Omni-delegates September 2015

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Re: [Omni-delegates] [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by yar

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > that's a good question. So far the offer to have LM do their thing without > a 1-year commitment has not generated a response that I know of. Have they > changed their mind or are you attempting to broker this on your own? > > Personally I think that we could offer them a month of Sundays to see what > they're like. Perhaps you can find out if they're interested in that. >From the 8/27 notes: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/08/27_Delegates_Meeting -- yar: would you feel comfortable with a 3 or 6 month trial period? cheryl: i'd have to go back to my group. having to move after 3 months would be disruptive. if we build we build, if we grow together we want to grow together. -- >From Stephen Novotny's most recent email: https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2015-September/000638.html "They feel that it’s essential for them to have a space to begin their work and so they must begin investing their time elsewhere if the Omni cannot come to at least a preliminary consensus to move forward with their request for space on Sunday mornings and Friday evenings." I think "preliminary consensus" means yes, a shorter trial period would be better than nothing. It would keep them at the table long enough to continue building a relationship, and if they reject this offer because it's not a full year, at least we come out looking reasonable. Even if LM doesn't end up accepting a shorter period, I think the symbolic weight of the Omni community consenting to this shorter period would go a long way in mending our community fractures and keep our community from falling apart. I also think 2 or 3 months would look a lot better than 1 month, which is only four services. Would you block 2 months?

8 years, 7 months

Re: [Omni-delegates] [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by yar

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:04 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I also think 2 or 3 months would look a lot better than 1 month, which > is only four services. Would you block 2 months? It occurs to me that 3 months would be October 1 - January 1. It would kind of suck to leave a church in limbo right around Christmas and New Years. Maybe the end of January makes more sense. But that's 4 months.

8 years, 7 months

Re: [Omni-delegates] [sudo-discuss] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by yar

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Any sudoers willing to take this on for Thursday? We can simply write a > statement of position at Wednesday's meeting that you can read during the > delegates meeting. After much thought, I think the best framing question for now is: what length of trial period can we tolerate? I would like to hear from all Sudoroom members currently blocking this proposal. Would you also block a 3 month proposal? 1 month? 1 week? What's the magic number? Thank you.

8 years, 7 months

Liberation Ministries Proposal to Omni Commons -- Matt recuses himself, seeks another delegate

