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1. BYOI Office Hours this Sunday, 1-3pm-ish (Seth Carolina)
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Hey folx
Build Your Own Internet Office Hours is this Sunday!
Unless there are any node mounts in the works I propose a
sudopad brainstormathon for the next BYOI Aug.5.....
I'll bring snaxx.
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** What are BYOI office hours?It serves two purposes:*
*1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled
Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting
or are not "in the know."*
*2. A friendly time for new people to get oriented to the project or just
ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service
provider.*
*We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice,
conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and
purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues.*
I just saw this - am on my way to something bcos I hadn’t seen anything
about Sunday in Signal as of this morning.
(Also I just somehow mistakenly left sudomesh-urgent, I think I need to be
Re-added unless this group was just for the museum trip)
Hey!
More Build Your Own Internet Office Hours* this Sunday per usual.
During the Tuesday meeting, it sounded like there were several leads on
places that are ready for a mount, so it's likely a group will go out to
install a node! Details TBD.
There's also an FAQ in the works (see https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/faq) --
maybe we'll have enough time to polish that off and make it live.
And lots of event planning to be a part of... 🐩
Hope to see you there!
--Benny
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** What are BYOI office hours?It serves two purposes:*
*1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled
Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting
or are not "in the know."*
*2. A friendly time for new people to get oriented to the project or just
ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service
provider.*
*We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice,
conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and
purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues.*
Hello--
The next Build Your Own Internet Office Hours* will be this Sunday from
1-3pm at SudoRoom.
Thanks to the hard work of many talented people, *we submitted our second
round Mozilla WINS Round II application!* *Woohoo!*
Part of that effort involved reviewing, cleaning out, and updating the
sudomesh.org wiki. Other folks have recently been involved with creating
process around our bug tracking and software goals.
And that is why the theme this Sunday is: *<< PROJECT ERGONOMICS >>*
But, as usual, anything goes :)
Come on by!
--Benny
p.s. I am not aware of any node mounts scheduled for this Sunday, though
several are in the works. Check the rocketchat for updates:
peoplesopen.net/chat.
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** What are BYOI office hours?It serves two purposes:*
*1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled
Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting
or are not "in the know."*
*2. A friendly time for new people to get oriented to the project or just
ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service
provider.*
*We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice,
conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and
purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues.*
Hi All,
The Program on Liberation Technologies at Stanford University (LT)
<http://cddrl.fsi.stanford.edu/libtech> has been going strong since circa
2006. Since then, LT has helped thousands design, use, and research
technologies that foster the public good.
Recently, the decision was made to spin off LT as an independent entity.
I'm one of the people tasked with doing so. Here are LT's major needs:
- Recruit people to develop a new website, logo, and graphics.
- Identify a legal jurisdiction with strong security and privacy laws
and regulations and a server provider with a stellar reputation at
protecting user security and privacy to host the site.
- Determine whether to maintain LT's mailing lists on Mailman
<https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> or to
transition them to a content management system (e.g., Discourse.org).
- Assess the best legal structure for LT (e.g., digital cooperative).
Any ideas? Thanks for your help and advice.
Best,
Yosem
P.S. I'm sending this email on behalf LT's co-founders and not Stanford
University.
Allo all!
So sorry to miss the meeting tonight :( I added a bunch of belated updates
in the notes below:
( as always, recorded for posterity at:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/26_June_2018 )
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Introductions
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF
Announcements
- Icebreaker question: favorite app
- mai - she/they - duckduckgo app - storquest said they talked to higher
ups and they can't give us roofspace for less than 2k/mo :-( :-( :-(
- sierk - guessing that tthe cost must have to do with granting
access to the rooftop. they probably calculate a risk about how much
work/hassle it would be... can we list them as--what's the opposite of a
community partner?
- ben - is that the only building that we can get a line of site from?
- mai - no, that's just the place paxio seemed most interested in. i
have a feeling they want us to establish some sort of infra up there. but
reed bros which is on telegraph has a line of site maybe and we have a
relationship them.
- someone - my brother in law used to work there for a long time
- jehan - i would suggest contacting the building that's going up,
tell them we have a gigabit from paxio. probably enough for that building
and us.
- bengo - lets keep movin along
- sierk- is it okay that we have a hop?
- seth - he/they - antenna pod open source podcast app. couple people
came in last sunday. can't remember their names. tried to flash a router
but didnt have a usb eth adapter. will have one next time.
- sierk - no favorite app. need to find something thats better than
kindle on my phone. once i do it will be my favorite. been working on
disaster radio. hope to have some cool disaster radio apps ready in a few
days. pulled 3 all-nighters. actually my favorite app is definitely camera!
- sven - nickname sven - no favorite app, but i am a programmer, so my
IDEs. just here to see if you need help.
- bengo - check http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted for issues that
need help
- sachi - stopped using a smart phone a while back. have happily not
gone back. maps.me is a good one though. handy if you don't have wifi in
a foreign country. interested in finding out what you're up to now. last
time i checked in was a couple years back.
- bengo - prefer they, but he is okay - favorite app is gitlab. really
good for continuous deployment.
