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by Yardena Cohen

Hi all, I'm not sure what's the best way to contact folks in Sudo Mesh For legal reasons, every omni collective needs to have 1 member formally represented on the Omni Commons executive board. Right now Sudo Mesh appears to not be represented by anybody, because we haven't updated our bylaws since you joined as a member collective. Could you all figure out who you want on Omni's board? We are hoping to have a formal meeting to update Omni's bylaws this Thursday. It would be great if Sudo Mesh could send a delegate to this meeting! Thursday March 4th 7-9pm https://meet.google.com/diw-hszw-msr or 515-428-1108 (PIN: 465 814 905)

3 years, 1 month

New exit node!

by Marc Juul

Last night I switched the mesh over to a new exit node. The exit node is the server that acts as a VPN for all of the traffic coming from people connected to a peoplesopen.net access point. This switchover means two things: 1. You won't see any more nasty capthas form google. Craigslist works again, and so does editing wikipedia \o/ 2. You may get a warning from google or other sites that you're logging in from a new IP (since our new exit node has a new IP) This new exit node actually has multiple IP addresses which means we're no longer sharing a single IP for the entire mesh (so feel free to set your torrent clients to use as many simultaneous connections as you please :p). It's also hosted at a Tor-exit-node-friendly hosting company (psychz.net) so we shouldn't get any trouble for running a VPN. A few people have removed the ability for sudo mesh to remote-update their mesh nodes and opted to manage their own nodes. If this is you and you still want to switch to the new exit node then you can log into your node as root and run the attached script (note that this will reboot your node). I should note that the old and new exit nodes are interconnected so even if you aren't using the new exit node yet, you're still on the mesh. I'm not sure how long the old exit node will stay up though. If you have any questions, just reply to this email :) and as always: MESH THE PLANET! -- marc/juul

7 years, 10 months

Why I'm leaving sudomesh

by Max B

I've been putting this off for a while now, but I think it's important that I finally come out and say this. I'm no longer interested in a being a member or in any way involved with sudomesh. This might surprise some folks, largely because so much of the dysfunction in this group has been swept under the rug, but I don't want to continue to participate in the facade of "everything is fine here and we're building a community mesh network". I don't think it's fair to new folks or to the community at large. The ownership and power structures of the organization are choking a really good idea to death. At first I tried to cope with it, thinking that it was better than nothing. Later I attempted to take action to help correct it, but was met with a complete unwillingness. The work is difficult enough. I no longer feel any need to compound it with the interpersonal, power dynamics, and bureaucratic difficulties that sudomesh is burdened with. As I'm currently the owner and maintainer of the sudomesh exit node, if people are using a "peoplesopen.net" router and want to continue to do so, they should speak with someone involved with sudomesh (probably Juul) to coordinate ongoing functionality. I will continue to maintain some infrastructure, mostly those nodes that I personally installed. I'm happy to support folks who I personally met with and helped setup. I do continue to care deeply about building community owned and operated internet infrastructure. I'm happy to talk about my future plans with folks as well as what I think went off the rails here. Obviously there is a lot of work to be done in this domain and though I'm discouraged by the situation here, I do think that we can move forwards in positive directions. Feel free to reach out directly to me if you'd like to be a part of that. Max

7 years, 10 months

Re: [mesh-dev] [Babel-users] Adding and removing interfaces dynamically in babeld

by max b

I think we probably want to be a little patient with this before we switch over, but yeah it's definitely nice that he came around to building this. We can start testing it on the dev exit server. Oh and we might be able to just abandon our changes to the code in our git repo because fixing the history is a nightmare right now. On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk> wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek < > jch(a)pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've finally done some work on redesigning the local control interface of >> babeld. > > > Nice! Looks like we can finally abandon our own patched version and switch > to mainline. Thanks for adding this! > > -- > marc/juul > > > _______________________________________________ > Babel-users mailing list > Babel-users(a)lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/babel-users >

8 years, 2 months

Re: [mesh-dev] Exit server downtime

by max b

Ok exit server is back up. Thanks for the patience. We're probably gonna have to migrate to another vps tomorrow. I'm gonna go with linode unless anyone else has suggestions. We need 3-4TB transfer per month and debian 8, all the other requirements are pretty soft. Thanks, Max On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey folks, > > There's gonna be an hour or so of network downtime tonight. I just got an > email from digital ocean saying that we've received too many dmca > complaints and that they're gonna bring down our server until I respond to > the latest one. I'm out of the house for the next hour and I don't know > that I can deal with it until I get back. > > Sorry about this - I'm gonna try to get this fixed asap and avoid this > moving into the future. > > > Thanks, > Max

8 years, 3 months

Exit server outage

by Max B

Hey folks, There's gonna be an hour or so of network downtime tonight. I just got an email from digital ocean saying that we've received too many dmca complaints and that they're gonna bring down our server until I respond to the latest one. I'm out of the house for the next hour and I don't know that I can deal with it until I get back. Sorry about this - I'm gonna try to get this fixed asap and avoid this moving into the future. Thanks, Max

8 years, 3 months

Weave

by Mo Balaa

Has anyone played with Weave? http://docs.weave.works/weave/latest_release/how-it-works.html Could be handy for building distributed dockerized apps across the mesh. Thoughts?