by Matthew Senate

tl;dr, *I need to recuse myself as sudo room delegate from the Liberation Ministries proposal (details below):* Hey all, I've cc'd Sudo Room's Omni-Delegates list (our email list for people who have been consented upon to act on behalf of Sudo Room as a delegate in the Omni Commons delegates council). I do not think I am capable of getting through the emotionally-charged issues necessary to act on behalf of the sudo room when it comes to the discussion of Liberation Ministries collaborating with the Omni Commons. While I am still willing and able to act as sudo room's delegate for other proposals and at other times, I need to recuse myself from this proposal in particular. I will attend the next sudo room meeting on Weds 9/16 as well as the next Omni Commons delegates meeting on Thurs 9/17, but will not be representing the sudo room when it comes to the Liberation Ministries proposal. *If sudo room members find it important to participate in this part of the process, then another member of sudo room who is approved to act as an Omni Commons delegates needs to represent the sudo room instead.* You can read the most recent version of this proposal submitted to the omni-consensus email list today (Thurs) around 5pm. It should be reviewed this week and formally discussed during the next (coming) Thurs 9/17 @ 7pm. // Matt p.s. "Active non-Member" is a bit confusing language, but essentially this not a proposal to become a Member-Collective, but instead a different kind of formal commitment, backed by some form of legal document(s) [such as rental contract(s), tenant (non-member-collective) sublease, etc]. The text of the current proposal follows: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stephen Novotny <novotny.stephen(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:07 PM Subject: [omni-consensus] Liberation Ministries Proposal to Join Omni as an Active non-Member To: consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org This proposal is being sent out so that it can be discussed for consensus at next week's delegates meeting. Please take it back to your collectives and discuss so we can move forward. --- After conversations following the August 27th Delegates Meeting, we’ve collaborated with Liberation Ministries (LM) to develop a proposal for them to join the Omni as an active non-member. We’ve integrated feedback from the 8/27 Delegates Meeting, where people expressed concern about LM becoming a member collective immediately. Please read the notes from that discussion here: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2015/08/27_Delegates_Meeting Many people suggested that LM begin doing work at the Omni in order for us to get to know each other and to see how their work flourishes here, before applying to become a member collective. The most essential needs of LM are to have reliable access to the space for consultations and office work, as well as ongoing reservation of space two times a week: one on Friday nights to work with youth, including collaborations with BAPS and MPM, and two, use of the Ballroom on Sunday mornings from 9-11am. These are the basic needs of LM, essential to the continuity and growth of their organization. At the 8/27 delegates meeting there was some concern over the reservation of the Ballroom on Sunday mornings for LM, with some people concerned that it might prevent other, important groups from using the Ballroom during this time. We followed up regarding this concern with the Commons WG and learned that Sunday morning during the time from 9-11ish (am) when Liberation Ministries would have service has seen only six events since last November 2014 when the Omni Global calendar started being used. Two of these were all day events--Capoeira and a "Fundraiser for Legal Fees". Of the other four, three were short two-hour rehearsals and one was something called "Love Chapel" Three of the six events started at 11am. There were a few more events that were in the Ballroom starting at noon on Sundays. Considering the Ballroom does not have any other regularly scheduled events, it is a great opportunity to put the ballroom space in use more regularly and provide a regular source of income from the usage. While this would prevent a few miscellaneous events a year from using this space at said time, the space would never go unused as long as LM operates within the Omni. Furthermore, because LM is a community-based church, they need space within the community to begin inviting people on a regular basis. They plan to go door-to-door to let neighbors all over North Oakland know about their new ministry, so they must have a reliable space to invite these new people to occupy. Welcomes our neighbors in the surrounding area of Temescal and North Oakland Very much in line with our founding vision and Statement of Solidarity to support low- to middle-income black families Working with youth Tangible anti-gentrification work They have offered to help with specific elements of building maintenance and upgrades LM would like to use their original proposal to become a member collective as their proposal to instead become an active non-member group within the Omni. The proposal is pasted below: Liberation Ministries is a new church led by Pastor Cheryl Ward. We are seeking a space to have our Sunday services and where we can participate in a community working for social justice. 1. Mission statement We endeavor to be change agents in our local community and globally, and turn whatever space we are in into a change agency. Our commitment is to transforming lives. We do ministry but it's not a ministry unless we are transforming lives. We are not a traditional church. We welcome EVERYBODY. The core of it is love. Our goal is to be loving and non-judgmental. We have trans, same sex loving, black, white, asian, Latino, Native American members etc. 2. Origin and group history Cheryl has 36 years in ministry, community organizing, and activism, and has pastored 3 churches. This is a brand new congregation in formation, looking for a place to hold Sunday worship services and committing ourselves to social justice activism in the city. There is a board of directors of five members, who operate under a shared governance policy. As a general rule, Cheryl and at least one of the board representatives will meet regarding building issues. 3. Participation in the Omni We see the richness of the collective and the opportunity to really transform this neighborhood, as well as to bring the community into the things that are going on here. How does your group intend to use the space? What are your needs? 9-12 on Sundays for services (in the ballroom); an office space if available (potentially the room next to Phat Beets; some private space for counseling sessions (same room); use of a space every Friday nite for a hangout for teens (any available space in Omni. We are willing to be flexible about sharing the available spaces with others. Offering big flat screen TV abt 46" and a floor model big screen t.v. for shared use and use with teens for movies, videogames etc. Just brought a Hammond B3 Organ to the Omni for shared use. Working on obtaining other musical instruments. Brought 6 additional pews to the Omni. We will actively conduct a door-to-door campaign to meet neighbors and inform them of our presence and find out the needs of the community. 4. Group finances and paying rent What does your group do to support itself financially? Write grants, Sunday offerings, and contributions from supporters What is your best plan for contributing your potential share of rent to the Omni? Rent $250 - $300 a month to start but we can negotiate an increase once revenue generation of the above begins. 5. Dedicated space Office desk and filing cabinet. 6. Other contributions to the Omni Help with cosmetic maintenance like painting. We can use our relationship with the Conservation Corps to invite them to come in to help on building work. Help make vending machines now in CCL happen with snacks for the teens who come to our Friday night event Work with MPM and BAPS. Cheryl has a collaboration with Peralta Colleges and would seek to have a printing press class. Printing of items and books could serve as a source of revenue generation. Young people could could learn and get credi. Talk to paint store (Frazee) about using their parking lot on Sundays or other times. 7. Additional We would be here to be a contributor, not to subtract anything from the Omni. If we're not contributing we don't need to exist. _______________________________________________ consensus mailing list consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus

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