[Mesh] Minutes Re: PON Meeting Agenda 9 Oct 2018

Below you'll find the SudoMesh meeting minutes from Tues, 9 October 2018. The notes are also viewable online: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/09_October_2018 (https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/09_October_2018) ------ '''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm''' * https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy === Agenda === * Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins) * Check in on previous action items (5 mins) * Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins) * Next Sunday (5 mins) * Action Items (5 mins) * Breakout Groups === Introductions === Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements * Icebreaker question: What are you optimistic about? * Sethasauras - they - optimistic about your house staying around for a long time * Null - him/he - I'm optimistic about free internet * Benny - he/him - this publication i get monthly called Smudge. there's an interview w/ a 7-year old about politics First question/answer is, "What is politics?" -> "i dunno" * Moritz - visitting from Berlin - he/him - we can do really huge mesh networks! in the future * nanomonkey/Scott - he/him - oceanfront property ** grant - does anyone know the average elevation of Oakland? It's 42. * Lesley - no preferred pronouns - ive been convincing myself and am cautiously optimistic about the upcoming elections. if young people turn out to vote there might be some big changes--backlash! * Grant - he/they/whatever - I am optimistic about the end of the world. I'm kind of excited about the post-apocalypse. ** jenny - riffing off that, end of world will help popularize solar punk! We have 12 year catastrophe deadlline... maybe a subculture movement that captures the youth--captain planet meets cyberpunk. * Jenny - she/her - am otherwise not very optimistic * remote-mai - she/they - optimistic that I will pass this damn networking midterm test >_< . Also that some form of biological/genetic intelligence will prevail, even if humans don't end up surviving past climate change + its effects ** grant - the rats will inherit the earth ** remote-mai: maybe the rats can learn a thing or two about how *not* to build civilizations ** Also! I may be able to meet up with the Community Networks group meeting at the IGF next month if I go there for a gig. Would be sad to miss BYOI and the Libre Router hackathon tho. === Meeting Roles === * Facilitator/s: Benny * Stacktaker: Lesley * Notetaker/s: Benny, Jenny, all of us!! ** URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes == Check in on previous action items == Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below: * find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?) ** scott doesn't mind the heights ** grant is not opposed to it and has work-related insurance ** drone mount? * see if we got a neighborly app receipt and put in google drive (benny) ** we didn't * schedule psychz deprecation session with juul (benny) ** didn't happen ** jenny - currently in back + forth with psychz because of card problems ** GRANT: should prep a second exit node * buy omni antennas (grant) ** done https://trello.com/c/nblrd6F9/26-ubiquiti-amo-5g13-5ghz-airmax-dual-omni-13… ** suggested purchasing https://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=amo-5g13 *** suggest keeping 2 in stock at all times ** Scott and Robb went to Alco and got angle iron for roof mounts, did not get any conduit * e-mail paxio (juul) ** not done yet--see below. mai forwarding e-mail to juul * add ISOC proposal process to loomio discussion below (jenny) ** done https://www.loomio.org/d/t96DoNbJ/what-should-a-project-proposal-look-like-… ** also added comment about minimum proposal requirements * new loomio thread for defining project proposal template (benny) ** done https://www.loomio.org/d/t96DoNbJ/what-should-a-project-proposal-look-like- == Updates & Reportbacks == * remote-juul asks: Is there an email thread with Paxio folk that I'm not on? I haven't emailed them yet. I couldn't find the thread when searching yesterday but also my internet connection was crap so I might have missed it. Can someone forward it to me then I will email today. ** remote-mai: I have a thread with them — in which they stopped responding a few months ago when I followed up. I'll forward you that email (which includes Tim Pozar) and you can cc me on the new thread we start with them re: our LOS to them * remote-juul asks: Are we sure the AirFiber we mounted on our building is the international version? It probably should be. * benny: I don't think we are sure. I'll try to confirm. I hope it says somewhere in the UI? * juul: If the country is restricted to u.s. only then thats not the int version * benny: okay--there should be a country selection dropdown or something? * lesley: yep, it's locked onto US or ...I think the gui is a little different? I'm trying to look right now, assuming I'm connected to the correct ip. Nevermind, Grant just reminded me I can't connect with my machine without a cable. I