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by Jenny Ryan

Allo all! So sorry to miss the meeting tonight :( I added a bunch of belated updates in the notes below: ( as always, recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/26_June_2018 ) ---- Introductions Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements - Icebreaker question: favorite app - mai - she/they - duckduckgo app - storquest said they talked to higher ups and they can't give us roofspace for less than 2k/mo :-( :-( :-( - sierk - guessing that tthe cost must have to do with granting access to the rooftop. they probably calculate a risk about how much work/hassle it would be... can we list them as--what's the opposite of a community partner? - ben - is that the only building that we can get a line of site from? - mai - no, that's just the place paxio seemed most interested in. i have a feeling they want us to establish some sort of infra up there. but reed bros which is on telegraph has a line of site maybe and we have a relationship them. - someone - my brother in law used to work there for a long time - jehan - i would suggest contacting the building that's going up, tell them we have a gigabit from paxio. probably enough for that building and us. - bengo - lets keep movin along - sierk- is it okay that we have a hop? - seth - he/they - antenna pod open source podcast app. couple people came in last sunday. can't remember their names. tried to flash a router but didnt have a usb eth adapter. will have one next time. - sierk - no favorite app. need to find something thats better than kindle on my phone. once i do it will be my favorite. been working on disaster radio. hope to have some cool disaster radio apps ready in a few days. pulled 3 all-nighters. actually my favorite app is definitely camera! - sven - nickname sven - no favorite app, but i am a programmer, so my IDEs. just here to see if you need help. - bengo - check http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted for issues that need help - sachi - stopped using a smart phone a while back. have happily not gone back. maps.me is a good one though. handy if you don't have wifi in a foreign country. interested in finding out what you're up to now. last time i checked in was a couple years back. - bengo - prefer they, but he is okay - favorite app is gitlab. really good for continuous deployment. - benny - he/they - favorite app is instagram but am not a connoiseur. also mountain (the app game thing). - jehan - he/him - favorite app... i go on twitter a lot. crash royale is good too. card game with monsters. feels like strategy is involved. - blake - gameboy advance emulator is favorite app, megaman something something. looking for people to battle with over emulated link cable. late arrivals - shawn - favorite game crypt of the necrodancer - leslie - i have a lot of philosophical and aesthetic issues with most of the ways that we currently experience technology. i dont like how our communication is mediated with other people through apps. but if i had to choose a favorite app, some animated cats, or a go practice app, or signa. - jenny-remote-belated: apologies, i am absentee and belated to the notes! she/her. fav app right now is Wigle (WiFi wardriving!) - still finishing video wit robb. hope to have something before leaving town for 3 weeks ~July 4th. several updates in the notes below. - also marc & friendz made this rad demo video of the disaster.radio working prototype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dosXMXaU94 Meeting Roles - Facilitator/s: Ben - Stacktaker: - Timekeeper: - Notetaker/s: Benny - URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes Check in on previous action items Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below: - create github issue for website for security FAQ - mai: im interested in helping as a way to learn more about security - sierk: talked to ben about this last week. people have to be responsible for their own security--not secure by virtue of using the network. since we're an educational nonprofit it makes sense to have educational materials. - mai: also important to emphasize that it's not any less secure than any other network - bengo: maybe a comparison table sudomesh vs. normal isp - sierk: could also make a security team. would be good for us to have people dedicated to this. - bengo: quarterly security review. Updates & ReportbacksBugs/Technical Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-… - Benny: fixed a peoples-open front bug #1, also fixed the monitor so it shows when a node was actually last seen - Jenny-remote-belated: video primarily delayed cuz we were trying to film nodes flashed with v.0.3 pre-release that Grant deployed last week (yay! ty grant! now errybody test it!) - had some issues following the walkthrough (and assorted technical difficulty circus I won't bore you with, but may write a satirical post about at some point this summer :P). Updated the Walkthrough to reflect autoconf as well as node port standards on latest batch of N600s: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/WalkThrough - also marc & friendz made this rad demo video of the disaster.radio working prototype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dosXMXaU94 Node Mounts & Outreach Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-… - eenblam-remote: since StorQuest seems like a no-go, can we make Reed Bros. happen this week? I'm available after Wednesday. - bengo: are they ready and waiting? - mai: ya someone talked to them about a mount and they seemed down — last person who said they would get in touch was lesley - ACTION bengo: reach out to lesley to pick up communication thread. Schedule time with Reed Bros - bengo: I could go thursday or friday this week - jehan: I could go friday - mai: I could go thurs or fri - jenny-remote-belated: with the videomaking deadline, reflashed livelabs node(s) - 2 more gateways, + 2 extender nodes (pointing NW toward Scott and SE to Hearth - third pointing SW to be connected once we reroute cableage as the kitchen power scene is currently a clusterfuck o.0) - jenny-remote-belated: heard back from lolspace/liberate 23rd ave tonight! - "We had another meeting and approved the mesh network; we just need to make sure the wiring doesn't get in the way of the tenants and we'll need the antenna taken down for a bit while we redo our roof sometime in the next 2 years-ish. What do we need to do next to get rolling with this? I'm cc'ing Jen, our point person at Oakland Community Land Trust, who's also interested in maybe having an antenna set up at her spot too. Please contact her directly. Thanks! " - also gonna attempt fixing david & niki node and bringing a node to First They Came for the Homeless for their meeting Thursday... that is if we ever escape videomaking