I forwarded to David Keenan who will forward to the landlord for permission. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:01 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser(a)riseup.net> wrote: _______________________________________________ mesh mailing list mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh

thx! we made these changes and one other that david caught re: the cardinal direction of the placement. networked world, april On 12/10/14 2:26 AM, Jenny Ryan wrote: THANK YOU APRIL! AND MARC!! <3333 So excited for this node! BTW 'pole' is misspelled and I think 'Dne dish' is supposed to be 'One dish' :) -your fastidious copyeditor Jenny Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Marc Juul &lt;juul(a)labitat.dk&gt; wrote:

Thanks a million for creating an image and shipping out the proposal :] That's great. And these plans are super interesting. Wonder what their timelines look like. -a On 12/11/14 12:09 PM, David Keenan wrote: I passed along the rewritten proposal to John (and mocked up the new image myself, since it was missing from the re-write, I hope that is ok). I would like to pass something along to all y'all (which I just received today), which is the new condo they're about to build atop of where Rise Above's old shop was on 4700 Telegraph. I don't know the height of the current building (that they will tear down) is, but you may want to make sure we still have line-of-sight to the hills once the new building is up. IE, I'm thinking this might affect the ultimate height of the mounting pole. 4700 Telegraph planned development: https://nautilusgrp.egnyte.com/dl/KMH2NkWwcJ And here is the one that is going to go in across the street from us - 4801 Shattuck: https://nautilusgrp.egnyte.com/dl/eDYiCbqycz Best, David On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, April Glaser &lt;april.glaser(a)riseup.net&gt; wrote:

Ok, David. This is v cool. Thank you, again. Hey mesh folks, In our next mesh meeting, let's try to rough sketch a community outreach plan. I feel no hesitation about contacting developers of condos to ask about eventually mounting a roof node. I've seen developers be down, and likewise seen them reject, but it's always best to start the conversation early, so they can either be stakeholders or have time to come around :) Aerial maps rule. Talk soon, April On 12/11/14 8:42 PM, David Keenan wrote: Hey guys, 1. If anyone is interested, I upped what I guesstimate to be the rough boundaries/range of our antenna's expected line-of-sight towards the East, sketched in google earth - the KMZ file and .png images can be found here: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByjR12L1MEjCOXNkUm1KOWZXNWc&usp… Overview: [image: Inline image 1] Closeup: [image: Inline image 2] The northern boundary line is red, a current constraint imposed by the condo caty-corner from us along the north side of 48th. The southern boundary line is green, and denotes the future constraint imposed by the projected height of the 4700 Telegraph development which will begin work in 12/2015, and be finished 6/2016. Currently, there is no big building there at 4700, so there currently is no block to line of sight there, but I wanted to map it to better inform the installation location of the antenna along the easternmost disco wall room, in case that helps. point A is the wall along which we can mount; point B is the expected NE corner of 4700 Telegraph; point C is the SE corner of the existing condo caty-corner from us. Btw, the lines start from different points on the roof wall of our building, only to show the relative advantages in positioning on the more northerly vs the southerly end of said wall. 2. With this in mind, does anyone know what direction East the antenna will be pointed? Does anyone have a physical address for the endpoint? I figured line of sight was already confirmed but given this new development I thought this might help. Btw, 4700 Telegraph will roughly double in height as compared to the old one. It will be 58'6" at its highest point. Also in the share is the data from the Nautilus Group - Best, David On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, April Glaser &lt;april.glaser(a)riseup.net&gt; wrote:

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:09 PM, David Keenan &lt;dkeenan44(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Could you send us the rewritten proposal so we know what you sent to John? -- marc/juul