Hi all! :) at Hacklab in Edinburgh right now. Share more next week. :)
Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>please take notes at http://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomesh !
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i will be late, but marc will be there at 7:30!
please take notes at http://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomesh !
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Karen is asking if we want to present the mesh at Dorkbot in January.
Anyone up for it?
--
marc/juul
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From: karen marcelo <karen(a)srl.org>
Date: Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: dorkbot jan
To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org>
Cc: Marc Juul <marcjc(a)gmail.com>, Jenny Ryan SF <Tunabananas(a)gmail.com>
Hi Marc and Ryan
Thats cool! If you guys are into it let me know - either for the 29th
(depending on Jake's schedule) or after..
I need one more presentation for the 29th so let me know if you guy want to
present then or Jake if you want to?
The presentations are 20-30 min - there will proabably be 100-150 people
though this space is huge so there may be more.
Doors open at 7:30 and it goes till about 10:30-11:00
The dorks would totally be into hearing about this!
Thanks! -Karen
On Dec 27, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jake wrote:
> hey karen!
>
> I am excited about the mesh network but i'm only a fan - the talk will
have to be given by Marc or Jenny who are copied on this email.
>
> -jake
>
> On Fri, 27 Dec 2013, karen marcelo wrote:
>
>> hey jake
>>
>> nice running into you at that katabatik thing in oakland - I'd like to
learn more about the things you
>> talked about - mesh networks and/or new solar thing you're working on if
you'd still be up for
>> doing a presentation at dorkbot.
>>
>> the next one is jan 29 then after that - don't know when as i may have
to be in the philippines again
>> for a stretch. i'll be at the cyclecide warehouse in sf.
>>
>> hope your holiday was great and happy 2014 in advance!
>>
>> -karen
>>
>
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Subject: [LibreMap] LibreMap news
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 03:58:42 -0800
From: André Gaul <gaul(a)web-yard.de>
Reply-To: LibreMap Discussion <discussion(a)lists.libremap.net>
To: LibreMap Discussion <discussion(a)lists.libremap.net>
Hej!
I just returned from the 30c3 in Hamburg -- it was very exhausting yet
overwhelmingly productive for community networks in general and LibreMap
in particular.
So what's going on in the LibreMap universe? The most important messages
are all good news:
* the API is usable. \o/
--> an instance runs on http://libremap.net/api
* the webui is usable. \o/
--> an instance runs on http://libremap.net
* both the API and webui are now based on npm+bower+gruntjs which
takes away the pain from managing dependencies and deploying
(no more couchdb tools like 'erica' are needed)
* a submit agent for openwrt was just added. [2]
* conversion scripts from openwifimap and altermap are available. [3,4]
* the number of users starts to grow, but we need to continue to
spread the word about the benefits of a global router database.
* I also want to thank all contributors and early adopters who helped
a lot with their feedback!
Notes and future work for the API:
* the basic JSON schema is mature but we should go further and
provide a standardized way of providing additional information
like contact, place, software, network/wifi interfaces, antennas, ...
We don't have to reinvent the wheel here for most data. :)
* the usage of JSON-LD was proposed in [5].
* endpoint names should be pluralized, see [6].
* the installation of couchdb+geocouch still is the main obstacle when
setting up LibreMap and we should provide a clear documentation for
this. An even better approach would be to provide up-to-date
debian/ubuntu couchdb+geocouch packages in a ppa or in the
official debian repo.
- --> the API/schema changes should be discussed now such that we can
freeze the API in the next weeks. Nothing hurts more than an unstable
API... ;)
Notes and future work for the webui:
* models+views are based on backbonejs+leafletjs
* the map view switches between two modes automatically based on the
number of routers in the current viewport:
- coarse mode: only clusters of all available routers are shown
(aggregated in the couchdb via map/reduce view)
- fine mode: all routers are downloaded from the couchdb and the
user can choose between several filters to control
which routers+links are actually displayed.
The two modes are necessary in order to scale to a global level.
