9 Jun
2019
9 Jun
'19
8:54 p.m.
The gateway has been replaced with a desktop computer sitting on its
side in the rack on top of the multi-hd storage server. Note that this
is super janky since the two PCI network cards can't be mounted
properly in the somewhat-smaller-than-standard case.
We added two network cards and were planning to use the built-in card
as well, but currently the built-in card is not used and the private
network is down. There are two reasons:
* The switch used for the private network had one of its fans die and
I turned it off until we can replace the fan so it won't overheat
* The built-in network card appears to need firmware which I'm not
going to bother with until the fan on the private network switch is
replaced
Also, we might get a new server rather than using this old desktop machine.
The new computer is using the old harddrive. I changed the following
files due to the different names of the network interfaces:
/etc/network/interfaces
/etc/default/isc-dhcp-server
/etc/iptables/rules.v4
/etc/iptables/rules.v6
You can find backups of the files from before my changes at the same
paths with .old added (for the parent dir for /etc/iptables)
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marc/juul
9 Jun
9 Jun
10:47 p.m.
For the switch with the broken fan Ian hacked a replacement which is
strapped to the outside of the case.
I ordered some higher-quality (ball-bearring) replacements.
They are Delta FFB0412SHN-BF00 and I got three for $8 shipped so we
can swap out others as they fail.
For future reference if you need to order more they are pretty
expensive from digi-key, but if you just search for FFB0412SHN on ebay
and look for a three-pin model you will probably be good, though
there's a chance you'll end up getting one where the third pin is a
"locked rotor sensor" rather than a tachometer but those are pretty
non-standard so it's unlikely.
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marc/juul
On 6/9/19, Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
The gateway has been replaced with a desktop computer
sitting on its
side in the rack on top of the multi-hd storage server. Note that this
is super janky since the two PCI network cards can't be mounted
properly in the somewhat-smaller-than-standard case.
We added two network cards and were planning to use the built-in card
as well, but currently the built-in card is not used and the private
network is down. There are two reasons:
* The switch used for the private network had one of its fans die and
I turned it off until we can replace the fan so it won't overheat
* The built-in network card appears to need firmware which I'm not
going to bother with until the fan on the private network switch is
replaced
Also, we might get a new server rather than using this old desktop machine.
The new computer is using the old harddrive. I changed the following
files due to the different names of the network interfaces:
/etc/network/interfaces
/etc/default/isc-dhcp-server
/etc/iptables/rules.v4
/etc/iptables/rules.v6
You can find backups of the files from before my changes at the same
paths with .old added (for the parent dir for /etc/iptables)
--
marc/juul
10 Jun
10 Jun
6:04 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
I just plugged the switch back in to get space.local and others back
online. Heatwave's over in a few hours, I think it'll be fine.
I would like new low-power hardware to replace saros, and also to
replace space.local, which is overprovisioned and running Ubuntu 14.04
(EOL).
11 Jun
11 Jun
2:11 a.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
I like low power but I feel like we need something that can handle a
wireguard tunnel at 1 Gbps since we'll be upgrading and we should
really be piping everything through a non-logging VPN.
I don't think those two requirements are mutually exclusive nowadays.
What about this board?
https://www.newegg.com/jetway-jnf9hg-2930-mini-itx/p/N82E16813153300
It might fit in the old case. If not we can get another mini-itx case for it.
Or here's a very similar unit including case and power supply, which
is probably the less janky choice:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MITXPC-5-x-Intel-LAN-Front-I-O-Mini-1U-Rackmount-C…
I looked at a bunch of single board computers with 3+ gigabit ethernet
but none of them seem like good choices.
On 6/10/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just plugged the switch back in to get space.local
and others back
online. Heatwave's over in a few hours, I think it'll be fine.
I would like new low-power hardware to replace saros, and also to
replace space.local, which is overprovisioned and running Ubuntu 14.04
(EOL).
