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propaganda - flyer Build Your Own Internet (BYOI) workshop 1 Jul 2017

by Jorrit Poelen

Hey y'all - Thanks to Sierk, we have a brand new flyer for Build Your Own Internet (BYOI)workshop on 1 Jul 2017 - https://github.com/sudomesh/propaganda/raw/master/byoi-2017-07-01.pdf ( 2 per page) https://github.com/sudomesh/propaganda/raw/master/byoi-2017-07-01-2x3.p df (2x3 per page) and the plain text can be found here: https://github.com/sudomesh/propaganda/blob/master/byoi_flyer.txt Please look at it, propose changes, print, remix, distribute, put up at your local bus stop, coffeeshop, library or let your cat eat it. Just printed ~60 little flyers (2x3's) and 20 bigger ones for tomorrow's temescal fair. -jorrit PS Hoping to get motivated to setup the "social" invites also (youtwitface + eventbrite/meetup/action network). Please holler if you'd like to help with this.

7 years, 3 months

Re: [Mesh] [omni-discuss] Omni at Temescal Street Fair this Sunday?

by Jenny Ryan

Adding the mesh list, as this would be a great opportunity for neighborhood outreach, and we could set up some of the hardware and promote our next BYOI (build your own internet) workshop on July 1st. Unfortunately, Marc and I can't help to coordinate as we're out of town until the 27th, but I believe Grant said he'd be down, and maybe others would be interested? I like the 'take stuff apart' idea, Patrik :) Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Ken Litchfield <litchfield.ken(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> SUDO never said one way or the other but it seemed like they were >> probably not going to participate or...... >> > > One of the ideas suggested at one of the Sudo meetings last week was to > just have a table full of ewaste gear, screw drivers, pliers and hot glue, > for kids to take stuff apart and put it back together again. That always > used to be a very popular activity at Maker Faire. (They stopped doing that > a few years ago - possibly out of liability concerns: sharp edges, lead > solders, you name it...) > > Patrik > > > > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:29 PM, joseph liesner <blue393(a)lmi.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote: >>> >>> Was Sudo or other groups at Omni planning to have a table at the Temescal >>> Street Fair this Sunday <http://temescalstreetfair.org/>? This is a >>> great opportunity to reach out to our immediate neighborhood in a very >>> visible fashion. >>> >>> CCL will be there with at least a table or two, and it sounds like BAAM >>> may have up to five mushroomy tables as well. >>> >>> We were offered free space to exhibit at the Fair, but I am not sure >>> exactly where our tables will be - somewhere at the intersection of 48th >>> and Telegraph - or how much total space we will have available. I believe >>> Ken Litchfield has been our main contact person for those kinds of >>> logistics. >>> >>> Patrik >>> _______________________________________________ >>> discuss mailing list >>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> discuss mailing list >>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >

7 years, 3 months

blog post invited for Internet Society web site

by Eve Edelson

The post about the Wired inquiry reminds me: The SF Bay chapter of the Internet Society has a web site -- sfbayisoc.org -- and guest blog posts are invited. Would someone like to write a piece about the project? I'm sure one of the longer-term members/founders of sudoroom would do a better, more succinct job than me. it would be a way of getting word out to our members. If anyone's interested, let me know.