guess the only way to connect is to climb up on the roof and plug in. * grant: we can get into to from the cage, IP/pw info should be in trello, will debug later (I remember being a dropdown for country) * lesley: Nope, it's the US version :/ === Bugs/Technical === Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-… * jenny - grant schooled the sudowrt firmware repo * benny + juul + grant debugged how to get meshing working with air os extender nodes * for more on private network and traffic priortization see these issues: ** https://github.com/sudomesh/sudowrt-firmware/issues/131 ** https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues/2 ** https://github.com/sudomesh/sudowrt-firmware/issues/107 Just found this https://imgur.com/B0jzM9h ???! === Node Mounts & Outreach === Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-… * grant - reed brothers node is now working! also setup the omni antenna atop the reed bros roof. 52 down, 15 up from omni connection. do we want to limit it? ** jenny - might be good to discuss in sudoroom ** scott - can you give priority to the private network traffic? ** grant - effective way to handle that would be for someone to get a better home router that can prioritize their traffic (as opposed to it being a peoples open network issue). we can't prioritize someones home internet traffic. ** scott - i thought that was the point of the private SSID, so we can prioritize that over the public SSID * grant: can't ping extender port from just anywhere - but if you plug it into public port - in this case, port 2, that gives you an ip address and then you can ping the extender node and get into its interface. === Communications & Events === Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-… // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl… * benny - working with jorrit on tcp/ip/udp postcards ** jenny - yar did a cool workshop in sudoroom like that * jenny - if you used the non profit dev summit code let me know! * jenny - nico from librerouter is being sponsored to come to the non profit dev summit and wants to work on libre router stuff on the 17th! * jenny - internet governance summit in paris! mai may already be there. some funding available if we want to send someone. * jenny - someone from the netherlands pinged the rocketchat today about starting a peoples open network in florida! * null - i met someone who has good contacts who seemed interested in peoples open! he might spread the word * seth sent out newsletter! woo! jenny + grant showed him how to use mailchimp ** jenny - highest click rate of any newsletter yet! (except 1) === Internal Logistics / Finance === Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter… * jenny - just ordered the omnis mentioned earlier this meeting. * jenny- sierk submitted request for another digital ocean droplet to separate dev and prod envs * jenny - we have a home depot gift card * jenny - we really need an insurance policy -- to do that we need to update our business plan to show that we have the money to pay for an insurance policy ** moritz - you need an insurance policy? we don't need one at freifunk. *** moritz: people just connect, we receive info that this or that device is linked to some other device, and then we map it but we assume no liability for those connections. **** used to be much more complicated - self-assigned IP addresses, wiki account, etc; - now is much more simple that's how a lot of places got connected - even 2000 nodes in an area or an entirely interconnected downtown - they just popped up - no liability, but it works! public internet in the middle of town. lots of people involved in municipal governance == Next Sunday == === Node Mount === We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays * Next Sunday's mount: maybe sailing club? may === Office Hours === We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours * Next Sunday's volunteer: maybe seth, maybe grant (probably) * Notes from this past Sunday's session: == Action Items == * come up with list of psychz node ips (grant + benny) * follow up about psychz billing (jenny) * e-mail Jonah about tower rehab status (jenny, cc lesley, grant & benny) * print node port stickers (jnny) * e-mail yar about tcp activities (benny) * connect berkeley marina - tony (smurfir(a)gmail.com) - jenny -> null / grant / == Breakout Groups == At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics. * == Last Meeting Notes == * https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/2_October_2018 == End of Meeting == * please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_MM_YYYY * then please erase the contents of this pad * then please cut & paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Temp… * previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes October 9, 2018 12:26 PM, mai(a)peoplesopen.net (mailto:mai@peoplesopen.net) wrote: Hey there, This is a reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed at the People's Open Network meeting today, Tues 9 October 2018, 7:30 - 9:00 PM PT. 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