There's a demo of the technique with 50000 nodes [1].
* the webui is very modular and easy to extend.
* especially the filters are easy to write and everybody is invited
to contribute!
* configuration (base layers, filters, ...) can be adapted for each
installation by modifying the config.json file.
Notes on the openwrt submit agent [2]:
* extensible via small and configurable lua plugins
(/etc/config/libremap). Available plugins:
- contact information
- location
- system information
- wireless links (physical links)
* I will contribute an olsr plugin in the next days.
* Nico is about to write a batman-adv plugin.
* ideas for more plugins:
- automatic determination of location via wifi networks that
can be received
- links for more routing protocols: babel, bmx6, bgp, ...
- network interfaces
* plugin contributions are very welcome! Please file a pull request
for new plugins.
As you can see, we're on a good way and you're all invited to:
* check out the current version
* set up replication between your and other couchdb instances
(coordination should happen through this mailing list)
* file bug reports, feature requests or proposals for improvements
* contribute code, especially for the webui and submit agent.
Cheers from the LibreMap maintainers,
André and Nico
[1] http://couchmap.d00d3.net/
[2] https://github.com/libremap/libremap-agent-openwrt
[3] https://github.com/libremap/libremap-adapter-openwifimap
[4] https://github.com/nicoechaniz/libremap-adapter-altermap
[5] https://github.com/libremap/libremap-api/issues/6
[6] https://github.com/libremap/libremap-api/issues/3
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Subject: [OTI] Commotion v1 Released!
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:35:24 -0800
From: Josh King <jking(a)opentechinstitute.org>
Organization: The Open Technology Institute
To: Oti List <oti(a)lists.opentechinstitute.org>
Hi all,
Just to let everyone know, version 1 of the Commotion Router firmware
has been released. Android and Linux version 1 releases coming soon:
https://commotionwireless.net/blog/commotion-router-v1-release-noteshttp://www.newamerica.org/node/99668
Thanks to everyone on the Commotion Team, especially those that put in
so much work over the holidays, for putting out such a great release!
Release party plans forthcoming.
--
Josh King
Lead Technologist
The Open Technology Institute
We now have the first component of the portable spectrum mapper: A gps-enabled low power logging wifi scanner. It broadcasts time, position and wifi scan data over ethernet and logs everything locally. I also added the ar9 spectrum scan patches to sudo mesh firmware and verified that spectral scanning works.
The portable unit will have a li-ion battery pack and can alternatively be powered from a normal 12 volt car plug.
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December 26th Hacknight
Reposted for posterity at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/26_December_2013
=Attendees=
*MaxB, Jeremy, Jenny, Marc, Deekoo, Pete Forsyth
=Updates=
*Jenny and Pete brainstormed some intro flyers last week - Jenny will
work on "elevator pitch" / & mission/vision today
**MeshThePlanet.Org: Planet blog aggregator, calendar, directory/map
[https://github.com/libremap], resources [legal, technical, graphical,
historical, etc], software tools, forum?
*Jeremy went through the video interviews - they look great! He and
Daniel have been going through and marking good segments
*Marc is debugging the last bits of the firmware & node configurator (
see this email:
https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/mesh/2013-December/000672.html ).
Upgraded Sudo Room's internet with two new access points. Got the
spectrum analyzer working on our firmware (see below)
**Portable spectrum analyzer: Mac G4 battery to power the Bullet M5,
mounted on a pole and hooked up to a GPS, running the stock AirOS
spectrum analyzer software.
*MaxB tackling web admin bug, going to write some scripts for more
seamlessly incorporating firmware updates onto the build server
*Deekoo has been barreling through the build scripts for OpenWRT - got
it to download a build root in a secure, but not yet audit-able
fashion - still security holes all the way down \o/
=ToDos Tonight=
*MaxB on web admin bug [done]
*MaxB writing scripts [done]
*Jenny making sudomesh gravatar [done]
*Jenny on mission/vision & elevator pitch & blog posts [not done]
*Juul squishing bugs [partially done]
*Deekoo banging on the build scripts [presumedly done]
=Notes=
*Bugs were squished. Marc knocked off 4/5 off his ToDos from the email
(linked above).