7 years, 4 months

Re: [Mesh] Fwd: [sudo-info] Press inquiry from WIRED re: sudomesh

by Marc Juul

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7 years, 4 months

Free-software concerns with Europe's radio directive

by Marc Juul

https://lwn.net/Articles/722197/

7 years, 4 months

Meeting Minutes - 2 May 2017

by Jenny Ryan

Recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/02_May_2017 *people's open network hacknight - 02 May 2017* = intros = * jehan: I'm the guy who brings the five-pack. I've been working on the email server and sorta made some progress with some help from marc. running for @peoplesopen.network. ** also researching ipv4/ipv6 for fun *** marc: going down rabbit holes... both email & ipv6 are headaches * daniel: what about spam filters etc? ** jehan: using mail-in-a-box that has a bunch of spam filter stuff * grant: working on the firmware, kinda done. need to do more testing on the extender node firmware. also messing around with the esp286's a bunch. programming in C and learning a lot * scott: no updates * bullitt: playing with ssb (secure scuttlebutt) on raspis and such. not working for me. last weekend got on a roof and helped with installing a physical node. * jenny: there was $400 in our paypal account that paypal was gonna steal due to inactivity but saved it. ~$169 for officers and directors insurance * lesley: i am lesley and this past week helped install a roofnode. substack helped me get a patchwork pub server running on the sudo room sever (the one hosted in sudo room and accessible from the internet) * eve: only useful thing i've done this week is get an adapter so i can help daniel with ?. playing with arduino's. wanna make it flash pretty lights * jeff: also trying to set up a patchwork pi thing. interested in roof mounting * jonas: i'm not sure what you do. i have interest in mesh networking and have been using esp8266 for two years. a year ago i wrote a lisp interpreter for it. i really think mesh networking would be interested. i want to use the esp to build a computer keyboard from scratch using wood keys and microswitches. encoding is done by diodes. trying to build a circuit board. i want to build a wifi home computer from an ESP. * daniel: i'm helping with little things here and there. tonight I'm planning to continue working on the equipment we got donated last week which is to update the wireless controller and update all the APs via the controller. I was mentioning to jenny earlier today that with this donation we have the opportunity to install APs all over the building (we have 28). ** jehan: think it's a great idea, no problem w/ proprietary software they're just APs * juul: worked on DisasterRadio a bit this week. LoRa radios connected to esp8266. can't use two serial ports simultaneously. made a telnet console and implemented a web console. now you can console in and as soon as you open the telnet or web console it talks to the chip. dhcp working, dns for the most part. also a web server serving up a web app. so the plumbing is working! now just to deploy a small chat and/or map app. ** jehan: doesn't it have a super long range? *** juul: urban range around 3 miles. low bandwidth, very low power. 900 mhz, small packet size. Can use it for mapping out resources in a disaster scenario. ** jonas: ** markus: part of omni welcoming group. attending hardware hacknight. * Marc: $900-1500/month for gigabit connection from LMI, can install hardware on the roof ** jehan: lot of money off the bat. network not in a very advanced state, can get more practice building out network around the omni ** lesley: cumulatively that's $12-18K/yr, what about instead investing in a server that would host some of the most commonly visited sites on the network *** marc: wouldn't cost any money, we have stacks of unused servers ** jehan: more you buy the less you pay, economically logical * main link would be gigabit, spread it out at like 300mbps connections. can spread it out enough that we can get enough people to donate monthly. there'd be a lag, maybe 6 months, where we'd be paying out of pocket ** jeff: how many people to make it economical? like 20 people? ** jehan: lots of interest but not that much geographical ** promising leads other than LMI: BART and Laney College = agenda = == entity structure == * straw poll +1s for OOC 501c3: Eve, Lesley, Grant, Jorrit * reservations: juul * jenny will ask Jesse this week and report back at next meeting = breakout groups = * patchwork: lesley/bullitt/jenny/jefdaj * gate: daniel/eve * debug front door computer: lesley/jenny/jake * ESP boards and related: juul/jonas/grant/scott = action items = * ping spaghettinight mailing list [jenny] * contact IT person at Peralta Colleges re: Laney node - Daniel will investigate * get a panorama from LMI - ?? * email Jesse re: taking over OOC or submitting a 1023EZ app [jenny] * send out login instruction for email server [jehan] = misc link dump = * Mapping businesses by neighborhood to reach out to: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oAehFc60w-hS4rhk0ZZhqb_IDqNsb8TopPo… -- Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

