28 Nov
2013
28 Nov
'13
10:36 a.m.
Reviving the conversation about Sudo Square and trying to coordinate something for next
week's First Friday.
On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
i am just tickled by the idea of birdhoused sudo wifi
tent self square named networks
Apr 11, 2013 05:57:45 PM, eddan(a)clear.net wrote:
something like that. ;
http://thepyre.org
http://thevirtualcampfire.org
http://technomadic.tumblr.com
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"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning
without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is
to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
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> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM, J.C.
r33lmm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This all sounds interesting and stuff, it would be helpful if you gave a quick context as
to why I would care about this and how it relates to sudo'ism.
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM, mark burdett mfburdett(a)gmail.com> wrote:
the actual name is Franklin Plaza and yes it has a OaklandWiki page- we batch-imported
all oakland parks :) ;http://oaklandwiki.org/Franklin_Plaza
by the way, if you look at old maps, there used to be Southern Pacific streetcars running
along Franklin St across Broadway onto 22nd street by the sudoroom entrance. from sudoroom
you could take an electric train (1200 volts DC!) all the way to SF ferry building (via
the SP mole which is now middle harbor shoreline park) in one direction and Alameda in the
other.
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM,
Eddan Katz eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
Hi all -
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As far as I can tell, it's an informal
agreement b/w Ike's & the Punchdown that people can eat Ike's sandwiches at
the tables, and Ike's doesn't complain about the tables being locked up until 4pm.
;
Can the Oakland wiki geeks point us to where we can verify information about this
parcel.
Once we confirm it's public, might be fun to put up an Occupy tent looking birdhouse
that brings open free mesh wireless to the Square. The network could be named SudoSquare
so that people outside this inside joke would care.
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On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Wait, sudo square is actually a public park--meaning it doesn't belong to the
building owner adjacent to the square that has set up their own private chairs they lock
at night, well pretty much most of the time?
// Matt
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Eddan Katz eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
Yeah, what Jenny is saying.And also in regards to
what is Sudo about it:
The naming of streets and landmarks and parks is accomplished either formally by
the state or the company willing to sponsor it.
I think the Sudo way of naming landmarks should
depend on what the community can collectively accomplish without confirmation by power or
with money. It is peer produced because it depends on voluntary community collaborative
participation of check-in in order to have legitimacy. Governments can't force Yelp to
list some landmark the same as Google, Yahoo!, and FacebookHome. And the companies
competitive interests prevent cooperation.
Which Franklin is it referring to? If it is
Benjamin, I'd guess he'd be all for it.
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On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Jenny Ryan
tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Mark: Thanks for the info! That sounds like a beautiful public transportation option. I
was wondering what happened to Oakland streetcars and it seems there was a recent plan and
push for them:http://www.oaklandstreetcarplan.com
JC: We are not a virtually community alone - sudo
room is a physical space located in an actual place, with history and neighbors and all
the intricacies that compose location-based culture.
I'm a huge fan of Oakland Wiki and think it's one of the most important projects
sudoers are working on right now. Attention to one's surroundings and the dynamics of
a place one is relatively new to reflects a sensibility of understanding and attunement
that is sadly neglected in this age of community alienation and displacement (how many of
us actually grew up in this town?).
Jenny
http://jennyryan.net
Also - apparently when the land where sudoroom
stands was first subdivided as "Wilcox Place" you could buy a lot for $900 gold
coin..
--mark B.
I wanted to ask a flash-mob like favor from folks
coming to Sudo Room this evening. Over the summer, several of us created the Sudo Square
page at Foursquare (https://foursquare.com/v/sudo-square/50074796e4b092cb5fe8c83d) and
Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sudo-Square/351059718301717) as part of a plan to
name the plaza at the intersection of Broadway, 19th, & Franklin. Can you please
check-in on your way in?
It's a lovely day and the Punchdown
(http://www.punchdownwine.com/) already put out the outdoor table seating. I'll be
hanging out there until the meeting and will remind Sudo folk I see.
Given the democratization of nomenclature
afforded by geo-located mobile computing, I thought it most appropriate to have some kind
of coordinated crowd in-checking initiative. There are some pictures, but it's a
placeholder so far. So far as we know (& the Oakland Wiki folks could correct us), the
square does not yet have a name.
So not just today - but anytime - when you're
passing by 22nd & Broadway and you're itching to check in on Facebook or
Foursquare, or Yelp, or however it is you go about telling the world instantaneously where
you are - please check in at Sudo Square - often and tell your friends about it too. I am
also now trying to compile a list of the existing sites & services use for geo-located
check-in fun - so let me know if you know of others.
> Perhaps during one of the upcoming Art Murmurs - we can have an official check-in
dedication ceremony - we can invite the mayor.