- benny - he/they - favorite app is instagram but am not a connoiseur.
also mountain (the app game thing).
- jehan - he/him - favorite app... i go on twitter a lot. crash royale
is good too. card game with monsters. feels like strategy is involved.
- blake - gameboy advance emulator is favorite app, megaman something
something. looking for people to battle with over emulated link cable.
late arrivals
- shawn - favorite game crypt of the necrodancer
- leslie - i have a lot of philosophical and aesthetic issues with most
of the ways that we currently experience technology. i dont like how our
communication is mediated with other people through apps. but if i had to
choose a favorite app, some animated cats, or a go practice app, or signa.
- jenny-remote-belated: apologies, i am absentee and belated to the
notes! she/her. fav app right now is Wigle (WiFi wardriving!) - still
finishing video wit robb. hope to have something before leaving town for 3
weeks ~July 4th. several updates in the notes below.
- also marc & friendz made this rad demo video of the disaster.radio
working prototype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dosXMXaU94
Meeting Roles
- Facilitator/s: Ben
- Stacktaker:
- Timekeeper:
- Notetaker/s: Benny
- URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes
Check in on previous action items
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes
and past action items below:
- create github issue for website for security FAQ
- mai: im interested in helping as a way to learn more about security
- sierk: talked to ben about this last week. people have to be
responsible for their own security--not secure by virtue of using the
network. since we're an educational nonprofit it makes sense to have
educational materials.
- mai: also important to emphasize that it's not any less secure than
any other network
- bengo: maybe a comparison table sudomesh vs. normal isp
- sierk: could also make a security team. would be good for us to
have people dedicated to this.
- bengo: quarterly security review.
Updates & ReportbacksBugs/Technical
Priority bugs we need help with are located at:
http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent
Github activity, see the Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-…
- Benny: fixed a peoples-open front bug #1, also fixed the monitor so it
shows when a node was actually last seen
- Jenny-remote-belated: video primarily delayed cuz we were trying to
film nodes flashed with v.0.3 pre-release that Grant deployed last week
(yay! ty grant! now errybody test it!) - had some issues following the
walkthrough (and assorted technical difficulty circus I won't bore you
with, but may write a satirical post about at some point this summer :P).
Updated the Walkthrough to reflect autoconf as well as node port standards
on latest batch of N600s: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/WalkThrough
- also marc & friendz made this rad demo video of the disaster.radio
working prototype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dosXMXaU94
Node Mounts & Outreach
Node Mounts Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-…
- eenblam-remote: since StorQuest seems like a no-go, can we make Reed
Bros. happen this week? I'm available after Wednesday.
- bengo: are they ready and waiting?
- mai: ya someone talked to them about a mount and they seemed down —
last person who said they would get in touch was lesley
- ACTION bengo: reach out to lesley to pick up communication thread.
Schedule time with Reed Bros
- bengo: I could go thursday or friday this week
- jehan: I could go friday
- mai: I could go thurs or fri
- jenny-remote-belated: with the videomaking deadline, reflashed
livelabs node(s) - 2 more gateways, + 2 extender nodes (pointing NW toward
Scott and SE to Hearth - third pointing SW to be connected once we reroute
cableage as the kitchen power scene is currently a clusterfuck o.0)
- jenny-remote-belated: heard back from lolspace/liberate 23rd ave
tonight! - "We had another meeting and approved the mesh network; we just
need to make sure the wiring doesn't get in the way of the tenants and
we'll need the antenna taken down for a bit while we redo our roof sometime
in the next 2 years-ish. What do we need to do next to get rolling with
this? I'm cc'ing Jen, our point person at Oakland Community Land Trust,
who's also interested in maybe having an antenna set up at her spot too.
Please contact her directly. Thanks! "
- also gonna attempt fixing david & niki node and bringing a node to
First They Came for the Homeless for their meeting Thursday... that is if
we ever escape videomaking purgatory...
- jenny-remote-belated: created this aspirational network topology
diagram for 2018 while working on video:
https://github.com/sudomesh/propaganda/tree/master/infographics/2018_Networ…
Communications & Events
Comms Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-…
// Events Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl…
- Sudo Mesh Comms Channels Venn Diagram: [image:
meshcomms_venndiagram.png]
- benny: we went as a group to b4bel4b to see an exhibit on internet and
surveillance. Would anyone be interested to go to MOAD as a group to see
this exhibit --
https://www.moadsf.org/exhibition/digitalia-art-the-economy-of-ideas/
- bengo, mai: +1
- MOZILLA GRANT SUBMITTED ON FRIDAY WOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO
WORKED ON IT (also jenny and robb are still working on the video)
- sierk - if we like how this working process went, maybe we should
reflect on whether we want to continue setting our own deadlines for future
projects?
- jenny-remote-belated: Decentralized Web summit folks offered me a
ticket. When I asked how many from sudomesh I could +1, they said, "We'd
love to invite the sudomesh community but would they be willing to
volunteer in exchange? We could offer them a $50 ticket with a four-hour
volunteer shift. Here's the thing: each attendee costs the Internet Archive
$536, so with the sliding scale, the only way we can break even is if there
is enough $750 tickets sold to cover the $400 non-profit tix. But we really
need good volunteers to run the time clocks, organize the participants in a
room, man registration, etc. So if sudomesh members are willing to do that,
we'd welcome as many as want to come."