8 years, 4 months

babel-users listserv - issues with babeld and VPuN topology....

by max b

Hey so this is a kind of long back and forth that's taking place on the babel-users list, but for our devs I think it's something we're going to want to keep an eye on: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/babel-users/2015-December/002183.h… The gist of it is that the wlanslovenija project switched to babeld some time ago and is starting to encounter a few issues. One in particular might be w/ regards to their topology (which is similar to ours) in that a central node with an enormous routing table might not be a use case that babeld in its current implementation supports well. It's not clear that there is any single determined cause of the issues with the slovenia network, but this back and forth is somewhat illustrative: The amount of state that a Babel node maintains is proportional to v*r, > where v is the number of neighbours and r the number of routes. Your > network is somewhat unusual in that it has some very central nodes -- 75 > neighbours max, I believe --, which is something that Babel doesn't like > very much. The protocol should be able to deal with that (75 * 500 is > less than 40000), but the implementation will likely need some tuning. > I'm hoping that you can help me do the tuning. > > Or are we now the largest network using it and this is why we are > > getting in all this trouble? > You are the largest Babel network right now. I'm very excited about your > deployment, and I'm looking forward to tuning the babeld implementation to > work well enough for your needs. > > So this is just another academic project which looks good on the paper > > but in practice it is not really production grade? > Most academic projects produce no useful software, just simulation. We > are doing our best to provide production-quality software, and as a matter > of fact babeld is running right now in a production network of 200 nodes. > However, Nexedi's network has been designed with Babel in mind, and it > doesn't have any central nodes -- all nodes have roughly the same number > of neighbours. > > We had to turn of Babel in the network and go back to OLSRv1. > Which is a reasonable thing to do in order to solve your short-term > issues. I hope that you'll remain open to working with me to get babeld > to scale to your needs -- I assure you that it can be done, but I need > profiling data in order to do that. We haven't run into any issues yet, but we have a much smaller network than the slovenian one. We should keep our eyes out for any resolutions of this issue over on the babel-users list and watch for any error messages we might receive from any of our nodes, in particular our exit server. Max

8 years, 4 months

Building Blocks for Kids and Oakland Technology Exchange Technology Fair Sat Nov 21st

by max b

Hey folks, I wanted to let everyone know about this event that will be happening in Richmond this Saturday, Nov 21st. Sudomesh/peoplesopen.net is a co-sponser and will have a table there. I don't have a particularly good idea of what it will look like, but I do have a ton of respect for the work that BBK and OTX do and it'll be a really good opportunity to see what grassroots digital literacy work looks like. The fair will be at: Building Blocks for Kids 312 9th St, Richmond, CA 94801 (a pretty short walk from the BART station) 11/21/2015 10am - 1pm. We were asked to show up at 9am to prepare for tabling, etc. I'll be there to bottom line it, but if other folks want to show up and talk about sudomesh/peoplesopen.net I'd love the company. Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/403105796565832/ Thanks! Max

8 years, 5 months

Sudomesh General Meeting Tomorrow, Tues Oct 27th - We need node hosts!

by max b

Our last Tuesday of the month general meeting is tomorrow, Tuesday October 27th at the Omni! We've been busy alpha testing the network and have been getting some promising results! More info on that process can be found here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Blog#Alpha_Testing_Network We're especially interested in finding a handful of new folks who would want to host nodes. If you're willing to share some of your home bandwidth, generally reliable, and interested in our project, it's a great way to learn about the network while helping us out a lot with very little initial investment! If you're able to email me in advance of the meeting letting me know that you're interested in hosting a home node, that would be especially helpful, but if not that's ok too. We take notes of our meetings (which everyone is encouraged to check out even if you're not in attendance) here: http://pad.sudomesh.org Feel free to add agenda items if there are things you want to bring up/ask/etc. We're also generally on IRC on freenode servers in channel #peoplesopen.net For information on how to join, check out https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh#Join_Us Hope to see you there!

8 years, 6 months

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