7 years, 5 months

Re: [Mesh] IPV6 to the exit node

by Jake

>> So let me get this straight- home nodes advertise their /26, which is how >> the network knows how to get return traffic back to any given client? >> >> Wouldn't giving clients ipv6 addresses result in the problems with many of >> the ipv4 only protocols that were mentioned at the start of the thread? >> >> > Yes if we give them only IPv6 addresses but we want them to have both. but if the mesh relied on IPV6 for everything, then couldn't the home nodes do IPV4 masquerading to IPV6 and they wouldn't need their own /26 because you could have identical IPV4 addresses on different home nodes that way? meaning, the IPV4 address given by DHCP by a home node is only for that node to talk to that client, and everything goes out over IPV6 from node to node and to the exit node (where it does reverse masquerading to the internet for IPV4 traffic) does this make sense? i know it would be a lot of work but maybe it's a good path forward.. and it simplifies some things, for example no more need to coordinate 100./26 IPV4 subnets between home nodes... you could use the home node's MAC address for its IPV6 subnet. -jake

7 years, 5 months

The IRREGULARS and "The Book of broken promises"

by Marc Juul

This popped up on my radar: http://irregulators.org/ "The IRREGULATORS is an independent consortium of retired and semi-retired telecom experts, analysts, policy wonks, forensic auditors, and lawyers who are former senior staffers from the FCC, state advocate and Attorneys General Office experts and lawyers, as well as former telco consultants. Members of the group have been working together, in different configurations, since 1999." They're giving away a book that claims to contradict a fake alternate history being promulgated by the FCC *:*http://irregulators.org/bookbrokenpromises/ -- marc/juul

7 years, 5 months

Fwd: [omni-discuss] Another House Clean-Out/Omni Beautification

by danarauz＠gmail.com

Hello folks, I meant to bring it up during our tonight's meeting, but because I am not sure that I can make it I may as well forward the email to our list. Thanks! D ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Marcus Zamani* <lifenowreborn(a)gmail.com> Date: Monday, May 1, 2017 Subject: [omni-discuss] Another House Clean-Out/Omni Beautification To: discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org, commons <commons(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org Omni - As a member of the Welcoming WG and lover of clean, beautiful, organized spaces I am organizing another Omni Sale/Giveaway. This time I am going to market the day as a “Pay What You Can Sale”. My intent is to get as much stuff out by giving it away and people can pay whatever they can in a donation jar on their way out. I’m thinking of having it 3 - 4 weeks from now. That said, it is imperative if you have stuff in Omni common areas that you pick it up WITHIN the next THREE WEEKS, otherwise you are agreeing to donate the item(s) to Omni. If your collective has stuff in common areas and wants to keep it but you can’t move it to its final home before the sale, you must clearly label it. All personal items must be removed, there is no personal storage at the Omni. DO NOT bring stuff in for this sale!!! The last giveaway back in August was a great success and effectively cleaned-out the basement. I am shooting to see the basement emptied out again and ready for a tenant. Contact me if you have any questions or want to help, Marcus -- Daniel Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> WhatsApp: 415.336.9143 <https://www.whatsapp.com/download/> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

7 years, 5 months

Email server setup- can anyone help?

by Jehan Tremback

I had thought that it might be more professional if we were able to email people from @peoplesopen.net addresses instead of just using our personal addresses. The current peoplesopen.net email setup is that there are forwarding rules (you can receive mail on a @peoplesopen.net address), but you can't send it. To be able to send emails, we need an email server. I've set up mailinabox on a ubuntu server, it's a pretty good combo of dovecot, a webmail interface, some spam stuff, and an admin panel with status checks. It will even automatically get letsencrypt certificates. However, setting up the DNS has proven to be very hard for me to get right. I've set up DNS for email and websites before, but never on such a complex setup with so many domains and things that need to keep working. I've tried a bunch of stuff, but either webmail doesn't work, forwarding doesn't work, or all emails from the server end up in the spam folder. Marc has been helping me, since he has control of the DNS, but I don't want to bother him too much if it's not a priority for him. I'm wondering if anyone who is experienced with email and/or DNS wants to hack on this email server with me, maybe Tuesday before or during the meeting. If nobody is interested, I'll probably drop it for now and we can keep using personal email addresses. -Jehan

7 years, 5 months

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