1:32 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Agreed that board + case + psu combo is better, unless somebody here
feels like spending a whole day putting everything together and
troubleshooting. Looks like neither option includes ram, which adds
~$50.
I would like to see actual benchmarks on the how much watts/hz a
gigabit wireguard connection would actually need.
We should also talk about the pros/cons of an external VPN. Omni's IP
address already gets enough users to add some safety in numbers. It
also has a better reputation than many VPN IPs, which leads to better
browsing in my experience. I rarely have to fill out captchas from
Omni.
9:49 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Alex pointed out that this slightly better motherboard (same vendor)
has AES acceleration and six ethernet port
https://mitxpc.com/products/jnf692g6-420
I should be able to get the same case for it. I sent them an email
verifying that I'm about to order the right case and we won't need any
other adapters.
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marc/juul
12 Jun
12 Jun
2:13 a.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:49 PM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
Alex pointed out that this slightly better motherboard
(same vendor)
has AES acceleration and six ethernet port
https://mitxpc.com/products/jnf692g6-420
Nice find!
Do we also want to find a replacement for space.local or do you think
we can salvage something for that? Only needs one ethernet port.
2:55 a.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Maybe for that one we could go for a beefy ARM system? I really wanted
to get away from x86 but it just didn't seem feasible for the gateway.
On 6/12/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:49 PM Marc Juul
<marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
Alex pointed out that this slightly better
motherboard (same vendor)
has AES acceleration and six ethernet port
https://mitxpc.com/products/jnf692g6-420
Nice find!
Do we also want to find a replacement for space.local or do you think
we can salvage something for that? Only needs one ethernet port.
12:30 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Fine with me. Do we have anything like that already?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:55 AM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
Maybe for that one we could go for a beefy ARM system? I really wanted
to get away from x86 but it just didn't seem feasible for the gateway.
On 6/12/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:49 PM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
>> Alex pointed out that this slightly better motherboard (same vendor)
>> has AES acceleration and six ethernet port
>> https://mitxpc.com/products/jnf692g6-420
>
> Nice find!
>
> Do we also want to find a replacement for space.local or do you think
> we can salvage something for that? Only needs one ethernet port.
>
12:41 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Not that I know of but then I only know a small fraction of what
exists in sudo room.
On 6/12/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Fine with me. Do we have anything like that already?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:55 AM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
Maybe for that one we could go for a beefy ARM system? I really wanted
to get away from x86 but it just didn't seem feasible for the gateway.
On 6/12/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:49 PM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
>> Alex pointed out that this slightly better motherboard (same vendor)
>> has AES acceleration and six ethernet port
>> https://mitxpc.com/products/jnf692g6-420
>
> Nice find!
>
> Do we also want to find a replacement for space.local or do you think
> we can salvage something for that? Only needs one ethernet port.
>
20 Jun
20 Jun
4:38 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
A couple of updates:
They don't have a rack-mount case for the nice low-power board with
AES acceleration. They have this case instead:
https://mitxpc.com/products/nml-nf692
Price with 8 GB ram: $476
It's a fanless case though :/ but I guess we can configure
auto-shutdown if it gets too hot?
Another company sells the same thing in a rackmount case with 3 fan
mounting spots:
https://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=115
That would cost $610 including shipping.
--
marc/juul
On 6/12/19, Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
Not that I know of but then I only know a small
fraction of what
exists in sudo room.
On 6/12/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Fine with me. Do we have anything like that
already?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 2:55 AM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
Maybe for that one we could go for a beefy ARM system? I really wanted
to get away from x86 but it just didn't seem feasible for the gateway.
On 6/12/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 9:49 PM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
>> Alex pointed out that this slightly better motherboard (same vendor)
>> has AES acceleration and six ethernet port
>> https://mitxpc.com/products/jnf692g6-420
>
> Nice find!
>
> Do we also want to find a replacement for space.local or do you think
> we can salvage something for that? Only needs one ethernet port.
