[Mesh] Minutes Re: PON Meeting Agenda 2 Oct 2018

Below you'll find the SudoMesh meeting minutes from Tues, 2 October 2018. The notes are also viewable online: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/2_October_2018 (https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/2_October_2018) ------- '''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 2 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm''' * https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy === Agenda === * Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins) * Check in on previous action items (5 mins) * Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins) * Next Sunday (5 mins) * Discussion: What should our internal project proposals look like? (15 mins) * Action Items (5 mins) * Breakout Groups === Introductions === Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements * Icebreaker question: What is your favorite gift to give and/or receive? * grant - he/they - favorite gift to give or receive is one that is made by hand ** benny/jenny - it's grant's birthday! ** jenny - maybe sunday we should have a joint birthday party * robb - he/him - favorite gift is one found * jon - he/him - favorite gift to give/receive is knowledge * seth - he/they - favorite gift to receive is cashews/walnuts * jenny - she/her - favorite gift to give/receive is books, specifically ursula le guinn novels. i also give a lot of 5th sacred thing (starhawk). (bay area separated from the resit of california -- city of refuge follow up). * benny - he/him - favorite gift to give/receive - little blank hand-sown books ** meshed granny squares at the next BYOI !!! * scott - he/him -i like to give books or food, or i used to do a lot of jewelry, but that's hard because it takes time and i get anxious * martin - he - usually i like to gift people with my presence--this is my gift to you--you're all welcome. mostly i like to receive things that are hand-crafted and that tell a story about the person. simple, not expensive, but a lot of care. * mai - she/they - either an unexpected food gift or a book that I like or that the other person would really be into * ben (eenblam) - he/they - i like getting chocolate. i like buying chocolate for other people too i guess, but maybe that's because i get to buy myself chocolate. (usually like dark; sea salt is fun) === Meeting Roles === * Facilitator/s: Jenny * Stacktaker: Benny * Notetaker/s: Benny, robb ** URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes == Check in on previous action items == Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below: * check in with nic about whether we can use the 2 tix interchangeably over the 3 days - juul ** jenny checked and yes, only jenny + juul used it. ** scott - we tried to figure it out but didn't know what to do. * find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?) ** moving to next week (no eenblam) ** mebbe scott * submit budget request for non-penetrating roof mounts - grant? juul? ** grant - yes, thought we should order 2x roof mounts ** scott - was talking with robb last week and we think we can make them for way cheaper ** jenny - other thing grant submitted was slipmat ** grant - ya should buy those ** breakout sesh after / notes below * look at neighborly app and apply (benny) ** applied! as a service provider * explore what a map of the mesh would look like (mai) ** mai - punt 2 weeks and work with jenny * think about our communications systems -- make email list and rocket chat more present (benny) ** punted to next week == Updates & Reportbacks == === Bugs/Technical === Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-… * benny - fixed bug with exitnode babeld restart script -- we still have regular outages (see http://peoplesopen.net/monitor), but now it takes just a few seconds instead of hours before all the nodes come back online * benny - at the last software wg we researched this babeld bug some more * grant - had some discussion with jorrit about which exitnode ips to include in the firmware -- one of the exitnodes in the list receives connections but does not provide any mesh routes. we also want to deprecate psychz. ** propose hosting a new exit node at the internet archive * grant - there's a firmware rebuild issue * grant - now travis pushes back to builds.sudomesh.org so now we're doing nightly builds! ** ben - is there an easy way to push a stable release? ** grant - no it's still manual === Node Mounts & Outreach === Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-… * reed bros - need help understanding how to use air os on the mesh. started debugging this at last sunday's office hours w/ juul. still more to figure out. * omni rooftop (air fiber! and omni rocket!) ** airfiber still needs ground cable! ** time to e-mail paxio?! eenblam * benny: anybody know what LOLspace's status is? ** robb - originally we wanted to put a receiver in the village, but then we ran out of time and were unsure about the security of the receiver ** jenny - village site was slated to move by mid november because of a seismic thing, but that's being pushed to mid-january, and the city is promising to provide village with available properties to move to by mid-october. Recently the village has lost a lot of equipment -- their shower truck was dismantled, solar panels stolen... * robb - someone at here nor there camp has a solar panel and is able to run his laptop all night. might be able to put a pole on his van. may involve puttin a telescoping pole on top of david and nicki's. i'm looking into it. ** jenny - we should finish dave and nicki's. ** grant - recommend putting up an omni antenna if you go back and spend time there. ** eenblam - also recommend putting an omni on jeff's. === Communications & Events === Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-… // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peopl… * seth wrote a newsletter draft: https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/pon-newsletter-2018-04 ** ben: i have pictures ** mai: me too--also i've been meaning to do the handshake press release * handshake press release: mai and jenny are working on it - join! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nmocVa7zTuLkWniObF2jikGoL5MI8MD7n2InSD… * kalw article: http://www.kalw.org/post/people-s-open-net-internet-people-people#stream/0 * Issue with PON networks - monopolized by major service providers * jon - researching landlord rights re: ISP provider availability to their renters. focused on SF. oakland wouldnt be protected under their ordinance. oakland's would ideally provide support for peer-to-peer networks and definition of what a communication service provider is. . under SF police code ( ** discussion about ordinance: https://sfgov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2863893&GUID=E010F… ** eenblam - monkey brains had something on their website saying that if your landlord wouldn't let you install, the ordinance would enable them to install. but, last i checked, i couldnt find the wording on the website anymore. ** grant - in oakland is there anything that says you can or cannot put anything on your apartment building? ** jon - maybe need to update the building codes. right now every apartment has to have a mandatory phone jack. maybe should change to mandatory cat 6. === Internal Logistics / Finance === Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/inter… * Jenny and Benny issued reimbursements for everyone who requested it * Purchasing requests: ** Grant clarified the roofmount equipment needs. were coonfused about laser gun (namely why and why this model which is ~$200 more than other similar models?) * ben - if we can get professional google earth, we'd get lidar data from that. * grant - i got some wirless wires -- supposedly can put openwrt on them == Next Sunday == === Node Mount === We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays * Next Sunday's mount: ** make prototype non-penetrating roof mount (lead by scott and robb) ** birthday party! === Office Hours === We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours * Next Sunday's volunteer: * Notes from this past Sunday's session: == Discussion: What should our internal project proposals look like? == * 1) Read bengo and jorrit's comments on loomio (https://www.loomio.org/d/YuC1wIps/how-we-make-decisions/8) and (https://www.loomio.org/d/YuC1wIps/how-we-make-decisions/11) * 2) Discuss ** Going to start on loomio (ran out of time to discuss in person this week) == Action Items == * find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?) ** scott doesn't mind the heights * see if we got a neighborly app receipt and put in google drive (benny) * schedule psychz deprecation session with juul (benny) * buy omni antennas (grant) * e-mail paxio (juul) * add ISOC proposal process to loomio discussion below (jenny) * new loomio thread for defining project proposal template (benny) == Breakout Groups == At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics. * rooftop mounts * airfiber + mesh * more landlord/ISP ordinance chats == Last Meeting Notes == * https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/25_September_2018 == End of Meeting == * please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_MM_YYYY * then please erase the contents of this pad * then please cut & paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Temp… * previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes [[Category:Mesh/Minutes]] October 1, 2018 10:52 AM, mai(a)peoplesopen.net (mailto:mai@peoplesopen.net) wrote: Hey there, This is a reminder to add any topics you'd like to be discussed at the People's Open Network meeting on Tues 2 October 2018, 7:30 - 9:00 PM PT. 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