16 Jan
2017
16 Jan
'17
12:53 a.m.
i think the entrance to sudo/ccl should have a door before we bother putting a
card reader.
the door that had been there was removed, because it swung inwards, which is
unacceptable for an emergency exit. The door needs to be re-installed with the
hinges swinging outward, so that in case an emergency happens in sudo/ccl
people can just flood outward.
after the door is installed that way, with a panic bar (not a regular doorknob)
we can install a card reader.
-jake
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Maureen Muldavin wrote:
If you are working on RFID cards any possibility that
the entrance to
sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting access control for
awhile.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
i brought in a wheelchair motor a while ago that
I think could be made into
a
power door-opener pretty well.
I can work on a proof-of-concept for that and then be able to show you what
I
mean, and then we can see if it will be good enough for our needs as opposed
to
spending $2800 on a "proper" door opener.
as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have been working on implementing the card
reader thing for a little while and I think I can add it to the front door
pretty relatively easily.., and I guess i'll do that first, rather than
trying
to do a storage closet first?
as always, if anyone wants to participate in this process they should
definitely jump in, otherwise it's subject to my chaotic schedule.
technical questions about making this happen should be sent to the access
list
and possibly the sudoroom list, but probably not the building list as it
will
be a major distraction if we get into the weeds of microcontroller boards
and
door server code...
also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff you ordered and i've been working
on
it~
-jake
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:
Hi Jake / access control folks -
So now that our front door is publicly labelled as accessible, we need to
install an automatic door opener & remote button (kickplate & hand-height
or a long bar) to make it legal.
Reason I bring this up to you guys is, the opener system will need to
integrate into our existing/future access control somehow. The quote I got
is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a package including the Open Sesame
Model 233 (brochure
<http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/open_sesame_brochure.pdf>,
spec
sheet <http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/specs_model233.pdf>),
made in San Leandro.
Also, some of us met last week re: sketching out Omni's accessibility
plan,
and Yar suggested this might be a good time to also implement RFID system
for the front door, if that was possible? In part because, proximity to an
RFID fob is more accessible than a card swipe which (after thinking about
it) I realized requires a pincing motion that is likely not ADA... because
of the excessive door opening pressure and iffy slope on the front
landing,
we need an RFID & auto-opener.
So -- I'm not sure if any more work has been done on the RFID systems I
put
in sudo a little while ago (stashed in under-stair storage area), might it
be possible to integrate these into the door opener? I note in the
brochure
they offer a keypad access option - perhaps an opportunity for 2-factor
authentication like Marc had talked about? Anyhow what do you guys think?
I apologize for not helping y'all more with a better access control system
(helping spaces post-ghostship consumed my bandwidth), but as there is now
renewed pressure I want to help as I can. Would installing a trial
RFID/throw on the Omni Office for example still be helpful towards getting
this nailed down? Lmk
Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at this point not just 'cause its long
overdue, but because every day our front door is labelled as accessible
when it's technically not, is actually a not-insignificant liability issue
(accessibility lawsuit). Plus of course, we are still under scrutiny by
the
city, nimby neighbors trying to call us out for bogus reasons, etc etc.
And
per building code the front door must be made fully accessible before any
other accessibility work starts on the rest of the building - at some
point
an inspector's gonna notice since they all go through that door..anyhow.
Let me know how myself & those of us working on accessibility might be
able
to help -
Best,
David