*Jenny taught Pete git, and meanwhile made a sudomesh gravatar:
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/787ec18db5a9c270fa420c8a0c49cdde.png
*Pete taught Jenny how to common our media, uploading WNDW to
wikimedia commons & wikisource and converting it to markdown (see below).
*Will we deploy any nodes before the New Year? To be continued...
=Gratuitous Link Dump=
*Pete uploaded the 3rd edition of Wireless Networking in the
Developing World here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wireless_Networking_in_the_Developi…
and then we realized Matt had already done this:
*https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wireless_Networking_in_the_Developing_World
*and also on Github:
https://github.com/wrought/wireless-networking-in-the-developing-world/tree…
*Jenny's thesis, to go on WikiSource! - http://thevirtualcampfire.org
*Network Startup Resource Center - http://nsrc.org/
*Secure peer-to-peer networking - lots of great documentation! -
https://gnunet.org & https://gnunet.org/bibliography
*The Oakland CORE training for emergency preparedness has morphed into
this:
http://www2.oaklandnet.com/Government/o/OFD/s/EmergencyPreparedness/LearnLe…
*Also this:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/millions-of-dogecoins-stolen-in-apparent-…
*Video of our presentation at SFSU:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8-eLJ4lDLg&feature=youtu.be
*Article on Village Telco & the Mesh Potato:
http://ecopreneurist.com/2013/12/23/green-business-ideas-mesh-network-telep…
~!~
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://sudomesh.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
- -Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
- -Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
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All- I just wanted to point out, I just started a list of ISP options for
Oakland residents on the Sudo wiki:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Internet#Internet_options_for_Oakland_residents
I included a note about peoplesopen.net -- I'd love to see others'
improvements on this page if I've left anything out (I'm sure there's lots)
or if things can be explained better.
Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
Today I flashed the first router with sudomesh firmware and used the
node-configurator to set it up. After fixing a few bugs, it now comes up
mostly correctly after configuration(!)
Here are the remaining ToDos that I feel we need to deal with before I feel
we can "ship" this as an initial launch:
* The simplified web gui does not allow me to log in. Trying to log in as
root gives the error "The CGI process did not produce any response"
* Change meshrouting script to establish NAT between mesh and private wifi
network.
* Add upstream traffic control to tunneldigger hook script.
* Hook web gui into batman-adv and tunneldigger for changes to shared
internet bandwidth.
* Ensure that exit and relay nodes are configured correctly.
* Change MTU on interfaces to make batman happy.
Max: Any idea about the web gui error? Also, if you're trying to work with
node-configurator, remember that the client only trusts the certificate
included in the firmware here:
https://github.com/sudomesh/openwrt-firmware/blob/master/files/etc/nodeconf…
The node-configurator client will refuse to connect to anything that
doesn't have a cert signed by that root ca. Easiest solution for testing is
to use the script included with node-configurator to generate your own root
cert, copy that over the existing root cert in openwrt-firmware and re-run
make in built_firmware/builder.atheros
--
marc/juul
Hello mesh folks,
I took some donated Sparky boards from Noisebridge with the intention to
use them as wireless sensor nodes (environmental monitoring, etc) but
while I can get OpenWRT installed I run into problems with the hardware
watchdog rebooting the device every 5 minutes. It looks like OpenWRT
includes support for the ar2315 watchdog but something isn't working.
Have you all found a solution or workaround for this?
Thanks, dana
*A note on hacknights, flows and collaboration:*
*We typically start around 7:30 with a go-around of brief introductions and
updates on what we've been working on and/or what we plan to work on that
night.
*I'd like to suggest a Check-in around 10pm to provide opportunity for
people to a) feel comfortable leaving if they want to, and b) receive
feedback on whatever it is they've been working on.