purgatory... - jenny-remote-belated: created this aspirational network topology diagram for 2018 while working on video: https://github.com/sudomesh/propaganda/tree/master/infographics/2018_Networ… Communications & Events Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-… // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl… - Sudo Mesh Comms Channels Venn Diagram: [image: meshcomms_venndiagram.png] - benny: we went as a group to b4bel4b to see an exhibit on internet and surveillance. Would anyone be interested to go to MOAD as a group to see this exhibit -- https://www.moadsf.org/exhibition/digitalia-art-the-economy-of-ideas/ - bengo, mai: +1 - MOZILLA GRANT SUBMITTED ON FRIDAY WOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON IT (also jenny and robb are still working on the video) - sierk - if we like how this working process went, maybe we should reflect on whether we want to continue setting our own deadlines for future projects? - jenny-remote-belated: Decentralized Web summit folks offered me a ticket. When I asked how many from sudomesh I could +1, they said, "We'd love to invite the sudomesh community but would they be willing to volunteer in exchange? We could offer them a $50 ticket with a four-hour volunteer shift. Here's the thing: each attendee costs the Internet Archive $536, so with the sliding scale, the only way we can break even is if there is enough $750 tickets sold to cover the $400 non-profit tix. But we really need good volunteers to run the time clocks, organize the participants in a room, man registration, etc. So if sudomesh members are willing to do that, we'd welcome as many as want to come." - adding email to the events trello, just indicate "sudo mesh" for discount ticket - ping me if you need my freebie, am down to swap! - I also mentioned that we were discussing hosting an unconferency/informal-style event the weekend after the conf, and they said, "There's nothing planned the weekend after, so by all means, host as many folks as will stick around for the weekend! We're happy to hand out flyers with registration or help get the word out in any way." - mentioned this also separately to Gunner (AspirationTech), who said, "Sounds cool! Keep me posted. We would be happy to chip is with some funds for food and bevs." (didn't ask him directly to participate, was just feeling out the decentralized web sitch) - jenny-remote-belated: reminder: will be presenting at Our Networks in Toronto ~July 14th - can you come? perhaps we could allocate some funds from the mozilla grant to travel sponsorships? juul will also be presenting http://fread.ink at HOPE (sierk, this would be your kindle replacement app...appstore!) Internal Logistics / Finance Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter… - Discussion (5min): bengo: There is this kanban board, should we review it each meeting to keep up to date? https://github.com/orgs/sudomesh/projects/2 - sierk: we discussed moving away from github. what if we just used trello and set this up when we get on gitlab? - blake: I'd argue against using gitlab because github is important for maintaining visibility to our project - sierk: ya i agree. i think we should definitely mirror our repos on github so something is still there. marc felt pretty strongly about github. - sven: have you heard of framasoft, non profit which motto is "let's de-googlize internet". provide a bunch of collaborative software. (blog in french : https://framablog.org/_ - bengo: im gonna go to the trello board that exists and see if it's already set up for what im going for here. my primary concern is about having a single place where we can send people to find out what's being worked on. - mai: i think in general we should look at our trellos during these meetings, so its not an extra step to go there and drag the cards around - jenny-remote-belated: worked pretty intensely to set up the trello boards, which are also integrated with the rocketchat - but so is github. this kanban board looks firmware-specific... internal logistics / bureaucracy trello is principally: brainstorms/roadmap, finance/fundraising, gov't filings, and nonprofit docs (eg 501c3 letter, business plan, insurance leads, bylaws etc) - See also: Sudo Mesh Communications Handbook (WIP): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sY8w5bfM3rdLz2ODSJ201u1yvI5GlKjoqlXnLbx… - See also: Organizational chart: [image: mesg_orgchart2.png] Next SundayNode Mount We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays - Next Sunday's mount: - a wild lesley appears - lesley - one of the ones i was excited about is delayed because jeff moved. am excited about it because we'd have 2 four-story buildings in a neighborhood of 2-story buildings. - bengo and lesley plan to coordinate about reed brothers - mai - a guy who lived in jeff's building named john henry came by--i can send you his email Office Hours We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours - Next Sunday's volunteer: benny volunteers, mai is backup, lesley will probably be there too (but is organizing a 7pm machine learning discussion group at sudo) - Notes from this past Sunday's session: copied from seth's update: tried to flash a router but didnt have a usb eth adapter. will have one next time. - mai: we made some moves to clean up our wiki in preparation for the grant proposal, so we could continue that this office hours - theme: wiki and project ergonomics Action Items - create github issue about making faq/security page on website (benny) - leslie to email me eenblam, whoever else about Reed Bros (leslie) - talk to commons building that is being built and will block our LOS to paxio (jehan) - follow up with b4bel4b about doing a mount and about when our office hours and meetings are because one of the artists is interested in coming (mai) - follow up with hearth node mount (blake) - eenblam - I have Hearth's nanobeam at my place. Can reflash and take by there, or we can use a different one. Whatever's clever. - jenny-remote-belated: yay! livelabs nodes are back online, ping me and/or marc so we can coordinate aiming! - [sierk]: research rise up and austin yellow bike project about non-profits transitioning to paying people. contact them, ask them what they're willing to share. (sierk in 2 weeks) - finish video [jenny/robb] - circle back with lolspace/liberate 23rd ave [jenny] - circle back w/ archive folks & peef [jenny/juul] Last Meeting Notes - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/12_June_2018 End of Meeting - please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_Mon_YYYY - then please erase the contents of this pad - then please cut & paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Temp… - previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Special:Categories> Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 1 month

