and community engagement strategies.
> Web design for splash and admin pages.
> Fliers and texts explaining what the project is about.
> Fundraising!
> Firmware stuff.
> Ways to mount routers on windows.
>
> --
> Marc
>
> _______________________________________________
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> mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh
>
>
Hey so I was thinking about some of the things that were percolating
during the last meeting and I was wondering if folks thought it might be
a good idea to host an upcoming "Today I Learned" session. There are a
bunch of open slots in the next couple of months and it looks like
there's a lot of enthusiasm about mesh stuff among the sudo crowd.
We could encourage people to bring in their own routers, or potentially
provide some of the ones that the mesh group already has (don't have to
be the ubiquiti ones). We could all flash them together, teach people a
bit about openWRT and batman-adv, the very basics of networking, and
have them set-up to bring the routers home and have their own mesh node up.
Likely, we would be targeting mostly the Sudo folks who already have
some knowledge or interest and who might or might not be within our sort
of target areas, but I think it could be really useful in doing a couple
of things:
1. Practicing a lot of the public facing aspects of setting up the mesh
among folks who are already excited and onboard.
2. Motivation to move forwards on figuring out how we'd like to
configure mesh nodes
3. Getting a feel for communicating the important technological and
cultural aspects of the mesh to the public.
4. Getting some momentum on the project and setting up a bunch of mesh
nodes!
I have a pretty reasonable amount of free time over the upcoming few
months. I'm working on scaling up my relevant technical skills, but I'm
certainly not as knowledgeable as others on this list. That being said,
I could make myself available for some of the other less technical
aspects of bringing something like this together (coordinating,
logistics, cleaning, etc).
What do people think?
Let's replace the meeting next week with a hack night and start early! I
know some of us will be hacking on the firmware but there are many other
(and non-tech) things to hack in.
Next Thursday (the 18th), starting at 5 pm, in sudo room.
If you can't be there at 5 pm, come by later. We'll be there until late
late.
If you don't know what to work on, we'll send out another email soon with
things that you can come and hack/work on! Here's a short list:
Name ideas.
Sticker T-shirt design.
Outreach and community engagement strategies.
Web design for splash and admin pages.
Fliers and texts explaining what the project is about.
Fundraising!
Firmware stuff.
Ways to mount routers on windows.
--
Marc
*July 11th Meeting Minutes [reposted
here<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/11_July_2013>
]
*
= Agenda =
*Update on crowdfunding campaign [
https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network]
*Report-back on existing mesh: Jenny on OTI's Commotion project
*Firmware overview
*Name brainstorm! [https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Naming]
**Set tentative deadline? Three weeks?
=Attendees=
*Marc, Mikey, Nader, Jenny, Miguel, Jacob, Mitar, MaxB
=Announcements=
*We now have $2,203.00 from the WePay, and still around 0.7 Bitcoins (about
$70 depending on the date)
=Report-Back=
*OTI's Commotion Project is currently being tested in Red Hook, Brooklyn
and Detroit (3 different community meshes) - https://commotionwireless.net/
*[1] http://ulysses.detroitfuturelab.org/, [2]
http://www.our-morningside.com/, [3] http://ms-mesh.org/
=What we're doing=
*Mesh the east bay! (at least to start with....)
*Batman-adv firmware at least for first deployment
*Planning on getting bandwith donations in order to serve the internet to
hosts.
*Free to the "consumer"
*Business ideas - local businesses could put small ads on splash page
*VPN tunnels mean IPs could be hidden
*TOR exit node? Limits liability
=Today I learned=
*https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned
*It would be nice to hold one on mesh networking
*Introducing mesh to the public
=Firmware Stuff=
*New Page: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware
*Firmware brainstorm: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Firmware
**Mesh, Public, Private
**Bandwidth shaping
**Remote administration (if allowed)
**Web admin interface
***Change private SSID
***Status of node
***Sharing allocation
**Report/status
**Local services
=How to Pitch to Community=
*Opening up / sharing your wifi for neighbors to use
*Why paying twice, at home and when on move?
=Naming=
*For 10$ you could vote on a name!
*should it be independent of organization, geography, and hacker space?
*SSIDEAL; Route-Around
*Need to determine our organizational structure -
non-organizationally-linked neutral name
=Berkeley Co-op Folks=
*Would like first to mesh the houses
*Would also dig potentially creating the link between houses and the
Internet Archive link in Richmond
=Technological Stuffs=
*VPN in kernel space: https://github.com/wlanslovenija/tunneldigger
=Misc Notes=
*Newer Ubiquiti firmware
*CJDNS - https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
*VPN tunnels for directing mesh traffic
*Look up legal liability w/ regards to traffic crossing "our" VPN
*One VPN connection is enough for a largeish network
*"Please choose the legal regime for your traffic"
*cooperation between networks (sharing VPNs, group buys, ...)
*Become a reseller, or make our own hardware
=OTI network (Commotion)=
* Redhood Brooklyn + Detroit
* useful in New York - Sandy
* Tidepools http://tidepools.co/
* now concentrating in Detroit
* small mesh networks, 8-9 nodes
* Open??? networks (GSM)
* inflatable towers for GSM - crazy stuff http://openbts.org/
=Action Items=
*TOR
=Post-Meeting Discussion Groups=
*wlan-slovenia & VPN etc;
---------
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
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"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
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Hi all!
It would be great to have an idea of who's coming tonight, so we can craft
the agenda accordingly. Here's a link to our Riseup
etherpad<https://pad.riseup.net/p/510penmeeting>,
so please add to it things you would like to discuss tonight!
I will giving a report-back about OTI's Commotion Wireless initiative and
updating us all on the current crowdfunding campaign. Take a minute to
re-share with your friends, families, social networks etc:
https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network
Looking forward to seeing y'all again tonight,
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
Hiya,
I'm heading out to NY for a couple of weeks; are there any questions
on technical topics about how the hardware / wifi stuff works under
the hood?
I'm happy to do up a mini-talk for this stuff if you'd like.
Thanks!
-adrian
Hi!
One of topics we discussed at Thursday's meeting was also the
establishment of non-profit organization. In Slovenia we are also
thinking about that but we discussed also the issues which arise on
meetings because not all members attend the meetings and then quorum is
hard to achieve. This is especially problematic for communities build
around virtual communities. But still, we want as horizontally organized
organization as possible. So I prepared what voting schema which builds
around the idea of proxy voting, where you can delegate to one or more
people your vote in the case that you don't vote. The idea is that
organization specifies that voting is done in such a way.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zblrsqaazkbyytw/Voting%202.pdf
My next step is to develop a simple app to be used inside the
organization. If you are interested, we might do it together.
(There are some similar ideas tested around the world, for example in
Pirate parties in Europe. But I haven't find their systems to have all
the properties I want.)
Mitar