- adding email to the events trello, just indicate "sudo mesh" for
discount ticket - ping me if you need my freebie, am down to swap!
- I also mentioned that we were discussing hosting an
unconferency/informal-style event the weekend after the conf, and they
said, "There's nothing planned the weekend after, so by all
means, host as
many folks as will stick around for the weekend! We're happy to hand out
flyers with registration or help get the word out in any way."
- mentioned this also separately to Gunner (AspirationTech), who
said, "Sounds cool! Keep me posted. We would be happy to chip
is with some
funds for food and bevs." (didn't ask him directly to
participate, was just
feeling out the decentralized web sitch)
- jenny-remote-belated: reminder: will be presenting at Our Networks
in Toronto ~July 14th - can you come? perhaps we could allocate some funds
from the mozilla grant to travel sponsorships? juul will also be presenting
http://fread.ink at HOPE (sierk, this would be your kindle replacement
app...appstore!)
Internal Logistics / Finance
Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter…
- Discussion (5min): bengo: There is this kanban board, should we review
it each meeting to keep up to date?
https://github.com/orgs/sudomesh/projects/2
- sierk: we discussed moving away from github. what if we just used
trello and set this up when we get on gitlab?
- blake: I'd argue against using gitlab because github is important for
maintaining visibility to our project
- sierk: ya i agree. i think we should definitely mirror our repos on
github so something is still there. marc felt pretty strongly about github.
- sven: have you heard of framasoft, non profit which motto is "let's
de-googlize internet". provide a bunch of collaborative software. (blog in
french : https://framablog.org/_
- bengo: im gonna go to the trello board that exists and see if it's
already set up for what im going for here. my primary concern is about
having a single place where we can send people to find out what's being
worked on.
- mai: i think in general we should look at our trellos during these
meetings, so its not an extra step to go there and drag the cards around
- jenny-remote-belated: worked pretty intensely to set up the trello
boards, which are also integrated with the rocketchat - but so is github.
this kanban board looks firmware-specific... internal logistics /
bureaucracy trello is principally: brainstorms/roadmap,
finance/fundraising, gov't filings, and nonprofit docs (eg 501c3 letter,
business plan, insurance leads, bylaws etc)
- See also: Sudo Mesh Communications Handbook (WIP):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sY8w5bfM3rdLz2ODSJ201u1yvI5GlKjoqlXnLbx…
- See also: Organizational chart: [image: mesg_orgchart2.png]
Next SundayNode Mount
We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing
spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays
- Next Sunday's mount:
- a wild lesley appears
- lesley - one of the ones i was excited about is delayed because jeff
moved. am excited about it because we'd have 2 four-story buildings in a
neighborhood of 2-story buildings.
- bengo and lesley plan to coordinate about reed brothers
- mai - a guy who lived in jeff's building named john henry came by--i
can send you his email
Office Hours
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a
shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours
- Next Sunday's volunteer: benny volunteers, mai is backup, lesley will
probably be there too (but is organizing a 7pm machine learning discussion
group at sudo)
- Notes from this past Sunday's session:
copied from seth's update: tried to flash a router but didnt have a usb eth
adapter. will have one next time.
- mai: we made some moves to clean up our wiki in preparation for the
grant proposal, so we could continue that this office hours
- theme: wiki and project ergonomics
Action Items
- create github issue about making faq/security page on website (benny)
- leslie to email me eenblam, whoever else about Reed Bros (leslie)
- talk to commons building that is being built and will block our LOS to
paxio (jehan)
- follow up with b4bel4b about doing a mount and about when our office
hours and meetings are because one of the artists is interested in coming
(mai)
- follow up with hearth node mount (blake)
- eenblam - I have Hearth's nanobeam at my place. Can reflash and
take by there, or we can use a different one. Whatever's clever.
- jenny-remote-belated: yay! livelabs nodes are back online, ping
me and/or marc so we can coordinate aiming!
- [sierk]: research rise up and austin yellow bike project about
non-profits transitioning to paying people. contact them, ask them what
they're willing to share. (sierk in 2 weeks)
- finish video [jenny/robb]
- circle back with lolspace/liberate 23rd ave [jenny]
- circle back w/ archive folks & peef [jenny/juul]
Last Meeting Notes
- https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/12_June_2018
End of Meeting
- please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents
onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_Mon_YYYY
- then please erase the contents of this pad
- then please cut & paste a blank template from here:
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- previous meeting notes are archived here:
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Hey there,
The next Build Your Own Internet Office Hours* will be this Sunday from 1-3pm on Sunday at SudoRoom.
I'll be there and will be hacking on the Mozilla WINS Round II submission, doing whatever didn't get done from the hacking session on Saturday.
Look forward to seeing some of you then!
Mai
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* What are BYOI office hours?
It serves two purposes:
1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting or are not "in the know."
2. A friendly, non-confrontational time for new people to get oriented to the project or just ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service provider.
We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice, conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues
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