BYOI Office Hours on Sunday

by mai＠peoplesopen.net

Hey there, The next Build Your Own Internet Office Hours* will be this Sunday from 1-3pm on Sunday at SudoRoom. I'll be there and will be hacking on the Mozilla WINS Round II submission, doing whatever didn't get done from the hacking session on Saturday. Look forward to seeing some of you then! Mai --- * What are BYOI office hours? It serves two purposes: 1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting or are not "in the know." 2. A friendly, non-confrontational time for new people to get oriented to the project or just ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service provider. We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice, conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 1 month

This Saturday — Final Mozilla WINS Challenge Hack Session!

by mai＠peoplesopen.net

Hey there, This Saturday June 16 from noon - 5pm, we'll be meeting at sudoroom to work on Round II of the Mozilla WINS Award, which is due at the end of next week on June 22. Please come and contribute — we need all kinds of help, from writing, videoing, sudomesh wiki cleanin' etc. If we get it, we may be awarded up to $400K. Learn more about the challenge here: https://wirelesschallenge.mozilla.org/ (https://wirelesschallenge.mozilla.org/) Hope you can make it! Mai Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 1 month

PON Meeting Agenda - 12 June 2018

by mai＠peoplesopen.net

Hey there, This is your reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed at the People's Open Network meeting on Tues 12 June 2018, 7:30 - 9:00 PM PT. >>> https://peoplesopen.net/notes (https://peoplesopen.net/notes) Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 1 month