>
27 Jun
27 Jun
12:38 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:38 PM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
https://mitxpc.com/products/nml-nf692
Price with 8 GB ram: $476
It's a fanless case though :/ but I guess we can configure
auto-shutdown if it gets too hot?
It says Fan Support: Supports 2 x 40x40x10mm
I'm gonna reach out to omni's finance wg about feasibility of paying
for this along with sonic fiber.
6 Jul
6 Jul
12:40 a.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
I found a cheaper alternative. I recently got one of the older systems
from PC Engines and I've been really happy with it. I looked at their
newer stuff and they have this:
https://www.pcengines.ch/apu4c4.htm
Which has AES-NI and four LAN ports.
Assembled and with an aluminum case it comes to $145 + shipping.
It works by having the CPU on the bottom of the mainboard and directly
connecting it to the aluminum case which acts as a heat spreader. I
tested mine with a high-powered wifi card and mSATA drive attached,
maxing out CPU, IO and wifi transmit, and it didn't go above 79 C at
25 C ambient. Both my CPU and this CPU can take 90 C. Since we're not
adding a WiFi card we can probably expect better performance. I'd
assume we won't hit 90 C until ambient temperatures get close to ~40 C
and then only if maxing out the CPU.
I've written a script that shuts down the computer at a set
temperature. Because the case itself is the heatsink, we can simply
strap any additional CPU heat-sink + fan to the bottom (or top) of the
case and add as much cooling as we want.
Or we could just have the script send us an email and shut it down at
87 C and hope we'll never hit those temperatures.
btw, this board has the bonus of running coreboot + SeaBIOS.
On 6/27/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:38 PM Marc Juul
<marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
https://mitxpc.com/products/nml-nf692
Price with 8 GB ram: $476
It's a fanless case though :/ but I guess we can configure
auto-shutdown if it gets too hot?
It says Fan Support: Supports 2 x 40x40x10mm
I'm gonna reach out to omni's finance wg about feasibility of paying
for this along with sonic fiber.
10:50 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:40 AM Marc Juul <marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
I'm sold. That's cheap enough that I'd buy one right now as soon as I
figure out how their website even works. How'd you calculate the price
for preassembly?
7 Jul
7 Jul
8:13 a.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Nice work!!
We can put it on Omni's card - this is essential infrastructure.
<3
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019, 22:51 Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:40 AM Marc Juul
<marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
I'm sold. That's cheap enough that I'd buy one right now as soon as I
figure out how their website even works. How'd you calculate the price
for preassembly?
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3:55 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
On 7/6/19, Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:40 AM Marc Juul
<marc(a)juul.io> wrote:
I'm sold. That's cheap enough that I'd buy one right now as soon as I
figure out how their website even works. How'd you calculate the price
for preassembly?
Click Shop -> USD prices.
On the APU tab, find "apu4c4" and change the 0 to 1.
A bit further down set "case1d4redu" to 1 (or whichever color you prefer).
At the bottom of the same tab, find "assy" and set to 1.
Go to "misc" tab and set "satacab1" to 1.
It would also be a good idea to order "brk1d" from the "misc" page.
Now go to the "cart" tab and complete the order.
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marc/juul
13 Jul
13 Jul
5:09 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
As long as we're asking Omni for money maybe we should throw in a
bigger UPS with more than 3 minutes of backup power. The one we have
now is something I found at a thrift store for $7 (minus battery) and
it was making an awful whistling noise today.
5:43 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
+1, if someone else researches it and fills out this form, I'll make the
purchase: https://omnicommons.org/budgetrequest
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 5:10 PM Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
As long as we're asking Omni for money maybe we
should throw in a
bigger UPS with more than 3 minutes of backup power. The one we have
now is something I found at a thrift store for $7 (minus battery) and
it was making an awful whistling noise today.
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3 Jul
3 Jul
3:56 p.m.
New subject: [omni-sys] Gateway dead, Private network down
Whatever happened with this thread? Did we just forget to follow
through, or did we have a good reason to drop the ball?
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