*Would also like to encourage people to task themselves publicly by adding
Action Items to the notes
*And to link dump indiscriminately!
Reposted for posterity at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/12_December_2013 -
edit at will
Attendees
- Deekoo, Jeremy, Jenny, Maxb, Marc, Daniel, Deekoo, Xavier, Luis
Updates
- Jenny and Matt went to SF State to give a presentation on Sudomesh to
a computer networking for business students class. Went well! It was 40
minutes long and there was a lot of eye contact! No sleeping in the back!!
- For future presentations we could set up a mesh!
- Internships!
- Prof is interested in tinkering with 802.11s + library in a box
- MaxB working on the build server & firmware generator - ready to do a
new walkthrough for creating nodes
- Deekoo has gotten the Nanostation working (can pick up MonkeyBrains
5GHz from 2 miles away!), Nanobridge not working, wants to do range testing
- We could run the PoE off of old laptop batteries! Mounted on a
pedicab! Bandwidth/speed test + spectrum analysis
- Luis is working on setting up / learning about BATMAN, interested in
working on client-side interfaces
- Jeremy + Daniel did a bunch of video interviews this past weekend!
Interested in education + outreach
- Daniel applied for us to receive a donation of 3 racks, 13/14 hard
drives
- Jenny + Matt + Mitar spoke with Ralf from Internet Archive - Notes to
be put on wiki - https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Meetings
- Marc has been finishing up the node configurator, let's test it on a
router tonight!
- Also working on stickers with basic info such as private SSID +
password, admin login info
- Xavier interested in applications of mesh for activism
Ideas
- Add a link on the site for "I'd like to get an intro to the mesh"
- Talk to technology coordinators in schools
- Local applications still in need of a portal page; Luis wants to help
design the frontend
- Tech Support: Send or bring us your router and we'll give you a node
- Daniel suggests a block party to test the range of the mesh!
- Talk to people who own properties about mounting nodes on the
rooftops.
- Inspiration from the FNF - convinced the owner of a housing complex
to provide free Wi-Fi, after which point the chronically empty apartments
were filled!
Checkins
- Chris has a pretty sweet CAD design for a 3D printed enclosure for the
Sparkys!
- Deekoo tested most of our 5GHz routers - 3 Nanobridges working
[Checked out one], 2 not working [plz edit with correct data]
- Jenny reading Cook Report interviews w/ Altermundi & FNF folks:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Interviews_with_other_meshers#Altermundi_Int…
- MaxB compiling..
- Firmware generator is ready to roll! playing nicely with the node
configurator
- https://github.com/sudomesh/openwrt-firmware-config
- Juul tweaking node configurator
- https://github.com/sudomesh/node-configurator
- Scattered brainstorms
Action Items
- Jenny to put Internet Archive and SFSU notes on wiki:
- https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/InternetArchive
-
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Presentations#Professor_Sameer_Verda.27s_Wir…
- Jenny update To Dos & Add Meetings/Presentations to Nav
- https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/ToDos
- https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Meeting
- https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Presentations
- Daniel & Jeremy to edit video / do more interviews [Sunday]
- Marc to test node configurator on a pico
- Matt and Jenny to revamp presentation
Linkdump
- East Bay Broadband Consortium<http://www.ebbroadband.org/action_plan.asp>
- East Bay Connects helps people find affordable broadband
services<http://www.eastbayconnects.com/>
- MileMesh project starting up in Hoboken, NJ <http://www.milemesh.com/>
- Koruza prototype can be 3D printed! (optical wireless networks aka
LASERS!) <https://dev.wlan-si.net/wiki/KORUZA/Prototype>
- COOK Report on the Global Free Network
Movement<http://blog.altermundi.net/media/uploads/nov-dec_2013_crpp.pdf>-
Jenny's
Excerpts<https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Interviews_with_other_meshers#Altermundi_Int…>
- PHP Network Weathermap <http://www.network-weathermap.com>
- LibreMap being actively developed :) <https://github.com/libremap>
- Altermundi documentation (in Spanish) <http://docs.altermundi.net/>
- Altermundi projects <https://colectivo.altermundi.net/projects>
--------
Jenny
http://jennyryan.nethttp://thepyre.orghttp://thevirtualcampfire.orghttp://technomadic.tumblr.com
`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
"Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
-Laurie Anderson
"Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
-Hannah Arendt
"To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
-Stéphane Mallarmé
~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
It would seem we should maybe keep funding opportunities off-list (private
email or at meetings), but thanks for the heads up, Ryan!