Meeting with lawyer on becoming a non-volunteer-only organization

by Lesley Bell

Hello meshers, I've just realized that it doesn't seem that anyone has emailed the list about the meeting we're having today with our lawyer, Jesse, about our legal options as far as compensating people for work they do with sudomesh. Since we've received our grant from Mozilla, there is a push to pay some people for their labor so we will be able to get more work done as far as having a larger, more reliable network across more of the East Bay. I realize this is late notice, but if anyone has questions they would like answered about this process, reply to this thread and I'll address them in the meeting, We are about to meet at 3PM in the office upstairs in the mezzanine. -L

8 years, 1 month

BYOI Office Hours on Sunday: Mozilla WINS Grant Hack Day

by mai＠peoplesopen.net

Hello mesh people! The next Build Your Own Internet office hours* is this Sunday June 10th from 1pm to late afternoon in SudoRoom (https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Directions). This week we'll be jamming on our submission to Round II of the Mozilla WINS Grant, which is due on 22 June (eek so soon!). We invite anyone with interest and ability to: 1) write descriptions of our "prototype", 2) write up good documentation about our software, 3) organize our code repositories, 4) plan out and record our demo video, or 5) add cool features to our website There's a ton of work to be done so we'd love all the help we can get! Look forward to seeing y'all then. Mai --- * What are BYOI office hours? It serves two purposes: 1. A jumping off point for people interested helping with a scheduled Sunday node mount, but who are not able to attend a Tuesday night meeting or are not "in the know." 2. A friendly, non-confrontational time for new people to get oriented to the project or just ask general questions about networking, the internet, and their service provider. We may also use the time to hold training sessions on a topic of choice, conduct outreach to potential node locations, address finances and purchasing, or tackle any other outstanding issues Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 1 month

PON meeting agenda - 5 June 2018

by mai＠peoplesopen.net

Hey there, This is your reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed at the People's Open Network meeting on Tues 5 June 2018, 7:30 - 9:00 PM PT. >>> https://peoplesopen.net/notes (https://peoplesopen.net/notes) Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 1 month

Nonprofit Tech Club

by Hilary Naylor

hi all, I received an invitation to this event and wondered if someone from SudoMesh would like to be a "featured attendee" (that option becomes available after registering for the event)? https://local.nten.org/events/details/nten-oakland-presents-donuts-dots#/ I'm not sufficiently in touch with current SudoMesh activities to do a good job representing us. cheers Hilary --- Hilary Naylor, Ph.D. www.a2zed.us Oakland CA

8 years, 2 months

PON Meeting Agenda - 29 May 2018

by mai＠peoplesopen.net

Hey there, This is your weekly reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed at the People's Open Network meeting on Tue 29 May 2018, 7:30 - 9:00 PM PT. >>> https://peoplesopen.net/notes (https://peoplesopen.net/notes) Sent via Migadu.com, world's easiest email hosting

8 years, 2 months

Fwd: Librerouter is around the corner: who wants one?

by Mitar

Hi! Forwarding. Mitar -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: nico(a)libre.ws <nico(a)libre.ws> Subject: [Battlemesh] Librerouter is around the corner: who wants one? To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List <battlemesh(a)ml.ninux.org> Hi everyone, We are just around the corner on having the LibreRouter with us! In order to prepare for the imminent arrival, we prepared a report to have you informed on how it will be and how you will be able to use it. https://librerouter.org/media/librerouter-datasheet.pdf We have also prepared a video to explain you how you can use it in your communities: http://gg.gg/LR-video Last but not least, we also want to ask you a few questions about how you plan to use them in your communities. Please help us collect this information, that will enable us to prepare for the public release of the LibreRouter: http://gg.gg/LibreRouter-whowantsone This same article can be found here: http://gg.gg/LR-whowantsone-article Have I told you that is Open Source Software and Hardware? You can check out the source at: http://github.com/libremesh/librerouter That is all for now. Don't hesitate on reaching out on any question that you might ask. Regards, -- Nicolás Pace AlterMundi.net -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m

8 years, 2 months

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