I think the question is whether udp broadcast is supported by the mesh firmware or by openwrt by default so that users of patchwork can identify and address one another on the people's open net.
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From: "Marc Juul" <juul(a)labitat.dk>
To: "Lesley Bell" <lbx2045(a)gmail.com>
Cc: "mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [Mesh] How would patchwork work with mesh?
Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2017 5:26 AM
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Lesley Bell <lbx2045(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Many of you are familiar with *patchwork
> <https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork>,* Dominic Tarr's distributed
> messaging app. We have been talking about different apps that could run
> directly over the mesh, and I believe patchwork can do so as it is now--if
> you are on the same local network as another user, you can talk to them
> even if you are not connected to an external ISP, and you can see who is on
> the same network as you are.
>
> I have asked a few people, and can't get a certain answer to the question
> of, can messages be passed with patchwork over the whole mesh, or only
> those connected to a particular node? Patchwork uses encrypted message
> passing over TCP/IP, so I think it should work that way...can anyone on
> here confirm/deny/elaborate?
>
I'm not sure I understand the question. The mesh is just like the internet
except we don't have world-routable IPs. Every node is behind NAT (until we
get an IPv6 allocation). Are you talking about SSB nodes or mesh nodes? Are
you asking a question about the mesh or about how SSB operates? or about
how SSB operates on the mesh and how that's different from how it operates
on the normal internet?
--
marc/juul
Hi all,
Many of you are familiar with *patchwork
<https://github.com/ssbc/patchwork>,* Dominic Tarr's distributed messaging
app. We have been talking about different apps that could run directly over
the mesh, and I believe patchwork can do so as it is now--if you are on the
same local network as another user, you can talk to them even if you are
not connected to an external ISP, and you can see who is on the same
network as you are.
I have asked a few people, and can't get a certain answer to the question
of, can messages be passed with patchwork over the whole mesh, or only
those connected to a particular node? Patchwork uses encrypted message
passing over TCP/IP, so I think it should work that way...can anyone on
here confirm/deny/elaborate?
Thanks,
L
Hey guys my friend that I hooked up with a node at 42nd street is an expert
in online advertising and runs a pro-bono side-gig providing free
advertising services to non-profits
He says we can get $10,000 a month in free adwords advertising from google.
Here's their website: http://www.adzee.org/
We could target the ads to just zip code around the omni (94609).
We could develop messages and landing pages to accomplish different goals:
- Get more people to come to our "build your own internet" workshops
- Get more people to host mesh nodes
- Encourage people to donate money
- Encourage people to join the project as a volunteer
It could help build awareness of our project and get more people on the
network.
Should we do this?
Here they are! Also @ https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/4_April_2017 <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/4_April_2017>
People's Open Network
4 April 2017to
= intros =
andrew, juul, jorrit, ian?
josh: never played with mesh networks but curious
eve, daniel, jeff, lesley
= updates =
Mike, carpenter friend of Daniel, confirmed today that will be helping build the gate at the server area.
== NSF Grant (competition?) ==+
* Panel in Oakland: POSTPONED until unknown date in the summer.
* juul let them know we're willing to help out in various ways
* https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/03/07/2-million-prize-building-accessibl… <https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/03/07/2-million-prize-building-accessibl…>
== RESIST grant: Jenny ==
Due this Friday
== Dashboard/firmware update ==
jehan: The dashboard has reached a good stopping point, and grant knows how to deploy it. I'll be back at sudo this Sunday to do a final QA on it to make sure it is ok. cool, am looking into where/when to insert the new repo in the firmware build, makefiles based off wlan slovenia
== battlemesh ==
Jehan: I want to look into bringing some of our many n600's to battle mesh and helping them set up their testbed. Also, what about taking another stab at getting some good confirmed connectivity at some of the houses around the omni?
== NPR interview update? ==
He's still working on it. Monday he requested I connect him to Mitar, which I did.
== New installation updates? ==
Jake took a long pre-crimped ethernet cable from the shelf and will fix his new node (had loose connection).
