16 Jan
2017
16 Jan
'17
8 p.m.
Oh right.. yeah probably got moved down there in advance of the fire
inspection.
If Enoch is back from Cuba, I'll ask if he has any time for hanging it -
Best,
David
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:09 PM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
according to Matt:
"The correct door that fits there is currently in the pile of materials
in the basement."
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+1 for what Kaje said if anyone in the Building WG
wants to start
coordinating this?
Jake, is the door still nearby?
Best,
David
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:53 AM Jake
<jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> i think the entrance to sudo/ccl should have a
door before we bother
> putting a
> > card reader.
> > the door that had been there was removed, because
it swung inwards, which
> is
> > unacceptable for an emergency exit. The door
needs to be re-installed
> with the
> > hinges swinging outward, so that in case an
emergency happens in sudo/ccl
> > people can just flood outward.
> > after the door is installed that way, with a panic
bar (not a regular
> doorknob)
> > we can install a card reader.
> > -jake
> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Maureen Muldavin wrote:
> >> If you are working on RFID cards any
possibility that the entrance to
> >> sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting
access control for
> >> awhile.
> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake
<jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> >>> i brought in a wheelchair motor a while
ago that I think could be made
> into
> >>> a
> >>> power door-opener pretty well.
> >>> I can work on a proof-of-concept for that
and then be able to show you
> what
> >>> I
> >>> mean, and then we can see if it will be
good enough for our needs as
> opposed
> >>> to
> >>> spending $2800 on a "proper"
door opener.
> >>> as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have
been working on implementing the
> card
> >>> reader thing for a little while and I
think I can add it to the front
> door
> >>> pretty relatively easily.., and I guess
i'll do that first, rather than
> >>> trying
> >>> to do a storage closet first?
> >>> as always, if anyone wants to participate
in this process they should
> >>> definitely jump in, otherwise it's
subject to my chaotic schedule.
> >>> technical questions about making this
happen should be sent to the
> access
> >>> list
> >>> and possibly the sudoroom list, but
probably not the building list as
it
> >>> will
> >>> be a major distraction if we get into the
weeds of microcontroller
> boards
> >>> and
> >>> door server code...
> >>> also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff
you ordered and i've been
> working
> >>> on
> >>> it~
> > -jake
> >>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:
> >>>> Hi Jake / access control folks -
> >>>> So now that our front door is publicly
labelled as accessible, we need
> to
> >>>> install an automatic door opener &
remote button (kickplate &
> hand-height
> >>>> or a long bar) to make it legal.
> >>>> Reason I bring this up to you guys is,
the opener system will need to
> >>>> integrate into our existing/future
access control somehow. The quote I
> got
> >>>> is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a
package including the Open
Sesame
> >>>> Model 233 (brochure
> >>>> <
> >>>> spec
> >>>> sheet <
> >>>> made in San Leandro.
> >>>> Also, some of us met last week re:
sketching out Omni's accessibility
> >>>> plan,
> >>>> and Yar suggested this might be a good
time to also implement RFID
> system
> >>>> for the front door, if that was
possible? In part because, proximity
> to an
> >>>> RFID fob is more accessible than a
card swipe which (after thinking
> about
> >>>> it) I realized requires a pincing
motion that is likely not ADA...
> because
> >>>> of the excessive door opening pressure
and iffy slope on the front
> >>>> landing,
> >>>> we need an RFID & auto-opener.
> >>>> So -- I'm not sure if any more
work has been done on the RFID systems
I
> >>>> put
> >>>> in sudo a little while ago (stashed in
under-stair storage area),
> might it
> >>>> be possible to integrate these into
the door opener? I note in the
> >>>> brochure
> >>>> they offer a keypad access option -
perhaps an opportunity for
2-factor
> >>>> authentication like Marc had talked
about? Anyhow what do you guys
> think?
> >>>> I apologize for not helping y'all
more with a better access control
> system
> >>>> (helping spaces post-ghostship
consumed my bandwidth), but as there is
> now
> >>>> renewed pressure I want to help as I
can. Would installing a trial
> >>>> RFID/throw on the Omni Office for
example still be helpful towards
> getting
> >>>> this nailed down? Lmk
> >>>> Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at
this point not just 'cause its
> long
> >>>> overdue, but because every day our
front door is labelled as
accessible
> >>>> when it's technically not, is
actually a not-insignificant liability
> issue
> >>>> (accessibility lawsuit). Plus of
course, we are still under scrutiny
by
> >>>> the
> >>>> city, nimby neighbors trying to call
us out for bogus reasons, etc
etc.
> >>>> And
> >>>> per building code the front door must
be made fully accessible before
> any
> >>>> other accessibility work starts on the
rest of the building - at some
> >>>> point
> >>>> an inspector's gonna notice since
they all go through that
> door..anyhow.
> >>>> Let me know how myself & those of
us working on accessibility might be
> >>>> able
> >>>> to help -
> Best,
> David
>