10 Feb
2023
10 Feb
'23
12:53 p.m.
I have scheduled an installation appointment for Tuesday February 14th at 2PM,
and I'll be at the building to facilitate this process.
Since I only heard back from one person about my proposal, and our present ISP
charges us like $155/mo and I am confident that Monkeybrains will charge us
less for better service (and even more aligned politics than LMI/AT&T) I
expect that unless Monkeybrains is unable to connect us (it's all wireless
point-to-point links) we will be switching over to them after the install.
If you're interested in seeing how this works, let me know or just show up!
-jake
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, Jake via events wrote:
I talked with Monkeybrains and apparently we can get
internet from them! It
will be much better than what we have now, and our politics and goals are
very aligned.
from their website:
https://www.monkeybrains.net/
"Monkeybrains is a San Francisco based ISP founded by Rudy Rucker and Alex
Menendez in 1998. With their crew of like-minded renegades, these two are
bringing affordable, hassle-free, month-to-month internet service to the
residents and businesses of San Francisco. Monkeybrains customers appreciate
our incredible speed-to-cost ratio and our ability to install quickly, with
minimal wait time from lead to install.
In the late 90's Monkeybrains started out as a dial-up ISP running out of a
warehouse in San Francisco. We ran the whole thing with a few desktop
computers connected to a bunch of modems. In the early 2000s we moved
operations to the datacenter and began offering web hosting and collocation
services. In 2009 Monkeybrains dramatically expanded the ISP by offering
wireless Internet access. We have come a long way since those dial-up days!
Monkeybrains now operates a hybrid network of fiber optic and high capacity
wireless links servicing over 20,000 locations with over 100 new locations
coming online every week. With every installation, we push the limits of
available technology and over-deliver bandwidth. We took this approach during
a recent campaign where Monkeybrains delivered 300Mbps+ to approved residents
of San Francisco using equipment only previously seen on commercial
buildings.
Our focus within San Francisco has enabled us to have a personal relationship
with the individuals, businesses and communities we serve. In addition to our
personal approach to service and support, Monkeybrains takes a progressive
stance on Net Neutrality and we believe the Internet should be secure,
unbiased and available to all! View our customer map to see if we are
available in your area."
Does anyone know who we have internet service with now, how much we pay, and
whether there's a penalty for cancelling after we get service with
Monkeybrains?
Does anyone have questions or objections to Omni switching over?
-jake
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10 Feb
10 Feb
2:40 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: [omni-events] changing our internet to Monkeybrains
Hi all,
It seems important to know the costs before moving forward.
Also, I believe there were a few proposals on the table from my earlier
thread about creating a point to point link?
One was to just have one of the neighbors get sonic/lmi fiber and shoot to
them.
The other was to share internet with the long haul, just shoot it down
shattuck, which would greatly support that struggling space that has the
gigabit LMI service but it's a strain on the budget for us (LH).
Also, I remember being told that LMI is much preferred to Sonic due to its
policies around resharing internet. I would want to know what Monkeybrains
policy is, it feels contingent to ensure all decisions made don't impact
the Mesh or other projects.
I'd like to suggest investigating these options before moving forward. I
would be interested in being in any conversations, installs, etc.
warmly,
ajay
13 Feb
13 Feb
8:03 a.m.
New subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: [omni-events] changing our internet to Monkeybrains
From a mounted mast, we can't hit anything north of the 24/580 bridge iirc
LMI is preferred due to being solar-powered. They have the same
reseller/sharing terms as Sonic.
Monkeybrains would be cool if we can get it :) Omni is unfortunately
surrounded by highways and condos, hence not being the hub of WiFi we'd
love it to be...
On 2/10/23 14:40, Ajay Tallam wrote:
Hi all,
It seems important to know the costs before moving forward.
Also, I believe there were a few proposals on the table from my
earlier thread about creating a point to point link?
One was to just have one of the neighbors get sonic/lmi fiber and
shoot to them.
The other was to share internet with the long haul, just shoot it down
shattuck, which would greatly support that struggling space that has
the gigabit LMI service but it's a strain on the budget for us (LH).
Also, I remember being told that LMI is much preferred to Sonic due to
its policies around resharing internet. I would want to know what
Monkeybrains policy is, it feels contingent to ensure all decisions
made don't impact the Mesh or other projects.
I'd like to suggest investigating these options before moving
forward. I would be interested in being in any conversations,
installs, etc.
warmly,
ajay
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2:47 p.m.
New subject: [sudo-discuss] Re: [omni-events] changing our internet to Monkeybrains
Hi Ajay,
Monkeybrains will be less than half the price of what we're paying now,
we're getting a special deal. Also we can expect a gigabit connection,
although we won't know for sure until installation tomorrow.
You're right that we were in talks with the neighbors about getting a
point-to-point and sharing a fiber connection to EBDCR (I was emailing with
them directly) but fortunately we didn't move forward with that, because
this is much better. I just didn't realize until last week that
Monkeybrains had expanded their coverage zone to include Omni Commons.
About Long Haul, there's no way we could beam a signal a mile up Shattuck
just because of simple physics, but of course we're aligned politically.
Thankfully, so is Monkeybrains which would likely provide them with great
service if their building is in their coverage zone. Also I understand
that Long Haul is in the process of having to find another place while
their land trust renovates the property (after which they're invited back)
but I don't know the details.
As for Monkeybrain's policy around resharing, you're welcome to look into
it but it's at least as liberal as LMI, probably better in a lot of ways.
Sorry the conversation hasn't been more public, but I have reported to the
list as much as I could and you're invited to come to the installation
tomorrow (tuesday) at 2PM on the roof of omni.
-jake
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 2:41 PM Ajay Tallam via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems important to know the costs before moving forward.
Also, I believe there were a few proposals on the table from my earlier
thread about creating a point to point link?
One was to just have one of the neighbors get sonic/lmi fiber and shoot to
them.
The other was to share internet with the long haul, just shoot it down
shattuck, which would greatly support that struggling space that has the
gigabit LMI service but it's a strain on the budget for us (LH).
Also, I remember being told that LMI is much preferred to Sonic due to its
policies around resharing internet. I would want to know what Monkeybrains
policy is, it feels contingent to ensure all decisions made don't impact
the Mesh or other projects.
I'd like to suggest investigating these options before moving forward. I
would be interested in being in any conversations, installs, etc.
warmly,
ajay
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