On Dec 4, 2013 1:18 PM, "Charles N Wyble" <charles(a)knownelement.com> wrote:
> Should we apply for this?
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Ryan Evans <ryanlyleevans(a)gmail.com>
> Sent: Wed Dec 04 12:02:43 CST 2013
> To: mesh(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: [Mesh] grant
>
> Via BoingBoing, a $10k technology
> grant<http://www.tides.org/impact/awards-prizes/pizzigati-prize/>(proposal
> due friday)
>
>
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Got it! Thanks!
Somebody <somebody(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>Hello, is there a phone # for peoplesopen.net that I can use on a donation request form? Filling up the form now. It will be great if I can get the number ASAP, if there is one.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Daniel
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Hello, is there a phone # for peoplesopen.net that I can use on a donation request form? Filling up the form now. It will be great if I can get the number ASAP, if there is one.
Thanks,
Daniel
The NanoBridge doesn't show up on the lan at all for me - if I turn it on,
usually the switch will have no link light and the feedhorn will have a link
light; unplugging and replugging cables will sometimes switch this. Other
lights appear to go on correctly (power, reds and oranges if I reset it).
The NanoBridge and NanoStation spec sheets says they expect 24v 0.5A PoE,
while the injectors I've got are 15v 0.8a, which is what the PicoStation
wants. (The wiring is the same either way, pairs 4,5+ and 7,8 return.)
The NanoStation is fine on a 15v 0.8A injector, though.
Compiling for ar71xx gets me a binary that runs on the NanoStation. Woot!
Haven't yet been able to get the NanoStation radio into master mode, though.
IIRC someone was working on open-source drivers for it under FreeBSD - what's
the status of that?
It looks like part of my patch is in the official firmware, but not all of
it - the tweaks to telnetd and ntp hotplug aren't in.
HTTP interface feedback: (running a bastard hybrid of my
firmware and the github version, as of Dec 6):
The default hostname is picostation-juul, regardless of actual hardware
platform.
On initial HTTP connection to a passwordless router, I get both a
'No password set!' message instructing me to go to password configuration
and an 'Authorization Required' dialog.
The intuitive behaviour for me was to enter desired username and password
in the big fat boxes, when apparently the CORRECT thing was
to click 'Go to password configuration': which redirects to the
identical-appearing page http://10.0.0.237/cgi-bin/luci/admin/system/admin
At that point, I'm supposed to ignore 'Go to password configuration' and
instead log in, at which point I'll have both the auth config screen and
a message admonishing me to go to password configuration.
When you scroll down to the bottom and click 'Save and apply', you get
a very small notification that the password has been changed and a large
'Applying changes' animation that was still running a couple hours later.
ps showed no obvious sign of any processes related to the 'Applying changes'
message, though I might have missed something.
Typing your password twice (this time, on an actual picostation) and then
pressing enter deletes your dropbear settings. Bad from a usability
perspective. The deletion also appears to be persistent, while the big
save buttons at the bottom would suggest that dropbear changes wouldn't
take effect until you save & apply.
Recommendations:
1) Take the user straight to passphrase configuration if they try to admin
a router without a passphrase set.
2) Passphrase configuration should be just passphrase configuration; dropbear
should have its own page.
3) Status reports should be prominent and not interleaved with the
rest of the design.
4) Links should be underlined and coloured; bold alone is too subtle.
5) Call it 'passphrase' rather than 'password', so we get more correct horse
battery staples and fewer swordfish.