== Disaster Radio update ==
Started working on an ESP8266-based version using NodeMCU here: https://github.com/sudomesh/disaster-radio-nodemcu <https://github.com/sudomesh/disaster-radio-nodemcu>
grant interested in helping out, building modules?
We have a working system and development framework that so far does: wifi, dhcp server, dns server and webserver serving up a node.js app
juul will be adding a new access point to the people's open net home node firmware
== Monitoring / map software update ==
* No code progress since last week.
* Had discussion on Sunday about node mapping:
: For now we should simply have a "register your node" feature on the map where you can add your email, phone and node location (all optional)
: In the future we might want better
* Need to deploy to server.
* Andrew interested in working on it?
== inventory security: gate project update ==
daniel has a carpenter friend he's gonna ask to help out
== Annual meeting: April 18, 7:30 ==
juul will ask if jenny wants to send invite
Need to send email
== Discussion of working groups / nominations of facilitators ==
lesley: everyone is contributing to multiple things overlapping with the proposed subgroups, why do we need this?
jorrit says he is talking a lot... is interested in taking lead for on-boarding possible contributors
eve: what's the branding of people's open
lesley: decentralized, without leaders, without surviellance, be clearer on messaging
grant: scalable collectivisation
create node mounting group, jeff volunteered his house for a node mounting demo, Sunday 1pm, BRING YO BIKE HELMETS
we don't have a tall ladder, or van?
daniel: we should make sure we do our installations right. so they look nice.
Hey current and future members of the board:
Can we move the annual board of directors meeting from Tuesday April 18th
to Monday April 17th? I've got tickets to the radiohead concert that
tuesday and I'd be super sad to miss it. I promise to bring cookies if we
move it to monday!
-Will
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> 1. Annual Sudo Mesh Board Meeting: April 18, 7:30pm (Jenny Ryan)
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> From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
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> Agenda:
> * Nominate & consense on new board
> * Nominate & consense on officers
> * Overview of basic gov filings and related
> * Decide on future org structure (eg; submit 501c3 app?)
> * Consense on updated bylaws [click here
> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Bylaws> to add comments to current
> version]
> * File annual mtg minutes
>
> Board:
> * Vote to remove: Jeremy, ChrisJ, MaxB, Pete
> <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth>, Arlo, Matt unless any of
> them
> speak up here wanting to stay on the board (cap is 11 directors)
>
> Nominations for Sudo Mesh's 2017 Board of Directors:
> * Marc (current Treasurer)
> * Jenny (current President)
> * Jake (current Director)
> * Will M (accepted nomination)
> * Andy D (accepted nomination)
> * Daniel
> * Lesley
> * Jorrit
> * Jehan
> * Eve
> * Grant
>
> If you wish to be decline your nomination, be removed from the board, or
> you would like to be on the board and aren't on the list of nominees,
> please reply to this thread. Also reply here if you'd like to be an officer
> (President / Secretary / Treasurer at minimum; we can also elect
> additionally a Chair and any number of Vice Presidents) or want to add
> anything else to the agenda.
>
> If you can't make it in person, remote attendance on the pad (/sudomesh/)
> is also fine.
>
> ~!~
> Jenny
>
> Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California!
> https://omnicommons.org/donate
>
> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> -Laurie Anderson
>
> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
> -Hannah Arendt
>
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> -Stéphane Mallarmé
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>
Hey everybody,
I just met some friendly folks from Local Clean Energy (one of the
non-profits pushing for Community Choice Energy in Alameda County) at the
Oakland EarthEXPO. They are having an event tonight at Oakstop in downtown.
It's not directly related to the mesh, but it might be a good chance to
make some connections with like-minded people (the person I talked to was a
supporter of peoplesopen and had been to a few mesh meetings).
Check out the link, I plan on going if anybody wants to join.
http://www.localcleanenergy.org/node/576
-gc
YOU should present at the next sudo room 5 minutes of fame!
It is in one week (April 5th at 7 pm).
It doesn't take much to show and tell what you've been working on /
learning for five minutes. You don't even need slides! Just bring yourself
and talk.
Either reply to me with your presentation title or edit the wiki:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/5MoF
--
marc/juul
