16 Jan
2017
16 Jan
'17
6:09 p.m.
according to Matt:
"The correct door that fits there is currently in the pile of materials
in the basement."
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:
+1 for what Kaje said if anyone in the Building WG
wants to start
coordinating this?
Jake, is the door still nearby?
Best,
David
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:53 AM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
i think the entrance to sudo/ccl should have a
door before we bother
putting a
card reader.
the door that had been there was removed, because it swung inwards, which
is
unacceptable for an emergency exit. The door needs to be re-installed
with the
hinges swinging outward, so that in case an emergency happens in sudo/ccl
people can just flood outward.
after the door is installed that way, with a panic bar (not a regular
doorknob)
we can install a card reader.
-jake
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Maureen Muldavin wrote:
>
If you are working on RFID cards any possibility
that the entrance to
sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting
access control for
awhile.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake
<jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
> i brought in a wheelchair motor a while ago
that I think could be made
into
> a
> power door-opener pretty well.
> > I can work on a proof-of-concept for that and
then be able to show you
what
> I
> mean, and then we can see if it will be good
enough for our needs as
opposed
> to
> spending $2800 on a "proper" door
opener.
> > as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have been
working on implementing the
card
> reader thing for a little while and I think I
can add it to the front
door
> pretty relatively easily.., and I guess
i'll do that first, rather than
> trying
> to do a storage closet first?
> > as always, if anyone wants to participate in
this process they should
> definitely jump in, otherwise it's
subject to my chaotic schedule.
> > technical questions about making this happen
should be sent to the
access
> list
> and possibly the sudoroom list, but probably
not the building list as it
> will
> be a major distraction if we get into the
weeds of microcontroller
boards
> and
> door server code...
> > also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff you
ordered and i've been
working
> on
> it~
> > -jake
> > On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:
> >> Hi Jake / access control folks -
>> >> So now that our front door is publicly
labelled as accessible, we need
to
>> install an automatic door opener &
remote button (kickplate &
hand-height
>> or a long bar) to make it legal.
>> >> Reason I bring this up to you guys is,
the opener system will need to
>> integrate into our existing/future access
control somehow. The quote I
got
>> is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a
package including the Open Sesame
>> Model 233 (brochure
>> <
http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/open_sesame_brochure.pdf>gt;,
>> spec
>> sheet <
http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/specs_model233.pdf>)t;),
>> >> made in San Leandro.
>> >> Also, some of us met last week re:
sketching out Omni's accessibility
>> plan,
>> and Yar suggested this might be a good
time to also implement RFID
system
>> for the front door, if that was possible?
In part because, proximity
to an
>> RFID fob is more accessible than a card
swipe which (after thinking
about
>> it) I realized requires a pincing motion
that is likely not ADA...
because
>> of the excessive door opening pressure
and iffy slope on the front
>> landing,
>> we need an RFID & auto-opener.
>> >> So -- I'm not sure if any more work
has been done on the RFID systems I
>> put
>> in sudo a little while ago (stashed in
under-stair storage area),
might it
>> be possible to integrate these into the
door opener? I note in the
>> brochure
>> they offer a keypad access option -
perhaps an opportunity for 2-factor
>> authentication like Marc had talked
about? Anyhow what do you guys
think?
>> >> I apologize for not helping y'all
more with a better access control
system
>> (helping spaces post-ghostship consumed
my bandwidth), but as there is
now
>> renewed pressure I want to help as I can.
Would installing a trial
>> RFID/throw on the Omni Office for example
still be helpful towards
getting
>> this nailed down? Lmk
>> >> Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at
this point not just 'cause its
long
>> overdue, but because every day our front
door is labelled as accessible
>> when it's technically not, is
actually a not-insignificant liability
issue
>> (accessibility lawsuit). Plus of course,
we are still under scrutiny by
>> the
>> city, nimby neighbors trying to call us
out for bogus reasons, etc etc.
>> And
>> per building code the front door must be
made fully accessible before
any
>> other accessibility work starts on the
rest of the building - at some
>> point
>> an inspector's gonna notice since
they all go through that
door..anyhow.
>> >> Let me know how myself & those of us
working on accessibility might be
>> able
>> to help -
>> >> Best,
>> David
>>